2nd Half Sleepers + TNF Preview, Doubling Down - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/27

And so this was a player that I kind of threw in here yesterday. And then I went back to the drawing board and I go, well, maybe I'll go Elijah Mitchell for a second half sleeper. Or maybe I'll look at Will Fuller and think a trade's going to. And then I came back to Julio when I saw the schedule. And I came back to Julio because of my eyeballs telling me that, you know, on the plays he's made, he's looked like the same guy. So I think that Tanner Hills, it's not the same as a rookie, but your trust in a player on certain plays increases with your duration. They've had no time together.

because of the injury. So I think Julio at wide receiver 67 is not where he's going to end up, and he might be worth a shot. No, I like that a lot. You know, I think Ryan Tanohole has a good stretch ahead of him. Julio, I agree with you completely on the eyeball test.

It's funny because he has been completely outclassed from A.J. Green, a lot of comparisons based on age and caliber and Hall of Fame status. But the eyeball test has been good with Julio. And the longer that he gets removed from the hamstring injury, the better, the more snaps that he'll be able to play and get out there. I don't have any problems with that. Do you have anything disagreeing? No, I like taking the chance. I mean, these are...

These aren't called second half. I guarantee that these players are going to hit. These are players that are discounted currently because of what has happened over the course of the first half of the season. All right. Well, let's talk about a real sleeper, someone that plenty of people will disagree with. Maybe both of you will disagree. Maybe I disagree with it. I just traded for him in the listener league, remember? I did not remember that. It's Henry Ruggs.

Henry Ruggs, second year wide receiver for the Las Vegas Raiders, I think has a chance to really have a special second half of the year. Now, Waller is currently her, and they're on by right now. So Ruggs is probably on your waivers. If he's not on your waivers, you can get him for nothing. Here's the reality is like, so Darren Waller dealt with the ankle, missed this last game, and this is probably good news for Waller that it's coming up on his buy week. But here's what's,

The reality is like they lost John Gruden. They have a somewhat new identity, a new coach, and while they have their by week to kind of figure out who they are and how they are going to be going forward, Darren Waller's not there. So they're getting the opportunity to really involve these wide receivers more into the game plan because obviously beginning of the season, it was all Waller. And when I look around the league and we look at the greatest tight ends,

And you look at Travis Kelsey and you got the Speedster and Tyree Kill and it's the one two punch. And you look at Mark Andrews and you got the Speedster Hollywood. It's been the one two punch. And you kind of have that formula. Here you have Darren Waller and you've got the Speedster and Henry Ruggs, who's only a second year wide receiver, has looked pretty good this year. He has the fifth highest average depth of target, 17.2 among wide receivers, the sixth most deep targets. And honestly, Derek Carr's been playing great.

When you combine all of that and you look at the fact they have the third best schedule for wide receivers from weeks 10 through 17, I think he is a sleeper that has a shot to become more relevant and have a lot of big game-breaking plays that help you for fantasy. So if you're...

in a league where you're just, you're looking at the waiver wire and you're wanting to take a shot as someone that could be special as opposed to a Jameson Crowder that could come in and get you a few points. I think Ruggs is where I would look. Derek Hart's been playing outstanding football. I have no problem with the sleeper pick of Rugs. I mean, his draft capital combined with, you know, talent opportunity.

This team probably being in the mix for the remainder of the year. Thus far, I mean, he's needed to give you that big play. But when you think of players in the NFL right now, you know, I'm going to throw my lot in with Henry Ruggs over McCull-Hardman, you know, every single week. So I don't mind it. I like it. Yeah. I mean, he's the second best wide to see around the team, but that's fine. Yeah. Oh, man. Brian Edwards. He's going to. Forever, Brian. All right.

We're going to close out this segment with my second half sleeper. And granted, this is a player in-draft season I was concerned about. I wasn't fully in on. But Washington, the Washington football team, Logan Thomas is injured. He might be on your waiver wire. And he could be incredibly cheap to trade for.

right now. And here is the scenario for him. After the bye week, hopefully he's good to go. We have a quote from Rivera just a day ago saying Logan Thomas should be back sooner than later. So this isn't like a more concerned. And their by week is next week. Correct. They play this week. He's not going to be there than a buy week. That is correct. So sooner than later in fantasy football terms, Logan Thomas will be back. And I mean, he was.

He's on the field a ton. Ricky Seals Jones is filling in admirably for Logan Thomas. But I think once Logan's back, the role goes to him. The schedule is so favorable for the tight end position for Washington. Eight of the remaining 10 matchups are plus matchups for him after the by week. And then the playoffs, Philadelphia, Dallas, Philadelphia.

Logan Thomas in his three games played. I'm not counting the injury game, but so he's played in three games. He was top 12 and two of those three games. So if you, again, like Trey Lance, where I'm looking to shore up my quarterback position and I feel like I can't go get Mahomes, Kyle, I can't get the superstars. At tight end, I can't get Waller, I can't get Kelsey, I can't get Mark Andrews, and these guys. Logan Thomas could turn into one of these waiver wire streaming guys that while he's not.

I'm not saying Logan Thomas is going to burn it down for you and be a league winning tight end, but I'm saying he could shore up your position and be someone that you just put in there every single week and you're good to go. This is my favorite of our second picks. I think this makes so much sense. They just signed him to a three-year, $24 million deal. Yes, he's their guy. He's the dude. Ricky Seals Jones is the backup who, Ricky Seals Jones is the proof.

that Logan Thomas is going to be good because they're using him nonstop. And Logan Thomas was, I mean, and it's perfect for this injury. He's got a hamstring injury. They place him on the IR. He gets three weeks. But because of where the by week is, if he misses the fourth, which he's going to miss this week, he gets a fifth. And so he should be coming back healthy with plus matchups and being necessary to the team. I really like this for a tight and needy team.

If you're streaming the tight-in position, you do need to shore it up before the end of the year. You can't be, like Brooks just did this in our dynasty. He traded a couple of later draft picks, and he picked up Dalton Schultz. His team had to hurt George Kittle and not much else. And so he's preparing for a playoff run. He wants somebody he can put in the lineup every week. And I think Logan Thomas does represent that. Thursday Night Breakdown.

The Green Bay Packers, six and one, six straight wins, taking on the Arizona Cardinals in Arizona. They also have six straight wins. And seven. Oh, yeah. The Draft King Sportsbook line Cardinals minus six and a half. The over and under is 50 and a half. And look, we're in a dome, so we won't be rained on again in prime time. The Cardinals have a 28.5 point implied point total. Packers are at 22 right now.

For those of you out there bet in the game, the Packers have covered the spread in six straight. But it's going to be interesting because the Cardinals have covered in six of seven. So something's got to give there. Kyla Murray and company, they have been rolling. It has been an offense predicated on spreading the ball around, whether it's Hopkins, Green, Kirk, Moore. I mean, look, we haven't talked about Randall Moore in a couple weeks because it's been somebody else's story.

And that might not even be the player that hurts you. No, it could be hurts. Thank you. Very nice. Yeah, I mean, I think Zach, let me, who wouldn't you start on Arizona? Are you starting both running backs against Green Bay? I would, I would be hesitant to start James Connor in this game. Last game, you saw the kind of leadback role, go more to Chase Edmonds and.

I think that this is, I still believe that Aaron Rogers gets it done. Like that's, I, I'm not going to bet against Aaron Rogers in prime time against a good team. What does it done mean? Gets it done means scores enough to where the game has to stay competitive and you're not in a situation where the Cardinals are trying to protect a three possession lead, you know, the way that they've seen in some of these recent games against Cleveland against the Texans. So.

they're going to need to continue to put pressure on and score more points, they being the Arizona Cardinals. And that means Chase Edmonds catching the ball out of the backfield, being efficient against a Green Bay Packers defense that over the last two years has not been great against the run. Yeah, it'll be a tall task for Rogers in this one. Chandler Jones returns after a two-game absence to add to the pass rush. Same with Zach Allen who's been a part of the pass rush.

with JJ Watt and Marcus Golden. You're going, if he gets it done, he's going to have to get it done with other players. I mean, he's not going to run his way to victory. So it's going to be Aaron Jones. Yeah, we know he's in your lineup. But you're going to have to decide if you want to take a shot on Robert Tunyon this week as a streaming tight end option after a good week last week. The most slot snaps of the season, four for 63 and one. Look, I'll play him over.

chasing Uzama's points against the Jets, I will. I'll play him over Conklin. I'll play him over, I think it gets tougher with Ricky Seals Jones. I'd play Ricky. Yeah, Yuzama is interesting to me, but I would agree. Robert Tongian is necessary in this matchup. Again, it is a terrible matchup for him. He's been bad, and it's such a bad match. The Cardinals have not let anything have. The Cardinals are averaging.

giving up 3.9 fantasy points per game to all tight ends on the opposing team. So it's like I keep wanting to smash Tunyon in, you know, like the draft king's showdown or look at him and, you know, certain waiver wires. I've seen him and I'm like, I just have a hard time. Because five of seven games, Robert Tunyon has 10 or fewer receiving yards. Five of seven.

If this game was, because this is a tough thing to do every year when you see defenses change, right? Like Washington's defense and the historically great Patriots defense. If this is Green Bay without Adams and Lazard up in Foxborough and the Patriots defense was ranked number one in the league, are you looking at it the exact same way you're looking at this game? The Cardinals defense is number one in the league. They're at home on prime time. They have all of their defensive players back in the fold and healthy.

Do we, is the hometown bias actually working against us here where we still are waiting for the shoe to drop in Arizona to be a disaster? I think they're for real and I'm trying to pivot away from. All packer options? I mean, not Aaron Jones and maybe, maybe Rogers, but I think I'm with Jason that I would probably just.

Put him in and take that risk. But Robert Tunyon is, he's out for me. So I just looked this up because obviously Robert Tunyon had a great year last year. And we talked, I brought up the stat of Rogers had better games without Aaron Rogers. Or without Devante Adams last year. In the two games that they did not have Devante Adams, Robert Tunyon was a monster. He.

you know, had he averaged two touchdowns in those two games. Sure. Four touchdowns across those two opportunities, 25 fantasy points a game. So he did, we have seen him become a little bit more of a go-to, five and a half receptions per game in those two. So it's really just a matter of, yeah, what do you believe? I think you outlaid it really well, Andy, like you at home have to decide, do you think the Cardinals are.

fully, fully legit and great. And they are just going to continue locking people down because they have so far. And now there's bad vibes and missing players for the Packers. You know, the Browns look like they were great. Right. And then they had a couple of injuries and then they got smashed by the Cardinals. What was that? Smashed. I like that. But I think you're 100% right. I have a hard time not waiting for the Arizona Cardinals to suck here. Yeah. Because of our personal experience of