2nd Half Sleepers + TNF Preview, Doubling Down - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/27

that he will be activated according to PFF's Doug K, we'll say. The hard part for me with NBS is not that he's probably the highest upside of those players, is that he cannot come in in any way, shape, or form and do anything that Devante Adams does in terms of volume. We've seen this team where MVS is the natural start in the past when Adams has missed games, and he has delivered zero times.

So my concern is that you know Rogers is not going to look to NBS for volume, and I'm curious where the volume's going to go. If he passes the ball 44 times against the Cardinals, how many of those are going to MVS? Seven, six? Where's the rest of them going? Aaron Jones. Yeah. Yeah. And people, you know, coming into the week, people were very concerned about Aaron Jones. Hugely disappointing week last week, where he was inefficient and not involved.

You know, you're playing Aaron Jones, so there's no question marks there. But Mike, do you agree? Where's your dart throw in this game? Thursday night football. I mean, the dart throw to me would be probably Randall Cobb. I mean, I guess we're not fully in the Thursday night breakdown, but the question that's coming to my mind is, do you pivot away from Aaron Rogers?

Like, that sounds like a blasphemous thing to say. Yes. But he's missing, he's missing his top two options in the passing game. And he's playing against a really strong defense and he's on the road. Like, this is a really tough situation for fantasy. Yes, if you could play Kirk Cousins this week.

I'd play Kurt Cousins over Aaron Rogers. Yeah, obviously it's going to depend on who your pivot option is. I will remind people, I know it seems outlandish and crazy, but in the seven games that he is, that Aaron Rogers has played without Devante Adams. He's actually scored more fantasy points than in the last 48 he's played with him. But in those games, did he also lose the number two wide receiver on the map chart? Fair. If you want to know what opposing quarterbacks have done against Arizona.

Taney Hill scored 15.2. Cousins scored 25. Lawrence was 9.5. Stafford was 20. You know. How did Davis Mills do? 3.4. Woof. So it's an option. I mean, you probably aren't going to want to do it. You're going to want to watch Thursday Night Football and just see Aaron Rogers find a way. But it's just hard to imagine on prime time that Aaron Rogers doesn't get it done in some way. I know that's not.

analytical, but it, like, I would just be surprised watching a primetime game and being like, oh, man, Aaron Rogers sucked on primetime. Is that game still a six point line? Six and a half now. Oh, six and a half. Interesting. Yeah, you'd expect the Cardinals to be up, so Roger should have to throw the football. But we can, we're supposed to preview that game later. I'm just falling out of order here. The Houston Chronicle reported that the Dolphins and Texans have agreed to terms on a trade for Deshaun Watson. But.

But the Dolphins would like clarity on his legal issues before going through with it. Which they can't get. I mean, that's impossible. There's no way you can have full clarity, right? You could have clarity where you can make up the shapes. You know, enough of it. Certainly, if you're dealing with Watson and his lawyers and the NFL, you could recognize what's going to happen probably before the November 2nd deadline. I don't think, maybe for this year.

But I don't think long term, I mean, until the case and all the accusations, until everything plays out, you have, you don't know. You can't ask his lawyer and say, hey, are you going to settle these? And they say, yeah, we're going to settle them. That's not clarity. But what about the criminal cases? He can't, you know. Yeah, you cannot settle those. And then it, even if he, which Watson has said he's, he will not settle. At least that's what's been leaked out there. If he, let's say that changes and he does.

Then what does the NFL do? Do they do nothing? Or does he get, because I don't believe it will be a zero game suspension for him at that point? Well, the league has come out and basically says nothing. I mean, Roger Goodell has come out and basically, the league seems like it's transformed the way it's handling these in the last couple of years, which I'm not saying is a good thing. But between the Washington football scandal and their seemingly protection of Dan Snyder and in this situation where.

You know, you've... Their hand hasn't been forced yet with this situation. Yeah, I feel like they came out and said enough to know that he's not going to go on the commissioner's exempt list if he's traded right now, not until new information comes to light. Because they basically said as of now, they don't have enough information to put him on there. He's only waived his no trade clause for Miami as of right now. So that fits with the trade. You know, I don't know what you do at this point. November 2nd is the deadline. So...

If they can't get the clarity they want, then this is going to be an all-season discussion, and we can stop talking about it. The Antonio Brown situation is not looking great. No. Isn't practicing again on Wednesday was, quote, leaning on a crutch. I mean, that doesn't sound good. No. I've never seen a player play. Well, like, but one? Was he like a tiny Timmy from a Christmas carol? That's exactly what it was. It was a wooden crutch as well. Antimio.

Yeah. No, yeah, you don't usually see a player play with a crutch. So I would imagine if he's got to use one right now, probably not going to play this week. If anyone could do it, though, it would probably be Antonio Brown. Rob Gronkowski return to practice Wednesday. Might be a limited return, not sure about the final there yet. Okay, okay. You want to cover the Giants news, Mike? Sure. Let's see. We got, right now we're hearing there's less than 50% chance that.

uh, Barclay, Shepherd, Tony, and Galdic will be playing. Okay. So, yeah, I mean, that's, if they're not playing, then you're back to the well with Darius Slayton, who was five for 63 last week. Slate's, Slate's a fine player. And you can dart throw, uh, historical, temporary my guy, Dante Pettish. He is the first temporary my guy that we've ever had. Yeah. First and only, yeah. Yeah.

It was like he was walking up to the stage at one of those award shows. And then as he got to the first step, they're like, turn around, go back to your seat. I read it wrong. It was like in the Oscars when they read the wrong movie. Oh my gosh. They did do that. Yes. Dante Pettis did not win. Oh my goodness. Baker Mayfield, possible that he plays in week eight against the Steelers. I mean.

Your season is starting to become threatened by the injuries. So having him back, you know. Does it change much for you and your outlook for any of the other Browns? It really does. Really? Yeah. And last week had you asked me that before the game where I got to watch Case Keenom play football. Like my opinion of their ceiling changed in watching Keenom attempt to execute the offense. Not that he's incapable, but it was evident to me that they wanted to take the ball out of his hands more than they would Baker.

Yeah, it does affect the ceiling for me. Okay. Nick Chubb hopes to play. He's going to see how his calf injury responds. I think right now the expectation is he will play. Is that right? I would agree. All right. That's it for news and notes. Brought to you by our great friends at Sleeper, the Sleeper app, the leader in breaking news alerts. Can't get enough.

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I guess it ties in with sleepers, too. They could wake up. Oh, yeah. Wake up! Second half sleepers. I like that. That was... I liked it a lot. We do good work. Good work, team. Mike does. Mike does good work. It's my team. Second half sleepers, we each wanted to identify a couple of names. And look, I want this to be a spirited debate. So if you guys disagree with any of my picks or vice versa, let's...

Let's bring that to the forefront why we see the narrative maybe not playing out the way that the other one believes. But my first name is Keenan Allen. We talked about him earlier in the show briefly. But Keenan Allen is the wide receiver 35 right now. That's nonsense. He's not going to finish as the wide receiver 35.

And is that on the basis of the fact he's finished third, 12th, 8th, and 14th the last four years? That is part of the basis. Does anybody think that Justin Herbert's not playing better football now than he was last year? I think he's very good at quarterback. So there is an opportunity here where the Chargers ranked first in neutral game pace, third and pass rate over expectation. Herbert has leveled up. The team is going to be competing long into the season. They have what I think is a very...

Nice playoff schedule. And so to me, Keenan Allen is a trade target. He's still seeing 9.7 targets per game. He's on pace for 164 targets. And yet through seven weeks, it's just kind of not bounced his way because he only has one touchdown. So Mike Williams is stealing them all. Yeah, it's not going to stay with the, you know, the pendulum swung so far in the Mike Williams direction.

His expectation right now would be the wide receiver 11 in fantasy points per game based on targets. And he's sitting at, you know, 29 to 35 depending on your scoring system. So for me, touchdown turnaround, targets keep coming. And you're going to end up in a good place if you trade for him now. Yeah, I agree with this one. I don't really have any bone to pick with the fact that Keenan Allen is.

You know, you just look at situations. I kind of, I see this somewhat similar to Amari Cooper, where it's like, is the player really good? Yes. Is the offense really good? Yes. Is the quarterback really good? Yes. Are they going to finish the season better than where they're at right now? Like, yeah, yeah. I mean, you just kind of bet on the big, obvious things. And if the metrics and the touchdowns and the yardage hasn't happened yet,