really ruled out until very late in the week. Jamal Williams went from a multi-week absence to, oh, he's practicing in full. They didn't even use Jamal. Why would they? It was all Aaron Jones who looked fantastic. And the question is moving forward. What is Aaron Jones? I think, I believe that Aaron Jones has turned the Green Bay situation into far more of a timeshare. That doesn't mean Aaron Jones.
Fantasy Football 2017 - Week 5 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Trade Targets
Fantasy Football 2017 - Week 5 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Trade Targets
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133 passagesis coming in and getting 15 carries. I'm talking to the tune of 8 to 10 carries a week when Ty Montgomery is back. But we have in this landscape of running backs to have a guy with juice like Aaron Jones on a high powered offense who's going to get 8 to 10 touches, you can't ignore that. No, certainly not. And the question is, so what does that do to Ty Montgomery? You know, Time Montgomery is gone from being.
He's been on the field for 90 plus percent of snaps when he's out there and getting everything. You look at what happened with Todd Gurley this last week where all of a sudden a few touches that he was getting all these third down, all the third down work, all the passing work. And this last week it was like, oh, okay, Malcolm Brown is involved. Oh, Tavon Austin's getting a bunch of carries. Those things hurt Todd Gurley. So, you know, I don't know. I think when T. Y.
or when when time montgomery gets back he'll still be the definite starter agreed he'll get the bulk of the workload but he he drops a peg because of what aaron jones has done and it's it would it i know that jamal williams beat out erin jones in camp and throughout these first few weeks they've said jamaul williams is the guy i i would find it shocking if the coaching staff doesn't review the tape and go
Okay, Aaron Jones, you're the second string running back then. Yeah, I mean, I can't fathom that. So Marlon Mack, Aaron Jones, those were the Razzie Cain's Rising Stars of the Week. Remember, game day tastes better with Raising Cain's tailgates full of fresh 24-hour, marinated, hand-battered chicken fingers and fresh-brewed sweet tea visit Raising Cains.com to find your nearest location. You know I'm all about that sweet tea life. Jason and I enjoyed, enjoyed some Razzie Cates. We sure did. While watching the football games yesterday. All right.
Enough of this positivity. Pooped in his big boy pants. This is my time for crow. Jason had alluded that a storm of diarrhea was approaching. Oh, it's upon me. It's upon me. My pants are here because of Ben Rafflesberger. What? I am so thankful for you two gentlemen.
Look, we don't always get everything right whenever no one ever will. I was, there were enough things that, you know, I looked at from metrics and from the schedule and the way the first few weeks had lined up to make me believe that Biddon Rathlisberger was going to be an okay start this week. I really did believe that. And I am so thankful that you and Andy just did not buy in. You're like, no, that's, I, I.
disagree wholeheartedly because if you needed three points from your quarterback, then Big Ben came through. Did he do that? He got three points. I think he got like two. That's impressive. That's impressive because he threw five interceptions. He still had over 300 yards. Oh, man. It was, it was a nightmare. And I, you know, look, I don't usually apologize. It's too late, Jason. Big Ben. Oh, I think he needs an apology. I need a apology from Big Ben. So moving forward.
Let's talk Big Ben first a little bit. He's been playing pretty poorly. I mean, this was the... His press conference, he was questioning if he still had it. And that's what I mean. When a player, when a quarterback in the NFL is all of a sudden having this inner monologue of, oh crap, have I lost it? Matt Schaub. Because when it goes away, when you're mentally done, you're done. It's gone.
Yeah, it's gone. And we had already had this, this weird, well, it seemed weird at the time, but the offseason of Big Ben saying, well, maybe I'll retire. Yeah. It's not over for Big Ben yet. I mean, I'm certainly not going to prop him up again and make him more than he is. Like you said, he did throw for over 300 yards. It was the first game of the season where he didn't have a touchdown. You know, some of those, some of the interceptions were most.
definitely his fault. I would say the majority of them, but, you know, not all of them. And credit needs to be given to Jacksonville. Yes. The Jaguars were amazing. I mean, their defense, listen to what they've given up to the quarterback position in fantasy eight points in week one, 17 in week two, six points in week three, five point three points in week four, and now they gave Big Ben, you know, whatever he got three points or so.
Yeah. Meanwhile, you can beat them on the ground. Like I said, why are you not giving Levy on the ball? More. Jared Goff came back to Earth. Deshaun Kaiser lost his job halfway through the game. So that's the situation to monitor if you were counting on Deshaun Kaiser. Who knows if he'll be the starting quarterback? Yeah, if you're in some kind of league, let's say you've got deep benches, two quarterback dynasty. Got to be looking at Chris Hogan.
No, Kevin Hogan or Kessler. Hogan. Hogan? It's got to be Hogan. I mean, the Kessler is, I mean, I've, I, look, if I was the Browns, I think Kessler's actually a decent quarterback and you had something going there. I would have gone that way, but that doesn't seem at all the direction that the Browns are going. Hogan, Hogan, I think would be the guy. Joe Flacco and Jay Cutler continued their struggles. Now for the main event. Oh, yes.
I don't, why, why are we celebrating in this man's bad game? Let me tell you why we're celebrating. Because, and this man's Todd Girl. Todd Girling, running back, Los Angeles Rams. He, uh, he lets some people down. It's the small victories, Mike, that you need because there was some shade thrown on Todd Gurley by the both of us. Mm-hmm. And, you know, we, we said, look, this opening schedule is great.
But it's going to come back down to earth for Todd Gurley. Last week, I was the only one. You abandoned me. And I said, look, I am still willing to trade Todd Gurley because his upcoming schedule is rough. But only if you can get a, you know, another great running back upgrade your running back position. I would have been willing to do it. Now, he did have the almost touchdown that was turned into a fumble touchback on him.
But overall, Todd Gurley, 14 carries for 43 yards, only two receptions for seven yards, and a fumble, did not get it done. And it was against Seattle, which was a difficult matchup in their upcoming schedule. But the thing about it is, it, they have Seattle's defense has not been playing that well. They've been giving up points to running backs. So that's, that's kind of why it was thinking what Gurley should be able to get it done. But now you have.
Tavon Austin coming back here, taking six touches. Moving forward, we've taken enough. We've taken enough of pushing Todd Gurley down. Moving forward.
What do you see for Todd Gurley? Is this just a blip on the radar? You know, it probably is more of a blip on the radar. I think they're going to continue to get him involved and he will continue to be an RB1 in most weeks. It's just a matter of watching up for his schedule, Jacksonville. They can be run on, but they're still a great defense. That can turn the game script around to where it becomes difficult to run at all. Sure. Arizona.
Right now they just look like a complete dumpster fire, but they, in theory, have a good defense. And it's a division matchup. Yeah, I mean, you know, I think you, you hold on to Todd Gurley and you play him unless you can upgrade him to another running back. Carlos Hyde had a stinker of a game. He came in. He was dealing with the minor hip issue, but only got eight carries, 11 yards. Matt Breda. Out touched him. He looked. He looked better.
According to Kyle Shanahan, it was the hot hand situation, nothing about the injury. Shananigans. Yeah. Oh, Shanahanigans. Shannonigans. No, like, I don't buy that. I don't buy that he, that it had nothing to do with the injury. Hyde was out for a majority of the week in practice. He has an injury that, you know, I'm sure he doesn't want to get reagravated. And when you say, when you come out and say, no, it wasn't about the injury.
Well, there's, there's motive for that, right? I mean, I'm telling the league, no, he's not even injured. I'm not worried about that. You don't need to target, you know, you don't need to hurt my guy. I mean, you do that with injuries like, you know, hips and ribs and things like that that you don't want your player to take a beating on. Blow plow. Ooh. Oh. Someone found a cure for zombie. What happened? He got a little bit banged up, but.
It was just a really bad game overall. Mike Gillisley did not come through for fantasy. He was 12 for 52. He looks good, but here's the problem for Mike Gillisley. Dionne Lewis looks fantastic. He's getting on the field more than I anticipated. So it's where we, it looked like it was going to be James White, Mike Gillisley. That's it. Now Dionne Lewis has thrown himself into the mix and Chris Hogan.
keeps catching all these touchdowns. And you've got Rex Burkhead, who I expect to be back this coming week. So that's another running back in the mix. Now, whether or not he takes, you know, most of that work away from Dionne Lewis. I would say this. Mike Gillisley, a lot of questions. What do we do with him? Yeah. I'm definitely keeping him. He's also a trade target for me because he passes the eye test. He's still on a high power offense. And he will over the course of the season get, you know, a lot.
a lot of touchdowns. Amir Abdullah had a down game, but Jason had already said he would, he would target him. Yeah, he's just getting the Saints next week. He's getting, you know, a lot of use. They, they are clearly wanting to get him the ball. That was a tough matchup against Carolina. The running backs for the Titans were pretty bad. You know who really deserves a pooper here is the running backs for the Seattle Seahawks. Oh, all of them. Oh, my goodness.
That gives it. Oh, my goodness. It's a three poops. It's, what do you do with that situation? You get, you avoid the situation. Lacey, nine carries for 19. Rawls eight for 20. So yards per carry slightly better for Thomas Rawls. I don't want anything to do with this running game. Their offensive line can't get it done.
This was as good a matchup. The L.A. Rams were the 31st against the run as far as giving up fantasy points to the position. They couldn't get it done through the air. They couldn't get it done on the ground in a great matchup. I don't think either of them have it. And they don't have enough to overcome this horrific offensive line. So if you've got a terrible, awful.
offensive line and multiple guys that you're never sure who's going to get the ball. I don't want anything to do with it. I am happy to cut them. I'm going to try to package trade them, but I don't know that anybody wants to take them on. And I feel like they're going to take up a roster spot where I'm not sure if one of them goes down that the other would even be valuable behind this line. I completely agree. Chris Johnson remains terrible.
But I want to point out a stat that was brought to light by our own Kyle Borgioni. Borgnioni. Didn't nail that one. Borgone. Sorry, Kyle. But over the last three weeks, only Antonio Brown, Odo Beckham, and A.J. Green have more targets than Andre Ellington. His role is secure. Chris Johnson is washed. The team needs Andre Ellington right now. If he is.
for whatever reason you didn't pick up last week. You have to grab Andre Ellington, moving to the wide receivers. Mari Cooper, my hands are in the air. You can't see me on the podcast. You can see me on the YouTube, but I don't know what to do with. Let's be honest. You should be on the YouTube. All right. I don't know what to do with Mark Cooper. Al Sean, it was a Patrick Peterson effect. Are there any of these wide receivers, Doug Baldwin, Mike Evans, Golden Tate, Randall Cobb. Do you have any kind of overarching?
concerned with them moving forward, just a down week. Literally none of those guys am I overly concerned. The biggest concern would be Cooper. I mean, he's put three weeks up. His last three weeks, he has a grand total of, what is that, four receptions for, like, teens, yards. I mean, he's been horrifically bad. But again, that was against, you know, some of the best corners and without his quarterback.
