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Fantasy Football 2017 - Week 5 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Trade Targets

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Yeah, Deshaun Watson's probably going to end up in the stud muffin section. You think? Let's find out. You're bold. This week's fantasy stud muffins. Your current number one scoring quarterback of the week, Deshawn Watson, five touchdowns on only 16 completions. Wow. If these trends continue, I mean, it was, it was an outrageous night for Watson. He looked, he struggled.

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for most of this game. And then, Oh, the garbage land can. Which, to be fair, the, the, uh, the, the, uh, the bomb to Fuller and Hopkins. I mean, he's still trying to bring the team back, but then to end the game with a touchdown to Hopkins. It's just delightful for fantasy owners. Yeah. I mean, Deshaun Watson has been a revelation. We got to, we got to talk. Watson is, this is a moving forward. What are you doing with Deshaun Watson who has been just.

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unbelievable. I mean, he has gone nuclear the past three weeks. What you do with Deshaun Watson, to me, the decision as to, okay, what am I supposed to do if I've got him is very, very easy and obvious. Look, he has been, he's, he's been as hot as you could possibly get. Here's how hot he is. We're five weeks in. He is four points behind the number one quarterback on the season, Alex Smith, who's also been, you know, just touchdowns galore, except Deshaun Watson didn't start week one.

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He's, you know, he's for all intents of purposes, you know, almost a whole game behind. And he is virtually the number one quarterback in the league. So if you've got him, you start him, you stay in those flames. And if I have him, I'm trading him or fielding offers to trade him to every team imaginable. He's got the Browns coming up.

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That, great. Do you want to hold him for one more week and then his buy week? No, I'm not holding him for one more week. So it's buy week after the Browns? Yes. That means if you hold him for the Browns, now you're going to have a really hard time trading him after that. Maybe. But you're not going to have him. No, I mean, trading for a guy on buy, you never, ever get the value. When you're trading a player on buy, you, the person buying him expects a discount.

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I don't think there's anywhere for Deshaun Watson to go but down. And that's not to say he hasn't proved valuable. You don't think he can just go linear. I don't think he can go linear with five touchdowns a game. I think that would break the world and the NFL history books. And this isn't taking anything away from Deshaun Watson. I'm not saying he's a bad quarterback or that he's going to fall to the 20s.

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He'll be a startable asset the rest of the year because of his baseline with his rushing and his propensity to get it done near the goal line. But you have a guy that in a league you should be able to trade him to someone who believes that he is the newest revelation in the NFL and get a good wide receiver or a good running back for him and you'll be able to replace his value, I think much easier than you could possibly replace a starting wide receiver or running back.

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Dak Prescott had a fantastic game as expected. Unfortunately, he goes on to the bye week, but he is an absolute hold. There's a lot of these quarterbacks. If you're streaming, you say bye week, goodbye, hit the bricks. Do not drop Dak Prescott. Carson Wentz dominated the Arizona Cardinals, 21 of 30 for over 300 yards. He was, he was absolutely fantastic. And here's where we eat crow.

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Cam Newton. Oh, I'm happy to. Another monster game against the Detroit Lions who were, I mean, statistically, they were an okay defense, but they were causing turnovers. They were creating havoc. Cam Newton comes in, drops over 350 yards, three touchdowns. I mean, he absolutely dominated them. Yeah, and he did it in the passing game. It wasn't like he had a, I think he had zero rushing yards. Zero?

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Really? Okay. Well, we got to vet that. I recheck that a number of times because I was surprised. All the attempts, yeah. Right. So, I mean, this is, this is good news. You know, I think Cam Newton is a guy he's done it before. I called. So are you, are you in? Yeah, I would say, I'm in. If, if you had the shoulder surgery, you come back, you look bad, you're slow to recover. And then the last two weeks.

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You've gotten it done, and you've gotten it done with some of the newer weapons. Devin Funches has stepped up into that third year leap as a wide receiver. You've got Christian McCaffrey who's patting, you know, he hasn't had a running back to pat his passing stats the way that, you know, Matthew Stafford has always had and the way that Drew Brees has always had. Now, you know, if Christian McCaffrey is getting 50, 60 yards through the air, those are Cam Newton's numbers.

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So, yeah, I'll happily eat crow on Cam Newton here, although he is not. Cam Newton is not my number one waiter for crow being delivered. I have, I have a big pile when we get to the poop poopie section. All right. We'll get there. So please don't talk about waiters in a poopie section. Yeah. That's unfortunate. Alex Smith continues his domination. Every week's start. Yeah, has to be right now.

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This is a different Alex Smith. And Brian Hoyer had himself a game. Hey, there you go. My stream of the week. The matchup was great against the Colts. Moving over to the running back position, Melvin Gordon had a sensational game. 20 carries over 100 yards. I mean, it's all systems go. Yeah, it is for me. I know you and I disagree with. We sit here on the couch watching.

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And you just don't believe in Melvin Gordon. And I absolutely love Melvin Gordon. So that gave me great joy to look at you with menacing eyes. Yes. Yes, I received it. I received that glare many, many times. But my favorite running back in the league right now, favorite absolutely to watch. There's nobody I would rather watch another definite stud muffin. Leonard Fournette. I mean, he is, he's the new AP. He's bringing on the hits. He's got this play where he's, you know. Oh, if you have.

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If you have not seen this play, you need to look it up immediately. But Leonard Fernette breaks a tackle. He's right. So he has wheeled out to the, he caught the edge. There is a defender coming. And he knows that there's, I'm going to hit this guy. He waves the defender at him. Yeah, full matrix and says bring. Yeah, exactly. Come on. And then proceeds to run into him. I mean, he didn't.

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He didn't stay on his feet, unfortunately. If he had blown him up and ran, it would have been one of the best plays of all time. But it's just the fact that he is inviting contact mid play. I mean, he's done it. He did it in high school. He did it in college. He is a generational talent. And I think Leonard Fournette, you know, here's a good question. Melvin Gordon, Leonard Fornett. I've seen a lot of this question being asked. Like rest of season? Who would you rather have Leonard Fournette or Melvin Gordon in fantasy?

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That's tough because Melvin Gordon is so involved in the passing game. Yeah. If you're in any kind of PPR, half point or full point, I think you've got to go. Melvin Gordon, he is, I mean, he had six receptions this last week. Both of his touchdowns came in the passing game. So I would still lean Gordon. But if I'm in a standard league and I'm not getting anything for the receptions, just total yards. You rather have four net? I think I'd go four net. Aaron Jones had a monster game.

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in replacement starting for Green Bay, but we're going to talk about him a little bit later. Buck Allen. Talk about a Mr. Necessary. Terrence West goes out immediately at the beginning of the of the Ravens versus Raiders. And Buck Allen comes in and he's getting all the carries. He got everything near the goal line. I mean, Alex Collins was in and was involved and looked, you know, all right.

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You know, about as good as Buck Allen who looked, eh, all right. Right. But when you get 21 carries and he's the guy they trust to not fumble near the goal line, that's why you, you know, as soon as you got inside the 20s, you never saw Alex Collins. It was the, uh, the Buck Allen show. And not the most efficient day, but great fantasy numbers. Absolutely. And that's what we care about. 21 carries and you get a touchdown. You catch four, four, uh, balls. I think.

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Buck Allen's one of those guys where if Terrence West is injured this week and he's out, he's all systems go. Duke Johnson had another great game on very limited touches. Marlon Mack. Yeah, we'll talk about him here in a little bit too. Nine for 91 and a touchdown looked terrific. And somehow this player on our Thursday recap, we got too caught up in the Nick Folk talk. And we didn't even really talk about Doug Martin.

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after the game, which is surprising, given that Andy's just true affection. He's one of Andy's three my guys. He has, Doug Martin has a very special place in Andy's heart, and he came through in a big way. Yeah, I mean, only got 13 carries, turned that into 74 yards and a touchdown. In a whose down. I mean, Doug Martin, he's, he is a great running back. He's on a team that needs to run the ball that wants.

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that to be their identity. And, you know, he's an absolute weekly must start. And he's going to finish from here on out. Where do you have? Yeah. From here on out, he'll be a top 10 running back for sure. Top 10? Yeah. Easily. That's fine. I was going to say running back too. But I think a lot of it has to do with the landscape. We did get the old rope a dope when Jukwiz Rogers was out there to start the game. And you go, oh, crap.

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Yeah, beforehand, Andy was saying, you know, he's like, I wouldn't be surprised if you see Jaquiz come out and start this game. And I was like, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised either, but I'll be shocked if at the end of the game it's an even carry number. And it was not. The quiz came out, got those first few carries, finished with three carries. Before we move on to the wide receiver studs of the week, want to thank Pristine Auction for sponsoring the show. We talk about them all the time because they are the best sports memorabilia place.

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It's taking everything in me right now. To just be like we are engaging in a full bidding war, but they have other things like a full size Deshawn Watson signed helmet. I mean, this is where we get all of our jerseys that the signatures are always guaranteed to be authentic. That's what you care about, right? Did that guy actually sign it? Yes. Yes, he did because they used the best authenticators around, around and just footclan.

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footballers. All right. Let's talk some stud muffin wide receivers. AJ Green. Ho-hum. Oh, um, seven receptions for 189 and a touchdown. I think this is, this is a sigh of relief for people who drafted AJ Green. Andy Dalton, it was a rough start to the year. It seems like they have gotten things figured out.

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Yeah, I mean, the thing with AJ Green has always been, even though he is up in that 90 to 100 reception, he's always near the top, he's never been a super consistent fantasy guy. He's not like the Antonio Browns where, you know, 75% of the time you're getting a great week. But his games are so blow up huge. He's the type that can win you a week. This is, this is that type of week. I mean, he finishes as the number one wide receiver.

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