Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - AFC North Breakdown, News, Mailbag

But it will not surprise me at all to see Hill on the field for more third downs. Kind of like similar to Lynch last year is how I see Jeremy Hill happening this year where he, Lynch did, he played a good amount of third downs. Not all of them. There was a good amount where Robert Turbin came in and spelled him on third down. But he's just so good that it's hard to take him off the field.

And I think he proved that last year. Do you have Fawcett and Charles ahead or behind of Jeremy Hill in a PPR league? I think Fawcett is higher. I'm not positive. Let me look at that. Let me pull that up. Did you have any thoughts on those running backs? What is Gio Bernard this year, Jason? I think Gio Bernard is a good player to have for the value he's going in a PPR league.

because he will score, and he's kind of getting pooped all over because of Jeremy Hill's excellence. And if Jeremy Hill were to go out, you know that he has the capability of taking on that role, especially if it's only for, you know, the second half of the season or something like that. So I actually like Geo for where he's being drafted. I'm not looking at him as saying, bump him up. I'm saying keep him where he's at. Did you figure out the answer to the question? I was right. Justin Forset at five, Hill at six, and Charles is...

Charles is locked in at eight across everything, but I think Charles is going to get a slight bump for me coming up pretty soon. Yeah, all right, let's transition over to the Browns. We've got to go to the final team here. Jason, did you have something you're going to add? You know, I know he's not the sexiest person to bring up, but to pass over Andy. Don't do it. To pass for Andy Dalton and to not say anything about him, we forget that a couple years ago, he was the number three total quarterback in standard scoring.

numeral trice. They call that the red year. That was the red year. Yeah. But we just named all the weapons he didn't have last year who are coming back. And he is capable, at least in the regular season, of putting up big numbers. Oh, no.

And he's being drafted very late. And so I just think this is a guy that we should be actually giving a little bit of fantasy respect to because he presents a value to me for where he's going, especially as someone that drafts late on quarterbacks or prefers that strategy. Andy Dalton is a guy I'd be happy to have super late. Andy Dalton had the year, the red year. The red year. The red year. But the rest of his career reminds me of the red wedding.

Not good. Not pretty. Not pretty. Tough to watch. I'm not on the fray side if you catch my drifts. Yeah. Tough. How starts for life. How many left? All right. Let's talk Browns before we get to the end of the show. You guys want to talk Browns. From Red to Brown. Let's go. From Red to Brown. They were disastrous on the offensive side of the ball last year. 23rd best offense. They were the 27th best scoring offense.

Now they bring in Josh McCown, who's at the helm, Johnny Mansell in the wings. They have no Josh Gordon. They are rolling out Dwayne Bow and Brian Hartline, both new additions. Andrew Hawkins is back. Taylor Gabriel is back. And then the running back core is a three-headed menagerie monster. I like it. What's up? Isaiah Crowell, Terrence West, and Duke Johnson. And they also brought him Rob Hauser. So there's not much from...

Honestly, from last year that resembles this year. We know they have the ability to be a very capable offensive line, and so we expect them to lean on the run game. Yeah, they've got Josh McCown. We expect them to lean on the run game. Well said.

Well said, but McCown can sling it a little bit. Alshan Jeffrey still has pictures of McCown up on his wall. I know. He's still getting paid. Matt Flynn made a lot of money for something he did in the past two. So I get Josh McCown came in. I had Josh McCown during those times of the Bears. I loved it. McCown's the Benjamin Button of the NFL. Not according to last year. But my question here, genuine question, because obviously both these guys are about to start for different new teams. But who is actually a better quarterback?

Brian Hoyer or Josh McCown. Hmm. Josh McCown. Without question. Really? Without question. Yes. Yeah. It's not close for me. I think I would go with McCown as well. Yeah. So you see this as an upgrade to their offensive. Yes. I do. Yes. Yep. Yeah. And I, it's like an upgrade from the, like, 29th best quarterback to the 27th best quarterback. You're going from the 110 degree port of John to the.

87 degree portrait John. All right, yeah. I would much rather be in the 87 degree porters. Exactly. Is it humid? What's, what kind of humidity are we looking at? Well, ultimately, you'd like to not be in either, but you're stuck as the Cleveland Browns. And all of our Cleveland Browns listeners out there were sorry. We like Josh McCown. Or I kind of like John. He's an ex- Cardinal. He played for the Cardiff's back when he was. And I think you're, you're forgetting. There was a period.

A couple game stretch last year because he came back from his injury where he was the hotness. Him and Mike Evans were tearing it up. If you were streaming him, you could have got a couple good games. There was, I think, a three-game stretch where you kept rolling the dice on Josh McCown and he paid off. Eventually he kind of pooped the bed. I'm going to ask you guys put their wide receivers in order in terms of fantasy production this year. Dwayne Bow first. Are we talking PPR?

Uh, whatever you want. That's the defeat. Pick one. Pick one, I mean. I mean, you know, all right, we're talking standard league. Standard league, put them in order. Standard league, Dwayne Bo? Is that because you wanted to say Andrew Hawkins's name? Well, it just, it changes. Is that why? Dwayne Bo, Taylor Gabriel, Andrew Hawkins are my standard. So Hartline's at the bottom. Yeah, Hartline is, he's the de facto started right now and he's just.

That guy, he had back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons, and he just vanished. Who was that? Vanished. He was Houdini. Who is the receiver for Houston that played opposite of Andre Johnson all those years? Kevin Walter. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's who Brian Hartline reminds me of, not just because they're both white, but because they're both, like, they go out there and they give you, like, three or four catches.

And it's never, you know, three catches for 48 yards and no touchdowns or four for 62. Yeah, Heartline does, I mean, they say it looks good in camp, but I just don't think there's much production there. How big a league do you need to be in to start really considering, you know, Hawkins or Brian Hartline to roster and play? If I'm in PPR, I roster Hawkins. You do you know that Hawkins, through the first eight games, he averaged 10 targets.

Yeah. A game. Then somehow everything just fell apart in the last six. He averaged five targets. But Hawkins was a PPR beast for a while. But now with Dwayne Boe coming in, and primarily being the number one receiver, you really think there's going to be enough. Because I think the Browns just, I mean, the same coaching staff. And I think they brought in McCown because he's going to be a different O coordinator. Game manager. And I think that they are going to run the ball, run the ball, run the ball. And so I think the number one receiver is clearly going to be Dwayne Bo.

who I'm actually liking the value of. Yes. I know. It's gross. You guys can stay in that. It's gross to me. Port-a-potty by yourself together. But my point is... I'm not jumping on that ever again. I don't think there's going to be enough PPR scraps behind it. That's just my take. I think, honestly, the PPR scraps behind it might be Duke Johnson. That's what I think. Yeah, I still like Huggins. Let's put those guys in order then. Standard League. Is it Crowell?

Johnson West, Corel, West Johnson. I see Correll, Johnson West. Because I think West comes in... Your point about Duke Johnson's not wrong. Because he might line up in the slot. So he might take away from Hawkins. So ring the bell. You're not wrong. I thought this was unanimous bell. Is this just a Jason's right bell? No. That's the shame bell, actually. You just shamed yourself. No. In standard, I think for me, it's...

Crowell West Johnson. All right, before we get over to the mailbag, I do want to talk about one more Cleveland Brown that I am higher on than both of you guys, and that's Rob Housler. He comes in. Hey, hey, what?

He was about him, too. I was just the only one. What do you mean you're about him, too? Yeah, well, we had an episode. Okay, we need to play back the tape when we both talk positively. We are going to have to. Yeah, you two were both high on Hauser. Mike liked Hausler? Yeah. You were just remembering how horrible and the sour grapes over here. I guess you were sour enough about Howsler to seem like two people. Yeah, I took, I took all. You double stuffed Robert Hauser. Oh, man. Hatred.

It's, you know, it's not a difficult task to take Rob Housler to the, to, you know. So Jordan Cameron's gone. He produced last year when he was healthy and unconcust. That game. Unconcussed is the official term. Rob Housler is a pass catcher. He ain't going to be in there blocking. No. That is the truth. So is he their best receiver? No. Dwayne Bowie. I'm just throwing it out there. The struggle was when I was trying to write up some notes on these guys. What I got for Rob Housler.

Was how well he did at the Combine? That's his career highlight so far? That was the highlight for Rob Housler. He peaked a little too early. Got him drafted. Hey, keep your eye on him, though. Keep your eye on him. Yeah, it could be absolutely a streamer. But we don't have any stats for you because he hasn't produced in the NFL. Yeah, and we kind of glossed over the running backs, but I think Duke Johnson is completely worth a late round flyer of he has the three-down ability, the Browns.

They're not overcommitted to either of those other guys. Yeah, that's the thing. Sometimes they bench guys. They make them inactive. They do all kinds of weird things. And who knows? By week six. But when Alex Matt gets hurt, release them all. Just release them all into the abyss. Immediately. All right. I'm joking about that. Release the hound. But it's nice that he's back. So let's answer some questions. Mailbag. It was harder today to kind of stuff all the information about those teams into one show.

I felt like there were still more we could have talked about. And I guess we will. Well, I didn't even get to talk about Dwayne Bo that much. Well, yeah, we're thankful for that. Me and Jason are on the Dwayne Bo rainbow. I don't want to get too crazy on Dwayne Bo here. Join me. If you have a question, you can call us 302, 46. I'm saying the number here. Dwayne Bo. Now you say the number. 602. No. That's not the number. I'll say the number.

It's 302-464-T-F-F-B. 302-464-8332. You can call us, leave your question on our voice mailbox. I was thinking of Dwaynebo's phone number. Or just dial 6-02. Just dial. I have Dwaynebo on speed dial, and I was thinking of his phone number. All right, let's answer some questions. Hey, guys, this is Steven. I'm the one who called in or actually emailed in with the 25 round.

2B PPR startup dynasty graph. Got Eli Manning and Teddy Bridgewater is my starting too. And looking down at the list, I kind of missed on a third quarterback. So if you guys could talk to which backups have the most potential to start and soon, that would be great. Thanks a lot. Love the show. That's a good question. One bit of news that came out today is actually the fact that Matt Castle is looking pretty terrible. That is...

It is actually shocking to me. It is because they, I mean, this report was, I think, a little bit hyperbolic. I don't think he's leaving that team, but they would save money if they cut him. But it was basically saying Manuel has outperformed him significantly in camp. And the fact that, you know, this doesn't necessarily help Stephen very much. But if E.J. Manuel's right behind Matt Castle, he won't be drafted. What are some other guys? What are some other names that come to mind for you? Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Ryan Fitzpatrick, to me, is a guy that will be starting in week four or five once he's healthy and will perform. If we're just talking about maybe some later, I guess this is for right now. There's two categories, right? There's the category of a backup might play because someone gets hurt, and then there's the category of a backup might play because they supersede and take over for the incumbent. Monitor Colt McCoy and Captain Kirk in Washington. Fair.

that they will sit RG3 down, and with his contract the way it is structured, where his money becomes guaranteed if he gets hurt for next year. So if Washington doesn't like what they're seeing, they're going to sit his butt down, and they're not going to take the risk of him getting injured and collecting a paycheck for next year. So he could take over. It pains me to say it, but if McCown doesn't overly impress compared to Mansell...