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Starts of the Week, Wk 6 Matchups, Dad is Back

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The only other big questions here are do you start Austin Echler and do you start Mike Williams? I looked at Austin Echler and he is the most terrifying player to start in the face of the planet. He scored in four or five weeks, right? And the weeks he doesn't score through the air, he scored on the ground. The week he doesn't score on the ground, he scores through the air. He has like 10 touches a game.

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And he terrifies me. Yeah, because you can't, I mean, starting a running back. Because I know as soon as I start him, he will get nothing. Yeah, who only gets 10 touches is, yeah, that's rough. Mike, are you starting him? You can flex him, yep. Oh, man, you can. I'm still leaving him on my bench. Covering my eyes. And, and Mike Williams, you know, he's one of those guys where I see a lot of the same argument that you're making about waiting on Antonio Callaway.

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There's just a lot of wide receivers. There's a lot of options. You don't have to throw in the, ooh, he could have a big game guy because you probably can, you know, you picked up Tyler Boyder. I would much rather play the volume over the big play opportunities in Callaway and Mike Williams. Here's my advice for the Cleveland Browns. I talked about the schedule for them is absolutely incredible coming up with Chargers this week, Tampa, Pittsburgh, great matchups.

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If your tight-in position is rough, try to get David and Joku. He's had seven plus targets in four or five games, 11 targets this past week. He's starting to emerge. The touchdowns have not come for him. That's why people aren't freaking out about David and Jokka. If he was putting up the targets and receptions and had caught a touchdown or two by now, everyone will be losing their crap for David and Joku. I think it's only a matter of time.

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before he breaks out. And I would like to get on it before the breakout happens. Yeah, I think there is a lack of trust in Callaway on the Todd Haley side of the equation. And Injoku could be a beneficiary of that as well. The two and three bills take on the two and three Texans. Texans are 10 point home favorites. 41 point over under. Start your Texans defense based on those two metrics.

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Yeah, I mean, yes. That's been the policy of me for weeks now. Just play whoever's playing the bills. Yep. Because even if the bills do produce, there's enough mistakes to go around. And then if they don't produce, you're ending up in a great situation. Texan's playing a little bit better of late. Deshaun Watson's been pretty good. Now, Lamar Miller says he's definitely going to play in this game. But we need to remember one thing that I don't think you guys mentioned when you were talking about whether you liked blue or not yesterday was the snap.

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The snaps were starting to change before Lamar Miller's injury. He wasn't the guy in the final game before his injury. He was sharing snaps with Alfred Blue because we saw this at the end of last year. Yeah, that's what I was going to bring up. I was going to bring up the end of last season when all of a sudden you had Lamar Miller, who was a workhorse running back for the whole season. Jason with the throat, the throat leaving. I mean, this is a guy who was averaging.

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you know, 17 carries a week through the first 13 games. And then all of a sudden at the end of the year, they're like, it's just, it's not that good. Let's give them nine. Let's give them eight. Let's give them 10. And Alford Blue took over. And so, yeah, you did start to see that. I think there, I really do believe there is a part of this team that is preparing these running backs for Deont de Foreman's return. Possible. Yeah. Lamar Miller could end up in Devonti Booker's shoes by the end of this year.

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He will still have a role, but I don't want to play him. And the Texans have won the last two games in which Lamar Miller has been phased out of the offense, either by injury or by decision. I just, I'm not confident starting him is what I'm saying. I know that the matchup's beautiful for that. But, I mean, if I had to choose between Lamar Miller and Alfred Blue, like if I had to, like you just, my life depended on it. Gun to the face. Whoa. Right. He's got a gun to my head. Whoa. And I'm saying. Most people go ahead. I say.

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face i'm i'm going alfred blue is my point yeah i would as well and i would not dare do either of those things no i don't want to i think mike correctly pumped the brakes on this backfield um look elsewhere i decided to pick up chris ivory as a cursory hold yes oh as a cursory hold i saw your pickup and i was so upset with us that we did not talk about him more in

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the waiver wire show. You know, we're talking about so many people. Chris Ivory is a must own right now because LaShaul McCoy's not getting traded. Obviously, the Eagles play tonight. And if it's going to the Eagles, it's too late. But as the trade deadline approaches, it would not shock me at all if LaShawn McCoy is traded. And we talked about the value that that makes for shady. But if he's gone, Chris Ivory.

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is probably the, I mean, he is a much bigger beneficiary than even shady is. Yeah, he's just kind of the forgotten piece of that whole potential rumor mill. Now, it's not fun to sign a guy like that and have them on your bench, so you might not have room for him. I tried to look and see, look, is there a buy week that strategically makes sense, but their buy is not until week 11. I'm just holding them for a couple, you know, a week or two. Yeah. My team can afford it.

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And if for some reason McCoy goes out the door, I got a starting running back. I need one as my two running backs share a buy week. So just something I wanted to mention, you're not starting to bill other than the Sean McCoy this week. McCoy did have 24 carries last week, I believe. Yes, well, the volume is back for Shady McCoy. So you can play him as a low end too. Now, would you, you're playing Hopkins. Are you playing Fuller? Yeah. Are you playing Sneaky Cootie?

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Yeah. Sneaky Kiki. I am willing to play Kiki, Fuller, Ann Hopkins, and Watson. Ooh. Wow. I think he is sneaky, Mike. When he's the third guy, he's sneaky as the third guy. Fair. Fair point. And I think that's, I think he'll be sneaky because of his utilization of they're going to need to throw underneath to Kiki this week. All right. The three in one bears take on the three and two dolphins.

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41.5 point over and under. This game's in Miami. The dolphins are three and a half point dogs at home. Is that correct? That is correct. The bears coming off their buy with their improved defense, their superstar quarterback. Six touchdowns. I don't think I'd want a different defense. I mean, the bears are, yeah. I mean, this is who I want to play. This is why people held the bears through their by week. No, it's funny. We mentioned, oh, the bears are owned everywhere. And then the amount of,

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tweets I saw of people picking up the bears. What? Oh, yeah. People were like, hey, it happened in my league. The bears were available. Good for you. Well, with the buy week, it can make sense. Yeah. And look, how many touchdowns have they given up to running backs this year? Do you want to know? The bears? I'm going to guess less than 30. Uh, okay, warmer. Zero? Zero. No touchdowns to the running back position. Uh, it's not going to be.

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sunny days for Kenyon Drake or Frank Gore in this one. You have a Bears defense is playing well. The dolphins are dead last in offensive pace and 31st in place per game. Isn't that like the antithesis of what Adam Gaze wants to do? And does this just mean Ryan Tannenhill cannot comprehend this offense or run it at a pace that is?

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sufficient or does this fall on gays or everybody involved? I think it falls on on gays and tannahill. You can't blame kenyon Drake for not getting the ball when he gets it. He does great things with it. He's going to have to go take it. Ryan tannihill is not a good enough quarterback to lead a franchise to success and Adam gase is a butthole. Oh, based on analysis. Yeah. Now if you, um, an adenine analysis. Oh.

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Oh, we need the... You need the rim shot. I'm sorry. Look, if you, Jason, if you had a gun to your faces, you were prone to say. Stop with the violence. And you had to have a franchise quarterback for the next 10 years, be either Ryan Tannahill or Mitch Trubisky. At which hellish life would you prefer? Oh, sweet mercy. And I'd say that, you know. Look, people will be surprised. You've got to go trubs. But you got to go Mitch Trubisky. Yeah. I mean, I, you know.

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My take against Mitch Trubisky is that he will never be a great quarterback, but I think he can be a middle of the packed quarterback, which Ryan Tannahill cannot achieve. Is this the week that Mr. Jordan Howard awakes from hibernation? Yes. 3.2 yards per carry second worst in the league right now. Yeah, he's going to be absolutely fine. The dolphins can shut down everything except for the running back.

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position allowing running back one performance after running back one performance i'm i love jordan howard yeah jordan howard is a great trade for target i feel like we've said like i feel like i feel like i'm groundhog day because i feel like this is the same jordan howard conversation we have had like other than the buy week but this time it works is it does it work yes i've seen the end of the movie

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it works out well. You don't think that this, the Tariq Cohen explosion was indicative of lack of production from Howard? No, I think that was game plan. They're, which they've said all along that their running backs will be game plan dependent and last, in their last game, which was two weeks ago, was the Tampa Bay Buccaneers who can't stop the pass. The dolphins can't stop the run. I'm expecting lots of Jordan Howard.

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Symbolically, I will give my analysis on the Miami wide receivers by moving on to the next game. One in four Cardinals. Hey, if you can beat the Bears anywhere, it's the fantasy wide receivers. And I will not play. Okay. I won't either. I mean, you can always get a long bomb touchdown from Kenny Stills. But he's, he's in the same boat to me as Mike Williams, Antonio Callowate. Those guys. Trachwan Smith. You can get a long bomb touchdown from these guys.

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So what? Who cares? Yeah, the 1 and 4 Cardinals and Christian Kirk. The 1 and 4 Cardinals and Christian Kirk take on the 2-2-1 Vikings. The Vikings are 10-point home favorites. 43 point over-under. That's... The Cardinals aren't going to score based on that over-under. I mean, I would have expected a higher over-under there with a 10-point.

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gap, but I guess the Cardinals are just doomed in this one. How excited, what's the real ceiling for David Johnson in this road matchup against the Vikings' eighth ranked running defense? They're only giving up 17.5 fancy points per game to the position. You know, a few snaps are going to go chase Edmund's way. The ceiling, the best case scenario is the running back 15.

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Is that why you suggested the trade of David Johnson earlier? That is. Look, if you did, I mean, not everybody gets to watch the games. And if you watch the Arizona Cardinals games, you see he was gifted two touchdowns by not even just Arizona's defense, but the combination of Arizona's defense with CJ Bethard, you know, turning the ball over in bad situations. That's not going to happen every week. And again, David Johnson is hyper talented and is a workhorse.

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As the season goes on, you're going to get plenty of serviceable games from him, as you've already had. I mean, he's been okay for fantasy. Disappointing, yes, but okay. But if you can trade up, if you can package trade him, I will say it until I'm blue in the face. You have to do it. I mean, this week, I don't, I mean, David Johnson, to me, is an RB2 for sure. Now, I was not here to watch your face. So it's important to me.

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that I bring up the David Johnson-Joe Mixon discussion briefly. I did get to listen to you, admit that you were biased and that Mixon's the better pick. But can you... Do you want to speak to that again while I'm present? He finally got to the truth. Not me. Let's go away now. Let's talk about the Vikings. Yeah, let's talk about the Vikings. Light them up. Thielen's the number one fantasy wide out. Diggs is the number eight fantasy wide out in half-point leagues.

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They're both incredible. And I believe, did you know this? Adam Thielen, first wide receiver in NFL history with 100 yards in every game. Did you listen to the fantasy footballers podcast? Not on Monday, Mike. If you mentioned it on Monday, no, I was. Certainly did.

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I was not listening. I was on the beach. What a jerk. Yeah, you're going to start both those guys. Yeah, but did you hear? I think you could start Kyle Rudolph as well, of course. The real question here becomes the running backs. There is something has to give moment. It's like two oh and five teams playing each other. Someone's going to win. The Cardinals.

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