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Fantasy Football 2017 - Week 1 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Injury Tears

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I mean, I'm not. You mean my almost upset of the week? Right. Well, I mean, you're technically wrong because you called almost. Yeah, that's the, that's the gag, Mike. I don't. If I'm putting my chips on anyone, it would be hernes. Yeah, I would lean that way as well just because of the touchdown upside body type history of having done it before. I wouldn't spend much for him on fab, but I would be willing to grab him because, look.

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Someone's going to be the number one wide receiver for an NFL team. Hearns is not going to move back outside, right? He's going to stay in the slot where they have him. So it'd be Lee or Hearns. Do you lean Lee? You know, I lean the cheapest I could get on fab of those two just to see what happens. So whoever's a dollar. That's the amount I'm spending for the replacement for Alan Robinson. All right, guys, David Johnson. David Johnson.

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People were saying that I jinxed him with my... Would your throat swallow? No, that would have been me trading my entire life for this player in our... The Fantasy Reaper trades for you, watch out. Look, he's made of... He's a mutant. We've talked about that on the show before. Sprained wrist, x-rays negative, MRI today. I wish I had more news. I really do. I will be surprised if it doesn't break sometime while we're recording this. The news is not his wrist, right?

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Yes, the news. Come on, man. In the meantime, just so you know, the reports have ranged anywhere from he's not going to miss any time to he's going to miss a couple weeks or half the season or longer. Yeah. Thanks for Chris Mortensen. Anywhere from. Thanks, Mort report. From one to, let's say, 15 more games. Yeah. And if I have to weigh in. Zero. No, it's from zero.

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He'll miss zero to 15. Oh, that's a good point. If I have to weigh in, I would guess he misses this week and he's back. At least? And back. Yep. But it's good that x-rays were negative, but otherwise it was not good. If you were a David Johnson or a Lev Bell owner, you were disappointed in week one. Danny Woodhead left with a hamstring injury, made an incredible one-handed catch. He looked like he was going to be. He was dominating. He heavily targeted. And now the fears that Danny Woodhead may miss.

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Significant time with a hamstring injury. Very disappointing. This is the risk of Danny Woodhead. It's the same hamstring that limited him in camp. So when you reaggravate a hamstring injury, you have to then give it rest. There's nothing. There's nothing that can fix the solution other than waiting until even longer than your hamstring is going to feel fine. Don't get back on the field. So I would say, you know, he's going to miss a long period of time, you know, more than a month.

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which we'll talk about in our rising stars, who to maybe pick up. I've got a sound effect to summarize the entire career of a certain player. Oh, man. That's sad. Kevin White. It genuinely is sad. I'm not, I mean, that was to be funny, but Kevin White seems cursed in the NFL. Yeah, his body has betrayed him. Broken collarbone, season-ending surgery. Which is strange, because a collarbone is not usually a season-ending.

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situation. I mean, it's just the bone has to heal. But if he actually has to have a surgery on it, I mean, that's done deal. That's insane. Does another team give him a shot at year four? I mean, I'm just saying like he still, you still have never seen him on the field. Yeah, I doubt it. I doubt it. I doubt it. So is there, does that give you more confidence in somebody else on that wide receiver core? I mean, this is like the last of the Mohicans is Kindle Wright. I mean.

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The last. I'm just saying the last. Yeah. There's just nobody left. Bellamy. Yeah, Bellamy. Bellamy might be a good thing. Maybe the tight ends get more targets. Maybe. I mean, Zach Miller goes down. Not like White's ever had a target share that mattered. All right. C.J. Fedorowitz suffered a concussion. Tom Savage was benched in favor of Deshawn Watson Watson set to start week two. And this is, it's the right move. But Bill O'Brien, this guy.

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and his pulling of quarterbacks is absolutely ridiculous. I mean, this is the exact same thing happened last year. With Mallet? And you can go back two years ago to Brian. It's just with Brian Hoyer. I mean, make up your mind, man. You have to. You spend all of camp saying this is for sure the guy and then one half comes in. And pumping him up and you're like, okay, he had a bad half. Well, you're not the quarterback anymore. I think what it says is he's got, he can't make the correct decision in camp.

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That's a fair point, but you have to stay the course to see if someone can do it because maybe it was just, maybe it was just a really, really bad half for Tom Savage. I mean, it's not. Deshaun Watson is the correct choice. They had to take Tom Savage to the sideline on a cart. That is how immobile he is. So they, I mean.

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You saw the offense actually move when Watson came in. This is good news for DeAndre Hopkins. Lamar Miller. If you asked me for a target, I actually want to go after DeAndi Hopkins. His talent is so superior to the majority of NFL wide receivers. He just needs a shot. This game win as bad as it could possibly go for Houston. He still had a fantasy relevant game. Because he scored. Yeah. What was his total stat line? If you look at what Hopkins and what Lamar Miller had done.

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In the majority of the game, when Watson, or when Savage played, it was nothing. And then Watson comes in and all of a sudden they're moving the ball. Seven for 55 in a touchdown. I'll take it. I'll take it. Yeah, I mean, yeah, but seven for 55 would be on a nightmare game against a really good defense. Sure. I just think we, with the quick question of which bust is worth going after. Yeah, he's not a bus. No, I'm talking, Lamar Miller with, it looked terrible. But as soon as Watson came in,

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Well, Mueller started getting chunk plays because they could do the read option. I think he had about 96 combined yards through the air and ground. I mean, man, I feel like we could talk for hours about all these situations, but I'm going to finish the news out here before we get into the stud muffins. Ezekiel Elliott, the NFL has appealed Zeke's injunction. Appeal. The appeal.

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Of the appeal. Lucky, if the NFL wins the appeal, then the injunction is thrown out, and Ezekiel, L.A. has to immediately start serving a suspension. Climb on the roller coaster, close your eyes, put your hands in the air, and just see what happens. And Jordan Reed, the news came out, which is so bizarre. I mean, we knew Jordan Reed was dealing with a toe injury. And then they decided to drop on us right before NFL game action. Oh, Jordan Reed's dealing with a fractured big toe. Well, thanks. Thanks for that update.

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It's ridiculous, but he looked okay. Does that news change your opinion of Jordan Reed in a situation? If you thought it was just orthotics. He still looked, he still looked okay. The thing is just five for 36. Over time, because you know that they're juicing up that toe, so he can't feel a thing. Over time, does it start to take its toll on Jordan Reed? Yeah, of course it does.

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I mean, I'm just saying from history, it's like he is not one to deal well with injuries and to recover quickly. So I think you have to watch out for that. Hopefully, O'Dow Beckham Jr. can recover quickly. It seems like the Giants desperately need him. I was going to say, if I'm Beckham, I'm not recovered until that contract comes in. It's like, yeah, I'm pretty important to this team.

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Oh, yes. Drafts against each other. Those didn't work out well. Now, so here's the deal. I know the lay. I'll give you the lay of the land. Well, I want it. We never made a confirmation about this. Are we going total points of the two or is no, no, no, no, no. There's two losers. There's two losers, which are both going to be mean. Not necessarily. Yeah. Here's the situation.

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In one of ours, it's over. Jason lost far and away because he had Lev Bell and he had Greg Olson and Russell Wilson. And so Mike and I, Jason will get, he has to eat something terrible that we pick for him. I'm eating healthy food and whatever I want. In the second one, I'm safe. You two are fighting tonight. And in the second one, it's Michael Thomas versus Melvin Gordon tonight. And essentially, I think I'm behind though. I have to make up ground. Mike is down.

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Eight points, and Mike has Michael Thomas, and Jason has Melvin Gordon. So there's a chance Mike has to eat something terrible this week, too. So that's just a summary of that situation. Can I use my first place to wipe out the bad? We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. This week's fantasy stud muffins. All right, let's start at the quarterback position. We didn't give him his due on Thursday. That's true. That's my mistake. Alex Smith.

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was an absolute stud muffin, 368 and 4, 28 for 35 against the Patriots who have a couple of great corners. I mean, Butler, Gilmore, and Alex Smith's next three matchups, Philadelphia, the Chargers in Washington. Does Alex Smith, do you ride the 46-point fantasy day? If you were somebody that had, I don't know, Dalton, Palmer, do you start looking at Alex Smith for next week against Philadelphia? Quite possibly. And Darby's out.

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Quite possibly. I have not dove into who I want to stream besides you target whoever's playing the Colts, but that's Palmer. And we already have this conversation in the studio like, do you play Palmer? So Alex Smith moving forward, this is why he is the perfect streaming option because he's just, he's available and he can have huge games. Yeah. He can have huge games, I agree. But that doesn't mean that he will continue. If you look at last year, we're so, you know,

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Quick to forget. Last year, week one, Alex Smith was the third best quarterback and had an unbelievable first week and then, you know, tailored off the face of the map and you didn't really care about using him. I don't know. Taylor? He tapered. Did he make a suit? So I'm not trusting. And he got out of town. I am not trusting Alex Smith as some great option. He is still a streamable option. That's an important warning.

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Unexpected. Matthew Stafford against Arizona's secondary lit it up. The second half was, welcome to the Lions game plan. Look atrocious for the first half of a game. Come back in the fourth quarter. Eight of their last nine wins have been fourth quarter comebacks. And Matthew Stafford took care of business on the back of some smooth routes. Those routes. I'm going to hold off on the drop until we get to wide receivers.

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