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Fantasy Football 2017 - WR Rankings Pt. 2 + BIG Zeke News

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Fantasy Football 2017 - WR Rankings Pt. 2 + BIG Zeke News

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just goading him. Like, you want a handshake? Like, let's go. Yeah, that was pretty cool. All right, 14 and 15 on a wide receiver rankings. Alshan Jeffrey, Terrell Pryorier, two hotly debated players, two players that we are in different places on. Alshan, I got him at 20. Jason and Mike, you got him at 15. Mine has to do with the mix of moving teams, something that is not always a success in fantasy football or in...

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NFL football for a big-time high receiver. You move a team. You're in a different system, different quarterback, and he's got the- You're going to need to hit a button. And he's got the injury ready. You're going to need to hit a button. Do we got it? Breaking news. Adam Schaefter is saying that Cowboys running back, Ezekiel Elliott is expected to appeal his six-game suspension per sources. So he has three days to appeal.

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What is a six-game band? Brooks. I know you are a Cowboys fan. He's not only a Cowboys fan. Brooks has Zeke in our Dynasty League. You're in my division, aren't you? Maybe. So here's the deal. He can appeal. It's possible that we've seen suspensions of this nature be appealed and brought down to four games. But this, that looks like, like that's the way to approach it.

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A lock of missing four games. Yeah, a lock of missing four games, but we also have to keep in mind, this appeal, because it's a six-game ban, is super scary to me because what happens is, let's say, he appeals, and it takes them half the season to come back with their... It shouldn't, but that's in the realm of possibility. It shouldn't have taken this long. We'll know a lot more soon, so we'll be able to talk more about that on Monday as well. But breaking news on the show.

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Yeah, that's Mike, Jason, right now, if it's six games, both of you hadn't adjusted him yet, where does he go? Six games. Because he's going to go, they'll probably go down up for a month. I mean, he's probably stay where he's at. I haven't been eight. No, he's going to be lower than that for me. Uh, uh,

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Probably a third round. That's exactly what I think. I mean, I'm going to take some time, you know, after the show. Yeah, this is just gut reaction. Yeah, it takes some time after the show, really crunch some numbers and see different outcomes. And Monday, we'll be able to speak to it with clarity and a direction. But right now, my instinct says third round is probably where I would, man, that stinks. Well, hey, Zeke.

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Get it together. Wake up call, man. Get it together. Wake up call is right. You don't get to do whatever you want and just play. Yeah, there's some things you don't mess around with. And this is one of those things. If you're on the clock in any of the play draft leagues, you go grab Derek Fadden immediately. Unbelievable. All right. Back to Alshan, guys. I do like Carson Wentz. I think you could surprise people this year. He looked good yesterday. He did. And Alshan is a player that has, look, massive impact potential.

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But because, again, I think in this offseason, now he's back already, but he's already had another soft tissue type of issue. There's too much pause for me. I just, here's the thing. Maybe he's, maybe he's good. Maybe he's a good fantasy football wide receiver for your team. I don't want to deal with it. There are some players you don't want to mess. I don't want to deal with the, I'm going to have excitement for Al Sean Jeffrey, and then he's going to come up lame in practice.

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And then I'm going to wonder if I can play him on Sunday. And I'm going to wonder if he's 100% back for the next game or if he's going to be a decoy out there. I don't want to do it. Yeah, I don't blame you. When I look at the rankings, you've got him 20. I've got him 15 along with Mike. I think to myself, man, I really don't like Alshan at 15 for me. And it's not because he doesn't have the ability to do that. I believe.

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in Carson Wins this coming season. I'm buying more and more into his ability to allow Alshan to be a true wide receiver one. And I'm speaking of a fantasy wide receiver one. But I, you know, with Alshan, I can't, I can't just think, okay, well, he's going to play 16 games.

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And his ceiling to me is not say what Sammy Watkins ceiling. They both, you know, have injury risks. But I don't think Alshan is a true world beater. He's just a really, you know, good receiver. He's the player who when he's too far down in your rankings, you're like, oh, man, I definitely need to move him up. And when he's too hot, and then you move him up and you're like, man, I got to move him down. That's weird you say that's exactly how it's been for me this whole office. Yeah, I moved him up to like 13 at one point in the early off season. He had basically.

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800 yards and 11 games, though. He didn't score, though. Yeah, I know. But we know that touchdowns can come and go, but he's... Historically, he's been fine at scoring. He is... He is so big, man. He's so big. He has a good wide receiver. Here's the nice thing about Alshan, though. Let me speak to the... Let me make the case for Al Sean Jeffrey. He has come over and he's taken a prove-it deal with an up-and-coming...

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with an up-and-coming quarterback. Allegedly turned down more money to go to play for Minnesota. He wants to prove that he is an elite wide receiver. Right now, he's in the fourth round. Okay, so when we're talking to draft value, he's, you know, he's not bad for where he's going in your draft. I would be super happy to have Alshan in the fourth round. And if he stays healthy, I think,

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he's got a floor that is probably around, you know, wide receiver 18. So there is, there's enough there to like. But as someone that owned Alshan, you know, last year in a lot of different places and had to deal with the constant injuries, his to me are, you know, the nice thing with the Sammy injury is that he dealt with this foot problem forever and I believe it's fixed. You don't really fix soft tissue issues. I mean, they heal.

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And then hopefully you just don't run into them again. You hope to find new training habits that prevent them. That's all you can do. Right. But we've already seen it this off-season. Carson went to the fifth most attempts last year. I mean, you don't want it on that volume? I'm like Jason said, if the value's there late fourth round, if he sneaks down that far, maybe I take the chance. But it's just a little bit.

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Yeah, I get it. I'd rather have the next guy in this list. Let's put it that way. Terrell Pryor, number 15, I have him at 10. He's a top 10 wide receiver for me. Guys, we've talked about him a lot on the show. Last year, he was a wide receiver. One or two in 50% of his games, the raw ability of Terrell Pryor, the long history of getting from where he was as a quarterback to where he is now. Now he's in a system. Look, this is not a coincidence that he's in Washington.

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Hugh Jackson and Jay Gruden were coaches that watched him work out years ago and gave him opportunity. Jay Gruden brought him in. Hugh Jackson had him first. Now he's with another coach that believes in him and the ability that he has. And when you look at what Washington could not do last season, they couldn't score in the red zone. They didn't have size. Now you have not only prior, but you have Doxon who has size if he's healthy.

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The offense should be good. Pryor's going to do the things that he's great at, which is create separation with super long arms and be a difference maker in the red zone. As a believer in Kurt Cousins, as a believer in trial prior, the 306 price point right now in drafts, I love it. Give him to me. He was sensational last year, and he was a deep threat.

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like Andy said, he was able to be a wide receiver one or two, 50% of the time. And that's with some of the worst downfield targets of all of last year coming from the Brown's quarterback. Now he goes to Kirk Cousins, who's one of the best, most accurate deep ball throwers in the league. If you want to put that, say, well, that's on D. Jacks and Jordan Reed, that's the wide receivers are doing it. But the numbers are there for Kurt Cousins that say he's a great deep thrower. So.

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I'm with you that the ceiling of Pharrell Pryor is, I mean, the ceiling can't hold us. Oh, yeah, I can. Yeah, it can't. Is that your, I didn't say your ranking because I don't know if that's where you won him. Jay, is that where he belongs? I thought you were getting that. Terrell Pryor. Yes, I was. What happened to that fire? He's 25. I moved him up to 25. I thought you got caught up in. No, the Trial prayer.

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No, he didn't get caught up in the, I, I didn't get caught up enough to be swept away to Oz like you guys have with your tornado. No, here is the, we're not in Washington anymore. Oh, the problem is we are in Washington. You should have said we're not in Cleveland anymore. So that's what you said. Oh, that was, you missed it. Mike. I know. All right. Let me make the case here. Well, no, we got to move on because I've ruined the joke. Go ahead, Jay. All right. So. Trail, Brian. Last year.

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You had a great offense. Kirk Cousin was a, you know, a top. He was talking about Cleveland for a second. No, he was, he was, you know, a top 12 quarterback in fantasy. And the problem is you had back to back to back in the rankings, Deshawn Jackson, Jameson, and Pierre Garcone, because he spreads the ball around. Kirk Cousins is not a guy.

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to target that number one wide receiver. And if he is, it's going to be Jordan Reed. You got Jordan Reed. You got Jameson Crowder. You've got Josh Doxon. You've got Terrell Pryor. Now, if Terrell Pryor becomes the one B to Jordan Reed, then I think he has the chance to, you know, have a decent season. I don't see...

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the possibility of a top 10. I mean, you've got them at 10, and I'm glad we've got a little bit of a polar opinion here. I'm interested to see who's going to win out, but when I just look at all the volume and how it has to split up, it would just have to go so much towards Terrell Pryor. I don't know what's happening. I don't know which episode to tune into. I mean... I thought you were rising. I know. This is the most confusing thing in the world because it's like...

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I think there are four episodes that I could find where half the time you're high on him and the other half of the time you're telling us to be quiet. By the way, I am on the clock in best ball, but I already have Jeremy. Oh, all right. So here, just to clear it up because, you know, you might be new to the fantasy footballers and you haven't been tracking along. And sometimes we assume, okay, you've, you've heard previous episodes. You knew or know where my opinion was at. I had Terrell prior.

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