Week 2 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, Spicy Toes - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/15

where I'd be out as well. He's going, I mean, they had so many targets. Yep. I believe in, I believe in Hein. I think like 17 targets to the running back position. Yeah, sounds about it right. Sounds about. Sounds about rivers. Sounds about rivers. And they have Minnesota next week, then the Jets, then Chicago. Other names, I'm going to bring them up. Are you interested? Jerich McKinnon. Not really. Mildly. Frank Gore, San Francisco, Indianapolis, Denver. No. I.

What if you're in a 35 and over league? Age-wise. If you're in on a not joke. Wait, the players or the fantasy managers? Who's 35 here? In a not-joking way. If you're in a 14-team league, a deeper league, one that's, you know, more difficult and you've got to scratch and claw your way to a third flex spot start, then, yeah, Frank Gore will get work. Yes, he will. Adrian Peterson.

will get work. Peyton Barber will get work. Those are players. Do you want Peyton Barber or Frank Gore? Do you want Peyton Barber and is 17 for 29 or Frank Gore? I would rather have Frank Gore. But I would probably take Adrian Peterson over either of that. I was about to ask you. You can start Adrian Peterson this week. Can you not? I think so. Green Bay is a pretty good defense. So it's not, I don't love the matchup for any one of these guys. Malcolm Brown or AP this week.

Malcolm Brown. Okay. That's where I sit too. He got some passing game work. I expect them to be on the goal line more often than Detroit is. Yes. Okay. Anybody else who want to talk about a running back? Chase Edmonds. He's drafted a lot, but he's still available and a lot of leagues needs to be picked up. Looked great this last week. And we've already seen Drake in a walking boot. And he had a touchdown. So we'll see if the... We've seen him in a walking boot this week?

Well, no, we've already seen him. Chase looked great this week. Very fashionable. Chase Edmonds looked great this week was what I was saying. And Kenyon Drake, we've already seen in a walking boot this year. Yeah, the Arizona running back is super valuable. I thought that was breaking news for a second. Oh, no, no. What are we talking about here? I'm with you. Chase Edmonds needs to be on a bench. I don't think you can actually start him. He got.

Some work, but not startable stuff. In this offense, they like to throw the football to the running back. They're good offense. I don't know if the gap between starting a Kareem Hunt and starting a Chase Edmonds is very big. Sure. I mean, you can get production out of both of them. Edmonds has a nose for the end zone. I'm with you. All right, tight ends. Drop candidates from Twitter and Instagram, Hayden. No. Chris Herndon. Nope. No, I would not drop Herndon. He was targeted.

I drop all jets. No, not really. Evan Ingram. No. He started the game exactly how his career was. Overt, ugly drop. He'll be targeted, and I don't think he's going to be consistent. He may not be. He also had a big reception callback on an OPI. You got to remember it's about who you're dropping them for. Would you drop Evan Ingram for Noah Fant after last night's 5 for 81 and 1 on 6 targets? Yep.

That changed real quick. You're in. You're right on the Noah Fantastic. I don't know if it's the regret. I drafted Evan Ingram in our League of Record. I kind of went against my own rankings where I've been very high on Jonu and Noah Fant and then I took Evan Ingram and then this week happened.

So maybe it's a little bit of that, but I believe Noah Fant. I believe what I saw in camp, what I saw in week one, I think he has the talent, and they're going to involve him even after Cortland Sutton is back. So Fant to me is someone I would certainly pick up, but I don't think he's available in most of your leagues. See the number one ad, or are you in on Dallas, God, or Johnny Smith, Mike? If he was there, if I lost Blake Jarrow and Noah Fant would be the number one guy, and I would be super aggressive to...

go and get him as well. Looking at him as a long-term tight-in starter. Yeah. Dallas Goddard had the big week, 8 for 101 and 1. Mike, you mentioned it yesterday. The vibes are not great with Zach Ertz and the contract situation. His leverage is not like other tight-ins. I mean, Dallas Goddard is a very good pass-catching tight-in. He was in on 79% of snaps. Is he a must add if you're... Wow, 79. Yeah.

Okay, seeing the 79%, yeah, that's very, very intriguing. Because, you know, last year it was Goddard would come through with the touchdown, and that's kind of what it was. It was touchdown or bust, but he wasn't really a full-time player. But if he's playing on 80% of the snaps, then Dallas Goddard is a weekly start. Yeah, this could be the first time we've seen since Gronk and Hernandez, where two tight ends from the same team are utilized in a way where you can actually start both.

each week. I think Goddard should be rostered. There was a report yesterday that Deshaun Jackson's snaps were being limited and that Doug Peterson said in future weeks they're going to go northward. Did he use the word northward? No, I said that. Oh. Where is north? He is actually a great, a great name to bring up, Andy, because I'm shocked that he wasn't in the should I drop Deshawn Jackson group. A lot of people disappointed because he wasn't just sitting on the bench.

The matchup looked appropriate to start. The process was there, and I still believe right. And he was in the lineup and disappointed people. So they want to drop him. I would not drop Deshaun Jackson. All right. And then so if I were putting them in order right now, I would go Noah Fant one. Then it gets more difficult. Hawkinson had a nice week one like he did last year. But they need pass catching. I mean, without Kenny Galladay out there,

They look like a mess. Yeah, the parallels are wild here. Noah Fant, T.J. Hawkinson, first round wide receivers, same college team, big week ones because the number one wide receiver for their teams were both out. This is neither here nor there, but it's just blowing my mind right now. And then, so Hawkinson got her. Eric Ebron, I think he needs to prove it before he needed to put him back on a roster. I'm out.

Apparently, Kyle the Borgogan dug up an old slack message that I had sent in early August about Logan Thomas. Logan Thomas was four for 37 and one on eight targets. Eight targets. Yes, it's very interesting. And back then I said there's no pass catchers outside of Terry McLaurin, which still seemed very true in week one.

If you don't know who this is, that's Logan Thomas, the quarterback from the Arizona Cardinals, who is now playing tight end for Washington. Yes, both of those are true. He was a tight end in Buffalo as well, but he has an opportunity because he's an athlete. He also plays against two next week. Arizona. Arizona, which I don't think is going to be as bad as in years past. I will say J.J. Zacharison thinks that Logan Thomas will be a top 10 tight end remainder of the season because the past catching options are.

They're not there outside of McLaren. Eight targets in week one is very impressive. Let's circle back to Jono Smith from the Tennessee Titans. He came down with a touchdown. He had seven targets. Now, he's tough to decipher because, like we said, at the beginning of the show, 40 plus targets or attempts from Ryan Tannenhill is not happening on a weekly basis. Jason, you're the big John new guy. Where does he rank?

For the waiver wire pickups for you. Is he near the top? Yeah. I mean, I think he's probably in my top four or so. I would go Fant, Hawkinson, Goddard, Jonu Smith. That would be my order for the top of the waivers. Chris Heron would probably be higher than Janu. Yeah, Johnu was, it was Johnny Smith last night. I mean, he's a very dynamic athlete.

And it's nice to know you have a tight end you can start. I mean, there's a difference between hoping for one touchdown or I think he'll be involved. It's just... I think he'll get enough targets to be relevant and he has the ability to have a breakaway touchdown. Right. If he gets four targets in a game, one of those targets can result in an 80-yard touchdown. There's a handful of those type of tight ends. What about Jimmy Grandpa?

Oh, man, Jimmy Grandpa. Where did this come from? Whoa. Wait, hold on. Where's the brain cells? It was right there. It was the Borgogan. How has this not happened before now? It's right there. I don't know. This name is Jimmy Graham. Pa. Come on. You're mad at yourself right now. I am furious with myself. We have let the fucking run down. We could have done this two years ago. We eat all low-hanging fruit, and here this was.

It's so ripe now, though. I mean, it's a little rotten. It's a little rot. But I'm in, Jimmy Grandpa. I love that Jimmy Grandpa is at least three years younger than all of us. I mean, if not more. But he had a touchdown. He was 80% of snaps. Jimmy Grandpa or Johnny Smith? Man. And I hear Judge Diamati just laughing over there. He really likes it. I.

I think Jimmy, grandpa is someone you can look to, but I would still take Johnny Smith ahead. I think I'd grab the grandpa. He's going to have so many goal line targets. Like when they don't, when they get sneaky, when Matt Nagy gets sneaky and doesn't hand it off around the goal line? This is a perfect time to bring up this point because this is not, like this isn't breaking news. I don't know what to make of this because we've seen this behavior from players before.

Are you guys aware? Alan Robinson, superstar wide receiver for the Chicago Bears, has stripped all bears things from his social media. No, I was unaware. Well, and he already put the eyeballs up about a week or two ago after the announcement of Mitch Trubisky over Nick Foles. Right. So he has... He's in a contract year, right? He is in a contract year. He is, I mean, this is, we are strolling down there to street. Would you put Anthony Miller back in the wide receiver pickups? No, I would not.

I wouldn't. Because if something happens there with... I don't think something's going to happen where Alan Robinson doesn't play. I'm just saying is he disgruntled and... Yes, I'm sure he is. He wants to get paid. He wants to have security in a contract. Obviously, that's not coming together in the timeline he wants, but he's going to be out there. And if anything, he needs to prove... He's so good.

Yeah, he doesn't be to prove anything, Jason, stop it. He's amazing. No, Jason's making the contractual point that he needs to go out there and establish himself for a future contract, which is true. I mean, you can't go out there and be disgruntled for half the year, have half the stat line and then ask for big money. Yeah. Defensive streaming options for this week, one that's out there everywhere, Cleveland, you know, nobody had them because they played Baltimore, but they get to face Joe Burrow on Thursday night football. Yep.

They will hit him. They will cause a turnover or two. They are not going to cost you much to pick up. Yeah, I'm in on that. The Los Angeles Rams against that Philadelphia offensive line. Aaron Donald, I've heard, I have my sources that the Rams are, they're not even going to play a line.

Just Donald? Just Aaron Donald. And then they're going to drop everybody else into coverage. Wow. I would bet it could work. Sometimes. I think he could make enough pressure with that many DBs out there. Sometimes his peripheral defensive linemen, they just said Indian style during the play and just relax. I also think Arizona against the Washington football team is.

Not a bad play. You've got to remember, even though the defense was terrible last year, they didn't have Patrick Peterson for half the year. Then half of the time they had him, he was not in game shape. They got better at the end of the year. They added Isaiah Simmons, added a bunch to the D line against, you know, D-Haskins. I think Arizona is a fine play. Arizona is going to win that game by 25 points. I don't agree with that line. I'm just putting that on the record. But.

Mike approved. That was the computer. That had nothing to do with me. You ran it against the great sports almanac and it came true. How about Kansas City against the Los Angeles charges who was terrible? Yes. But if Kansas City's defense was not already rostered, please pick them up. That'll be what is the like cap on points for Los Angeles with Tyra Taylor at quarterback right now? I would say.

21. That's like the cap. Now, what number, in fact, is 21? Oh, with the, you came in with a CH there. Oh, yeah, 20. 20. 20. Oh, I did not catch that. I had no idea what you were talking about. 55. 55. All right, let's talk streamers. Full stream ahead. All right. If you're new to the show, each and every Tuesday on the waiver episode, we like to give you a streaming quarterback candidate. We give it to you early.