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Fantasy Football 2018 - NFL Draft Breakdown: NFC Winners & Losers

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what you're looking at, but you take Best Available Player, too. And that was an opportunity to do that. Was this just to get at the Dallas Cowboys? Like, this was just a pick to keep them away? I've also heard that Jerry Jones was already on the phone with their draft pick, and it wasn't. So they weren't actually going after Goddard. I mean, it made for a really fun story. I have, Philly Johnson. We talked about it. In my opinion, I genuinely think that this is a.

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I have Dallas Gotter as a loser here because to me, he was one of the higher draft picks, and I just bypassed him in the third round of our dynasty startup draft because, you know, best case scenario, he comes in and plays the Trey Burton role well. But if Zach Hertz, who just got a long-term contract, is not injured.

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Dallas Goddard is not going to be fantasy relevant. And that stinks because I think he's a really talented player. Eertz is under contract until 2022. And they picked up another tight end in free agency already to replace Burton. So it was a strange pick. He's a great player. And if they can get him involved, pay attention. Didn't we see multiple teams in this draft, Baltimore. Baltimore took two. That's what I mean. There were multiple teams that kind of went that two tight end approach. Baltimore took two very talented ones.

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You know, there's utilization there. There's flexibility. The question for me is, mismatches. Trey Burton, if you take out the two games where he replaced Zacherts, because you can't count that usage, he had 18 targets through the season. So spending a second round pick on a pass catching tight end. It's just surprising.

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I'm sure they know what they're doing, but it was. Here's what's great. There's so many rumors about that into the first round was going to be Geis. What's the running back? They're going to replace. They could have drafted Geis. Multiple times. Oh, I'm just saying. Never mind. Just once. Right here. They could have drafted Darius Geis for the backfield and they didn't. Yeah. So I think a big winner is J. Ajai, Corey Clement, and the re-signed Darren Sproles. I agree. You have those three guys.

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back and no one else coming to, you know, LaGarrette Blount is gone and no one is coming in to replace him. I think Corey Clement's going to end up being one of the better values in redraft leagues. I don't disagree. There's no way that Jay J. Jai is not being drafted well ahead of him, and there's a good chance in my opinion that Corey Clement has as much fantasy production. He's a great dynasty target. I think he's going to end up on our ultimate draft kit value list. It could. It's possible. None of Danelle Pumfrey has anything to say about it.

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Oh, yeah, you and your San Diego State guys. I mean, let's move on. Redskins. All right, they did grab Darius guys. They got him in the second round late. 27th pick of the second, uh, 27th pick of the second round, right? Yes. And he is, he's still my number two. Really? Rookie, yeah. I understand the fall, but he fell to a perfect spot. Uh,

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I get not 100% perfect because Chris Thompson's there. Chris Thompson is the third down guy, but you spend a second round draft capital on this bruiser for that team that wants to run and funnel the offense through the running back. I love it. I still think that he is, I think he's an incredible player and it's going to be a stud. It was a great landing spot. I mean, it's a guy, it's a spot that last year we were hoping someone. Yeah. Their backfield, if you remember last year, it was like thin ice. I mean, you had injuries.

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P. Ryan had a game or two where he looked okay, but he struggled with things like fumbles, with what, two different injuries during the year. Then they lost, even their backups behind them, they lost. They need somebody to come in and stabilize it, and Gice has the ability to do that. I think it obviously, I mean, P. Ryan's a big loser in this situation. Yeah, he was. P. Ryan and Rob Kelly are likely finished. And Chris Thompson, he's going to have his role.

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But they've already made it clear that they're not going to overutilize him. And if you have a capable pass catcher in Geis, it doesn't help him. It doesn't help Chris Thompson. I don't, I've never viewed Geis really as a very capable pass catcher. I think this is actually good news for Chris Thompson because defenses are going to be worn down from a Geist type player. And then you bring in that third down pass catching. I don't think Geis will eat into Chris Thompson's role.

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They did not address the wide receiver position in the draft until it's late seventh round. But essentially Crowder, Richardson, Dawson have it on lockdown. Yeah, they're pretty safe. But I did want to mention just briefly the receiver, Trey Quinn, who started his collegiate career at LSU before moving over to SMU. But he dominated. Dominated at SMU. This is... You and your seventh rounders, just like the fourth seventh rounder you keep bringing up. I just want people to be aware of the name. I'm not saying he is going to be a thing.

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But his production profile is incredible for what he did last year. You had him high in your collegiate model? Yeah, I mean, 114 receptions over 1,200 yards, 13 touchdowns. That's some production. He beast it. But it's a long shot for him to do anything. Cardinals. Let's move over to the NFC West. Talk about our hometown. Our Cardinals, eh? I'm glad some people on YouTube gave you a grief you deserved for your flip-flopping.

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You're back and forth. Now, according to Mike, it wasn't flip-flop, and it was a con the whole time. Sometimes you got to do what you got to do. See, if it was a con, though, then he would answer this next question differently. How much do you love Kirk Cousins and the Minnesota Vikings? Oh, I still love him. Yeah. All right. So it was a con that came easy to him. Yeah. It was the way it goes. All right, the Cardinals, they traded up. They got a bargain. They moved up. They grabbed Josh Rosen. And look, for the long-term.

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viability of this offense for somebody like David Johnson, who much like, you know, Lev Bell or Antonio Brown in Pittsburgh, where we want to look to the future, or maybe you look at O'Dell Buckham Jr. in New York, and you say, hey, what does it look like three, four years down the line? You know, having Josh Rosen there to compete with Sam Bradford, it helps. He's supposed to be the franchise quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals. And then they added Christian Kirk, one of the most electric players in college football.

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in the second round, a player that I think walks into the building and makes an immediate day one offensive impact on the Arizona Cardinals in the return game, in the screen game. You can run reverses with him. You can play them inside, although Larry Fitzgerald's got that on lockdown. The interesting thing for Christian Kirk is this season with Larry Fitzgerald back manning the slot. Christian Kirk was primarily a slot receiver in college, so it will be interesting to see.

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For fantasy purposes, this season, if he can translate at all to the outside. What's really cool to me about this is, you know, Christian Kirk, when he was talking about how he wanted the opportunity to go outside. That was a desire. And when you want, I know he didn't run out of the outside a lot, but when he did in college.

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He was great. He didn't look like he couldn't do it. So I think this year with Larry in the slot, it does give Christian Kirk an opportunity. I agree with you, Andy. David Johnson's a big longer-term winner in Dynasty because the first four picks for the Cardinals, you could tell what their focus was, look, we've got a defense that can compete. Our offense is missing a lot of pieces. So when you go out and you grab Josh Rosen.

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Christian Kirk followed up with a good sinner in Mason Cole and then another running back behind him and Chase Edmonds. You're saying we need to build a little bit more of the future on offense. I don't know that there were any big losers other than to me. Chad Williams, to me, because Christian Kirk comes in and I have. Maybe. The way I have this team projected and I did my initial cardinal projections yesterday is I have Christian Kirk with the second most receptions on the roster.

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And so when you have a player that's going to come in, and at least by my estimation, I have him about 61 receptions, I think. But it hurts Chad Williams, who's very unproven. You have J.J. Nelson. You have Bryce Butler, who's been signed. I don't know if you know this, but Christian Kirk is also unproven. Ooh, them fighting words are just me, brought it out. Yeah, but he had a year. What I'm saying is, Chad Williams had a year to prove himself already. Fair. And he still stands unproven. Yes. Therefore, he has to do it. I mean.

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That doesn't generally work well with rookie wide receivers to have, you know, Devante Parker comes to mind and these other players. So I don't look at, Chad Williams, I looked at with a more filled, you know, a glass half full before an ounce of glass half empty. That's fine. Chase Edmonds is the backup for the Arizona Cardinals at the running back position. He was a mega producer at Ford, shortened season this past year, but his numbers are.

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You like him more than Elijah Penny as a backup to David Johnson? Yes, I do. All right, let's move on. Rams. All right, the Rams, well, they had a lot of picks by quantity, but they didn't have any early. So their first pick was the 25th pick of the third round. They went offensive tackle. In the fourth round, they went center, solidifying the depth and play of the offensive line. Winners and losers from this roster, though, I mean, other than John Kelly, which we can talk about in the sixth round, you know,

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Yeah, John Kelly is a loser here. And I like John Kelly. I said that earlier in the show. He was one of the guys. I was really excited to see where he landed. When you go to the sixth round, first of all, it doesn't matter where you landed. You have far fewer opportunities. If you don't prove yourself every second, then you don't get a chance to pick yourself back up. You were not heavy capital. But then, like, for instance, in our fantasy dynasty rookie draft that we just completed.

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this morning, I had the opportunity to draft John Kelly in the third round, and I'm just between him and some other guys. And I'm like, okay, let's say, I believe that if Todd Gurley goes down, John Kelly's going to be able to step in and be a very good producer. But then he goes, he might not even have that job. He goes back to nothing if Todd Gurley's back. He's a handcuff. It's not even a job he could ever win. So to me, he's a huge loser from pre-draft.

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The Rams offense stays the same, though. I mean, it is what you saw last year just with the swap of the wide receiver position. Yeah, as you say, they've already gone out and made a splash with Brandon Cook. And yeah, and Malcolm Brown is still there and showed well behind Gurley. They don't just hand, they don't hand backup jobs to six-round picks. You have to earn that job. So he doesn't even have, when I was looking at, I was looking at trading deep into our dynasty draft because I'm the Gurley owner.

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That's the person targeting John Kelly. Yes, exactly. Is, hey, maybe that's the handcuff. Anything else from that roster, Mike, that you want to address? No. 49ers. All right. A little more interesting here. First round, grabbing an offensive tackle. Going to keep Jimmy G. As handsome as can be. Keep them upright. You got to protect that face. Keep that face pretty. That face that launched a thousand ships. Yeah, and won, what, five games to end the year. I thought it.

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I thought it was six. Yeah, six and oh, man. Technically five as well. That is true. He won three? He won the last game of the season. Yeah, no, Jimmy G. is the biggest winner here for the Niners. Yeah, Dante Pettis in the second round. Yes, not only did they get the offensive tackle, but they traded up to get Dante Pettis.

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I really like, I watch a lot of film on Dante Pettus post draft. I just took him in our draft because when Kyle Shanahan trades up to get a guy, Pierre Garson is long in the tooth. He's not going to be around playing at a high level for. He's got full on saber tooth tiger. Fangs, they're so long. And I, you know, the opportunity for Pettis having been traded up into the second round to be used in a good system. And that, you know.

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A lot of people thought in free agency the San Francisco 49ers were going to make a big splash because there's an opportunity there. I realize they have Marcus Goodwin slash Greatwin and Pierre Gerson. But there is over the next two or three years, there's a huge opportunity for a wider receiver to step up. And the first guy that's going to get a legitimate crack at it is Dante Pettis, who I liked the film. I do think that the drafting of Dante Pettis does slightly damage some of the fringe pass catchers. Yes.

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San Francisco, the guys that we're kind of looking at and saying, you know, like the tight end position where we've been like, oh, you know, maybe George Kittle has a little bit of life to him. It doesn't help those guys have the opportunity to break out when you spend a second round on a whiteout. Trent Taylor. So, yeah. All right, moving on. Seahawks. Oh, Jason. A penny for your thoughts? Oh. Oh. I still don't believe in, in, look, Rashopinney's going to have every opportunity there. Bad offensive line. Tough division.

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Bad team. Got to stay healthy. Other people, you know, Chris Carson, still there. Yeah. Rashad Penny is not a, to me, he's not a shoe in to be productive. I'd like running backs on really good teams. And I'm not sure that, you know, with good offensive lines. And that argument is completely valid and legitimate, but he will get volume. I mean, Rashad Penny will touch the ball over 300 times.

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