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Week 13 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, Guice Guice Baby

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Which, you know, we were worried about James, about Foles. You had Darnold, and you had, this game was unbelievably windy. I moved Pat Mahomes down a couple of spots. Derek Carr was dead to me. The wind there was just unbelievable. So when you're on those streaming guys, not those Aaron Rogers in bad weather, but when you're on those streaming guys and they've got all of a sudden.

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an extra factor. You know, we're streaming based on good matchups. We're saying it should be easy for them. But if the weather comes in, it makes it difficult, they're probably not good enough to overcome, you know, a new obstacle. Sam Darnold had been the number seven, number seven, and number three quarterback in weeks 10, 11, and 12 heads to Cincinnati and puts up an absolute terrible performance. The Bengals defense is just too good.

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And now you're thrown into question with your confidence for Sam Darnold against Miami next week, which should be an easy smash play. But now you have seen that Cincinnati wasn't. So what are you doing with Sam Darnold? I will play him next week. I will play him as well. And I'll say something like three of his last four games have been really good because it's true. I mean, it was a bad game. But, you know, Miami is a.

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you know, a really good matchup. Obviously, watch the weather if the weather is bad, then maybe pivot. But the matchup's good. He can get it done. And I love the fact that he was using Robbie Anderson this week because the deep threat hopefully is going to help fantasy points come. James Winston. He fumbled, but he didn't throw any interceptions, which meant he didn't throw any touchdown. See, the interceptions are crucial. They're crucial to keep that ratio the same. The touch, yeah, the ratio maintained.

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So what do you do? The performance. You just keep playing. Look, if you watch the game, Tampa Bay dominated. Nick Foles ended up getting benched because the team as a whole was playing so great. They had a defensive score. Peyton Barber had two rushing touchdowns. This was, this was very unfortunate for James because Tampa Bay whooped booty, but James didn't have any touchdowns. And so it killed him for fantasy.

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All right. Nick Foles, we talked about that disappointing performance. I wouldn't be surprised if Gardner got the next start. That'll be interesting. But it will be, yeah, it's going to be, it's the Chargers. So it's at home, but it's against the Chargers. Running backs, Aaron Jones is a problem right now for fantasy owners because he had been absolutely smashing. But then three out of the last four weeks, it's been disappointing.

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averaging about the same amount of fancy points as Jamal Williams is, has Washington and Chicago and then Minnesota. Only 11 carries. He got a touchdown in this game, and then it was called back. I remember. Yeah, my son has Aaron Jones and was very disappointed at eight years old. He wrote him a letter this morning. No, he didn't. Don't do that. Don't do that. But he was bummed out. It hasn't been good.

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Yeah, I still think you start him, you know, coming up here, Washington, Chicago, which is a decent matchup on the ground. I mean, how are you going to bitch Aaron Jones? You've got to have really great options because there aren't, while he has the ability to put up duds, he also has the rare ability to put up a 30 or 40 point week. Not a lot of people can do that. Touchstand distribution. Yeah. I mean, Aaron Rogers threw four touchdowns. They, he took him away from Aaron Jones.

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All right, might as well continue the stink in New York. Lev Bell, 10 for 32. What? Yeah. 10 for 32. I watched him. Woof. I remember third down and 14. And he picked up that first down by a good two or three yards on the ground. How did he finish with 10 for 32? Magic. That I had no, I was unaware of just how bad. Some next level stuff here from Lev Bell. Love Bell was. Holy moly.

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Jonathan Williams, his job may be gone. Well, he only had 14 snaps. Jordan Wilkins, 29 snaps. Naim Hines, 30 snaps, including Heinz getting a goal line touchdown. Jordan Wilkins, 11 for 47, finally back in reality. Yes, he was active last Thursday, but he hadn't practiced, so there was a lot of questions around his availability. Clearly a lot healthier now.

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And then Jonathan Williams just didn't get a lot of work. So you might have just had your one week of Jonathan Williams success. Because a full-time running back for the Colts, like Marlon Mack will be fantastic. But if they go with this timeshare, where it's a three-way time share, then, yeah. We did hear that Marlon Mack is hopeful for week 14. Is he? Yeah, that was the last report I saw. First timeline was hoping to be back by week 14.

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Would you play him in his first week back? I would hope to not play him in his first week back, to be honest. But he is the caliber of running back where you might not have a good enough pivot. I'm not going to pivot down to a Jamal Williams. I lean that I would go his direction with them fighting on the edge of the playoffs. I would. And it's not a leg injury. I mean, it stinks at its hand and he's got to hold onto the ball. That's fair point. If he gets like a good chop in there, maybe it rehearse the hand, but at least his legs are okay.

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Yeah, I guess if you can hold the ball, you're probably okay with Marlon Mack. Devonta Freeman on his way back against New Orleans was 17 for 51. Next week, Carolina, that was the match we were talking about. Carolina just got smoked by Darius Geis and Peterson. I think Freeman's in your lineup. David Johnson, four for 15, two for nine. Who? Yeah. I mean, I guess we were right. It felt weird to say it, but we said you can drop David Johnson.

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before the buy. Chase Edmunds had no touches in this game either. The fact that you had the buy week to rest up, you know, it felt dangerous when we're like, okay, you could drop David Johnson and, you know, not a must drop, but if you need to move on, move on. Because coming off the buy, there was the world where, okay, he's healthy now, and that was the issue. And he comes out and he's the starter. First snap, Drake. Most snaps. Drake. Drake is the starter.

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for the Arizona Cardinals, and David Johnson is a flat-out backup. He's a handcuff now. And I'm not sure. Oh, no. Yeah, I mean, he's the handcuff. And if Drake goes down, I don't know. Anything changed rest away with the back half of the game. He got more snaps, got some receiving work. Drake was garbage time. Drake was not productive, 13 for 31. Any hope? I have no hope. I have, I have zero hope. All right.

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Yeah, Drake stunk. Sonny Michelle, just 10 for 45. Game script was the anti-Soney Michelle game script. How is Philip Lindsay in the busts? I didn't say his name. But no, no, no. He is a bust. He had 58 rushing yards, four receiving yards. But when that game started, this has happened three weeks in a row now. When this game started, every single play was like, oh my word, Philip Lindsay's good. You watched him just.

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tearing up the field, pitter-pattered, like I believe you called him a video game player. Yeah, fantasy points per steps taken, he would be number one. But, I mean, he looked so good, gets off to a- At those Fred Flintstone feet? A strong start. But for some reason, every single week, he can't finish the game with a good fantasy line. They're not a team. Look, if they win games the rest of the way, it's going to be 1714. It's not going to be prolific with Drew Lock and Company.

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It's just not. I mean, Brandon L. and Drew Locke, this is what you're dealing with. Denver's going to have to play defense, kick field goals. And unfortunately, that means very limited goal line opportunities for Philip Lindsay, who did look good. That's the weird part of it. Yeah, he has not looked bad at all. The last few weeks, every time I see him, he looks great, not a great fantasy option. All right, Beckham returned to his three for 29. He wasn't in the stinkers, which I don't know, I feel like he should have been. What's?

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What's your guys is temperature here with Patrick Mahomes, who had 175 yards, one touchdown, but that was coming off of 182 yards and one passing touchdown. No worries. He did get in on the ground, though. So he had two touchdowns in the game. And I have no worries. I brought it up earlier, but the wind there was unfathomable. There was a play where Mahomes was rolling to his right, and he threw the ball, and it was.

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It looked like it had to be 10 yards. It should have been a pick. It was so far from where he was trying to throw the ball to. Yeah, but I know Mike's bringing it up. He's in New England next week. Then he's Denver, divisional game, possibly bad weather. And then he's at Chicago. So the final three weeks of the season you're leaning on, you don't say what you will, last two weeks, 182, 175 yards.

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Basically, I guess the question is, is there any situation that you're pivoting from Patrick Mahomes? Are you just going to put your future in his hands? Sure. If I've got Lamar Jackson, I'm pivoting. I'm staying with Mahomes. Mike, did you have any thoughts there? I mean, I assume that's why you brought that up. I just wanted it just needs to be talked about that Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, I guess he did have the rush touchdown. So his fantasy day was saved. But that's rough, man. We've had a back to back, rough weeks from Patrick Mahomes. Definitely not winning you those weeks. Yeah.

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Beckham 3 for 29 on six targets. That's the eighth time this year that he's been outside the top 36. If you haven't adjusted your expectations by now, you're out of the playoffs, so you have plenty of time to do that. It's crazy how long it has taken the fantasy community to realize that Beckham is not a weekly must start guy. I mean, we have the evidence now. The next two games, sure. Cincinnati, Arizona, you're going to play him.

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You're going to play him in Baltimore? I, you know, I'm not. I'll pivot. It's so compounded, though, but the fact that Jarvis Landry is having a great year. Yeah, because he's the number one wide receiver. I mean, he's the first read. He's targeted better. He's got a better connection with Baker. Jarvis is a guy you should be playing every week, and Odell Beckham is a guy you should be playing in a good matchup. It's just, it's name lock, you know. We're just, take lock. Take lock.

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We're just so enamored by what has happened in the past that we're not realizing what's happening now. You're not wrong. DJ Chark could have been one of the most disappointing players of the entire weekend, just two for 47, had to withstand the quarterback switch over. Don't worry, DJ Chark. You're, maybe. Your Huckleberry is coming back. Maybe. Maybe he is. Maybe he's not. But any concern there? For DJ Chark? Yeah.

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I mean, no, not a concern like I'm pulling DJ Chark out of my lineup. It sucks that he's going to play the Chargers and might get the Casey Hayward treatment, but I'm still playing. All right. Mike Evans, we talked about Chris Godwin. Neither of them scored in this game. Winston didn't throw any touchdowns. Tyreek Hill, we just talked about the win, but he was five for 55. Yeah, that sounded more exciting than his fantasy totals.

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Just throwing that one up to the wind too. You're going to play Tyree going forward. What do you do with Brandon Cooks now? Because he hasn't performed since he's come back. He hasn't performed all year. Look, if Arizona's not the salve for Brandon Cooks, then what is? He only had two targets. Dude, Shark Tank. 19 targets for Robert Woods. I'm out. Two targets for Brandon Cooks. You got to be done with him right now. Yeah. Yeah, I was going to say, I don't, you know, do you bench him? Sure. Do you cut him? Sure. Like, I don't, I don't think he's a must bench. I think he's a guy that should be a, I mean, if.

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If he was out there on the waivers right now, and I'm looking at different options, he might not be the guy I pick up to play on a weekly basis. I might have more confidence in, you know, if Robbie Anderson's on the waivers, I'm picking up Robbie Anderson over Brandon Cooks. The matchup against Seattle this coming week is fine, but then after that, I mean, if you don't want to trust golf, you don't want to trust his third wide receiver. I think it's pretty definitive. That's what he is right now.

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What do you do with Terry McLaurin? Just two for eight on four targets. I mean, if you're talking about rostering somebody, would you rather roster cooks or McLaurin? That's a mean question. That's a really mean. That question makes me sad. Yes, it hurts. Don't ask it. It hurts in my belly. I would rather roster Tara McLaurin. And I just hope that Case Gatim comes back. It's not happening, though. But injury? Dave won.

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They've won two straight games. No, that's not real. I disagree with real facts. Hey, guys, Sammy Watkins' goose. Three targets, zero catches. McCull Hardman had zero targets. So this was 15 total completions by Mahomes on the entire day. But the nice thing is, as you know, you shouldn't play Watkins ever. Yeah.

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That is, that is, it's nice in this day and age to have, have that kind of true confidence. I was a, you know, a Watkins truther. And if I have moved on weeks ago, then everyone should have moved on. Well, his powers were stolen by the. The Lazard King. The Lizard King came through with a big performance. He took everything. Mike, false pretense. You can't have powers stolen that you never had. Okay.

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