Mock Draft Episode + Hidden Facts, Ken You Believe It! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 6/14

a top five guy. Now, I know Jason always postures. See, I think, I think what Jason did was he navigated very craftily. He gave us that pick because he knew that there was a pretty good chance we'd be battling him on this Cream Hunt take of his. And Cream Hunt's still available. Now, if it's me, it's Cordero. We've got... You crazy. You got four wide receivers, two running backs. Cordero can play at both. But Jason knew that we'd have to give him this pick, Mike.

And it is an easy, it is an easy pick for me. If I get this pick, it would be Karim Hunt. I think that he is one of the best values in fantasy this year. I mean, you're talking about a seventh. I think what you just said was my guy. I think that's what you said. He's, you really banging that drum. I hear you and Kyle. Mike, you haven't been at the office. And I don't know, I haven't involved myself in this conflict. But I have heard some raised voices. Yeah.

between Kyle the Borgogan and Jason, and Jason is flabbergasted at Kyle, and Kyle is flabbergasted at Jason. Neither of them can just even comprehend each other's takes. Am I accurate in this? I can comprehend. I just, I had respect for Kyle. I thought he was smart. I thought he was capable as a fantasy analyst. I learned my lesson here this last week or two. I mean, we have a moment. Can I hear?

Just a brief like summation of the two sides of this? I mean, we do have a judge in the house. It really comes to. The judge shares an office. It does come in handy to have a judge in the house. But it really, really started as a feud over the contract situation for Cream Hunt. He has zero dead cap. He can be completely cut for no money lost at all. And so Kyle was highlighting a worry he had for.

my love of Kareem Hunt, that there's some percentage chance. They phase him out. That he's just cut. Yeah, that he's cut. Or traded. And I have told him, now, you're adding the or traded now. Stop it. You said there's some percentage chance he's cut. We're all just hearing this now, Jason. Yeah, this is all fresh evidence. I have said.

that that is tomfoolery. Yes, he has zero dead cap and there is no chance in the world. He will be cut. I'm making an ironclad guarantee. The boom chakalaka from Kyle if that happens. Now, Kyle, you, I mean, you're on microphone here. You can, you can weigh in. What's your, is that a fair summation of your opinion? I just think Jason is a disappointment to this show and his family for this tape. Oh my goodness. Yeah, well, it's an ironclad.

Locked and loaded. Jason Moore guarantee that Kareem Hunt is not cut. It is a zero percent chance. No, of course not because you're smart, Mike. So anyways, that doesn't make sense. None of this goes to Kareem Hunt's fantasy value. That's just a fun squabble we have. But I do think in the seventh round, you're getting a quality running back on a team whose offense might get a quarterback upgrade this year. And he's already been good for fantasy. The last several times we've seen him on the field.

And he's an injury away from being the number one, you know, like a top 10 guy. No, that's true. And I don't mind the pick. Thielen, Garrett Wilson, Cordero finally went, Tony Pollard at the end of the round, a couple more quarterbacks off the board and a bunch of wide receivers. Now, the one thing I like about our team right now, we're back on the clock in the eighth round. Is that we can't draft Zachards?

Well, let's see, Mike, that's good for you. It's good for my soul. Yes, the fact that he, because the perfect thing to happen for our show would be Zach to just keep dropping and dropping. And Mike is just up against it again. I mean, dude, if he's there at 8.8. There is not a 0% chance that you actually contracted coronavirus from your Zachary's take on the show last week. It weakened, it weakens so much. Your immune system was devastated.

Due to the stress hormones emitted from that choice. What I was going to say about our wide receivers is I don't think we have to take another one the rest of the draft. That's how strong they are. Cooper Cup, C.D. Lamb, Mike Williams, Brandon Cooks. From a solidity standpoint, from an upside standpoint, not saying we won't. I'm saying we don't have to, which gives us tons of flexibility for the positions we need. There's only four left anyway. We're sitting here. Rashad Penny's on the board. Still.

He's the locked in pick here for me because you could end up, yeah, because you could end up starting him over J.K. Dobbins, week one. I mean, there is a world where that's true, or week two, and you see that he's got a stranglehold on the backfield. It is not often. You have a chance to have maybe the one on a run first team. Like,

Yeah, he is in strong consideration. I wrote down three names. Okay. How big is the font? It's just normal font. We're in the, we're in the eighth round round font. Okay, eighth round font. I've got Penny as one of those three, but it's between Penny, Chase Edmonds. And Melvin Gordon is more of like a look for him later type of player. To me, it's between Rashad Penny, who we've seen.

dominate whenever he's been given the chance. He's just not been healthy. Granted, he lost his quarterback. So now there's questions with that, and they bring in Ken Walker. So there's questions with that. And then Chase Edmonds, who could be part of a good offense, maybe, if Tua can get it done with Tyreek and they paid him money. And so it's between those two for me. Obviously, our team could use another running back. We're going to have to take a tight-in in a quarterback.

sometime in the next four picks. So we have to do it. Just throwing it out there, reminding you right now I don't see a reason to do it at the tight-in position. I mean, Dawson Knox is there if you wanted a piece of a good offense. Beyond that, it's going to be, you know, the bottom of the tight-in barrel projecting a Gisicki, Gwavenom, Gronkowski. I'd be willing to take that shot. It's looking more like he's coming back. Cole Komet.

Irv Smith. Like, Gronk is a, if we think Grom is coming back. Yeah, just grab him with our last pick. He just seems like such a smart selection because, you know, you're talking about Russell Gage. This is the conversation around the important pieces of this offense is Russell Gage. No disrespect to Russell Gage, but Gronk is going to take your targets.

So let's talk about this real quick because I think a lot of listeners might be saying, well, Dawson Knox is clearly who we should be grabbing here. He has high touchdown upside. You know, he's got Josh Allen. And there is an argument for that. But if you're telling the last pick, you could go four more rounds past this draft and you could still take a last pick on someone like Gerald Everett, who could be a high touchdown guy for Big Erb in his new contract.

you know, playing for the chargers. And so I don't think that the difference there is that large. But the difference between these running backs in this eighth round and who you're going to get in the last pick of the draft is going to be monumental. So I would steer towards running back. Yeah, I think I'm going to take Penny, Mike. You going to be okay with that? I will be okay taking Rashad Penny here because he's the started. But I am shocked because.

Jason's the one who beats the drum. You guys were talking all about the Buffalo offense, and Gabe Davis was available in the back of the eighth round. And that's who I would have taken if it were my team. I didn't look at wide receiver. Jason's face says he screwed up. He's so good. Thank you, Mike, for at least calling out my issue. I mean, the truth is. I feel like I've got to like, can we put like a formal, like long form disclaimer that scrolls on the screen every time Jason brings up.

Gabe Davis. I didn't bring him up, to be fair. Mike Brum. Your quote, and the analysis in this was spectacular was, he's so good. Yeah. You're back there. You're back there. Yeah, I've been pretty firmly back in place for a few. I mean, a couple weeks. Like, we took Penny there. Such a better pick for our team. You're not starting Gabe Davis over these four wide receivers anytime soon. It's true. Oh, I understand. But Elijah Moore, Lockett, Alave.

Robert Woods, and then Gabe Davis went before we went back up. It's like, oh man, I would much rather take Gabe, Gabe Davis over those guys. I understand that in a vacuum at wide receiver. Yeah. Not on our team. Yeah, this is where the team context does matter. And I could see even having known Gabe Davis was there to, you know, be convinced that the running back was better for our roster construction.

Here we are. We're back up. You've still got Melvin Gordon available, but we should at least peek at the quarterback. It's Aaron Rogers here for me. That's the pick. That's what I was going to say is that the quarterback's available. We're in the ninth round. We obviously have to have one. Aaron Rogers is available. Kirk Cousins is available. There really is a tear break from those two. Trey Lance, also available. Come on now. Look, if you're swinging for the...

If we're swinging for the fences. Same disclaimer. We need something that comes up on the board with Trey Lance and Gabe Davis. Yeah. So my rankings personally go Kirk Cousins, Aaron Rogers, and Trey Lance in that order. I am fine taking any one of those three. If you want Kirk, we should wait on it. Sure. And Mike, am I right to assume you would just slam Trey Lance here? I would draft Trey Lance. Is that like a drink?

You would slam the draft button on Trey Lance. So if you guys have a different opinion at quarterback than Aaron Rogers and we are all on different pages, then we should not take one. We should wait another round and just let the draft come to us. Yeah, it looks like between our next pick, there is only one team that does not yet have a quarterback. That doesn't mean that teams can't take multiple garbage. I would probably take Gronk right now. I don't know if he'll come back.

You don't think Gronk will come back. We have our long wait, and to me, the rest are just garbage, shots in the dark. So, Gronk could be, I mean, last year, points per game, he was a difference-making tight-in. So to me, can I get a difference-maker in the ninth round, or am I taking another shot at a running back or wide receiver? I'm not playing for the first while.

I mean, that's the way I'd lean, but... Completely understand that logic. If it was my pick, I think I would go Melvin Gordon here for more running back depth for our roster. I'll make you a deal. We'll make you a deal. Oh, this is a Tray Lance trade. Oh, yeah. No, no, this is not a Tray Lance trade. This is, if you are selecting Aaron Rogers here, then when it comes back to us, we should... No, we should grab his true number one wide receiver, Alan Lazard.

and get that stack. I thought you meant Sammy Watkins because that's probably the true number one. It is not. Watson. It's not Watson. It's probably Sammy. It's not probably. So real quick, this is a fun experiment. Mike, you believe that the number one fancy wide receiver at the end of this season will be Alan Lazard for the Green Bay Packers? That is correct. Andy, who do you think it will be?

Not necessarily. Sammy Watkins. I think I'm in the Sammy Watkins camp right now. Fantasy points, I think it'll be walking. Which is not a place I like to be. No, and I'm not saying that that number will be extremely high either. So, yeah. Al-Azard needs to show up to camp for us to pick him, Mike. Sorry. Oh, I understand. He's going to get a deal. We have to pick somebody to be on our team. All right. Trey Lance, you got it. You can get them later. Can you? Of course you can. All right. Well, then let's do that then.

You want Trey Lance later? Yeah, let's get Trey. Let's draft either Gronk or Melvin Gordon here. Let's take Gronk. Okay. And then we'll come back. Rogers went. Now, if we grab Lazzard, we could have two players that aren't currently playing football in Grunk and Alan Lazzart. I'm sorry that Melvin and Gordon went and Trey Lans also wins. I was wrong. Yeah, you know nothing about this draft. Well, yeah, he went as a second quarterback. Sorry, Mike.

I didn't expect the second quarterback to go off the board for the Lamar Jackson manager. This was the second quarterback off the board. I apologize. I'm sorry you didn't get your guy, but Kirk Cousins is there and we should take him now. Kurt Cousins was the quarterback 11 last year. Kirk Cousins was the quarterback 11 the year before. Mike just said the most true Kurt Cousins. Look, there's some hope, Mike. We have a new offensive genius in Minnesota who's going to do some things with Kurt Cousins.

I mean, I get it. But if we're talking about difference makers, Kirk Cousins does not make a difference. I agree. We should have taken Trey Lance there and just taking the shot on him. Unfortunately, I was going to take Lazard as a like pennance. He went two picks ahead. Yeah, because team three knows what they're doing. So he's gone. So I've ruined both of you. No Melvin Gordon, no Trey Lance. Yeah, but at least Jason gets Kurt Couss. He does not have a contract.