Week 2 Studs & Duds + Trade Drama, Bye Guys! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/21

significantly better when they get a quarterback there well it's time to have this conversation roma dunes a luther burden rome three for 43 luther burden three for 32 i mean that's their wide receiver two and three on their team yeah i always say the i don't want to hit it but the the the biggest panic is the utilization right now of lutherburton of him not being a full-time player like it certainly sounded like he was going to be

Caliph Raymond, man. The stats of that game are, I talked about it on Sunday Live because that was the weather report game of, oh, no, this weather of this level of rain and this level of wind is going to come in, and it's going to be a disaster for fantasy. And the fact that Luther and Colston 11 were bad in week one, and now they're, like, they're not going to be good. Nobody's going to be good in this type of a weather. I mean, but it's the on-field stuff that.

He played... You should be scared about it. He played 57% of snaps. Caliph Raymond was at 62%. Raymond was 5% for 40. He's not going to be a startable asset ever. No, no, he's not. But he will ruin people. Exactly. But so will, like, Colquimette. And like, look, the fact we're talking about it, Dune's a Burden and Loveland, they scored 59 points in week one and they didn't do anything. You're going to lose Caleb Williams. Like, this is, this is totally, you should not, there isn't a lot of copium here.

In this situation, like Burden, I absolutely believe Burden in a Dunezay will have a better fantasy year than Clef Raymond. Both of them will. I completely agree. And they will be way potentially below your expectations, hopes, and ADP. Yeah, if Khalif Raymond continues playing 50 plus percent of the snaps, that is not going to do it for him, but it will ruin Luther Burden because Luther Burden will not be playing 85% of the snaps. Zakias was on that team last year, right?

Yes. And he was playing ahead of Luther Burton. Well, I'm looking, it's like 60. He's got the exact same role. I mean, 60% of snaps. So 53 was the average on the year for Zakias, but he missed a couple games with injury and left one early with injury. He basically played the exact Caliph, Raymond snaps. The process from Fantasy Bros this offseason was that.

Now it will be Luther Burden. Now that he's not a rookie, we saw him kind of explode at the end of the year. He will be a full-time player. Obviously, he's drafted as like the wide receiver 15 earlier in the offseason before the injury. We were out then. Yes. When he started dropping, it looked more reasonable. And I don't think that this is a guarantee that he can't get there this year. He still got the targets. Yeah, it's just the route share of. Yeah, he had more targets than Raymond. Of Khalif Raymond running more routes.

Len Luther Byrne is just so, so bizarre. But don't overreact. Do not overreact to what we're saying about Khalif being involved. This game was, this was the true weather. Nine to three. Nine to three total game. Yes, Vikings, great defense. They hit that nasty button, Mike. Great defense. Yeah, that's what that game was. And then you had the injury to boot to finish it out. Just got to hold on. Jefferson, just three for 55 there? Yes.

Did you hear that over there? Yeah, they heard it. Yes, sir. That's cool. That's cool. I wish I had. I bet it sounded pretty good, huh? George Pickens, uh, six for 40. It's been, uh, they just haven't hit on the big play yet. Yep. Jameson Williams, two for 33. I don't want to talk about it. Mike Evans, three for 54. I feel like George Pickens right now is maybe a.

a pretty good trade for Canada. I agree. They missed on huge plays in week one. And honestly, eight targets, six for 40. It's not the end of the world. Every wide receiver is inconsistent. Big games are coming. Evans and Debo, they were not the beneficiaries of the perfect game, so to speak. It was only, what I say, 15 completions that were necessary for Brock Purdy. But you want, you know, people spent up on Debo. He looked fine. They didn't need him. They didn't need him. And now DeMarcus Robinson is out.

Like, Debo has to be a huge part of the office now. Yes. Yes. And Ladd-McConkie, by the way, three-for-35 was not in on every snap. Oh, was in on... Very few. Yeah. I mean, this is... Let me see. Let's look it up. Watching it, I don't know. So it looks like 46% of snaps he was in on. It felt like he was in on 5% of snaps. So what... How many did you say? 46%. So here's what's wild. And JJ, friend of the show, you might know him from his bowl cut.

When, and we've been talking about this, but we didn't have data to back it up. When Ladd-McConkie has been off the field, the Chargers have an EPA per play of minus. 1.4, which is the second worst in all of football. When he's been on the field, that number is 0.12, which is the seventh best in all of football. We've been saying, when Ladd is not out there, their offense looks incapable of moving the football at all. And look, if Brandon Thompson and Trey Harris and David Adjoku, and these guys are going to drop the ball,

That's all it is. Lad can catch. I think as Ladd gets healthier, this offense will hopefully figure it out, get it together. But we've talked a lot about how brutal their schedule is coming up. Yeah, they basically protected his ribs on any play that required them to run the football, put him out there when there was a chance to use him. But, you know, until he's fully healthy, it's going to be scary. This next player had the best bad game I have ever seen in my life. Terry McLaurin.

dominated this game. He had a 35-yard touchdown called the touchdown on the field that then was overturned, said it was out of bounds. Then he had a wide open play in the end zone for a long touchdown that he was completely missed on. Thanks Antonio Williams. Wide receiver throwing the football. Yes. Yeah, that was Antonio Williams throwing the football. And then he had another play where he had his man beat.

end zone target overthrown nine targets ended up with 50 yards but it was i mean two for 50 on those nine targets where it was like you just every time you looked it was like oh he's he's open he's in the end zone he's gonna have a touchdown no what happens if your nine targets ends up with 27 yards what would your name be uh that sounds like d k mcc cat that is dk mackab and um mike i never thought you'd get me to say this yeah

he a sucks that dude sucks and that offense by the way we've seen bad offenses in the NFL that is statistically the worst offense so far through two weeks the Pittsburgh offense no yes statistically statistically they're worse in the yeah I think EPA per play they're worse

Oh, Atlanta's worse. Okay. Second worst. That makes sense. I just couldn't get past Atlanta. But those two are hanging out. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Like they're going out together. Yeah, Rogers is, he's like, hey, Cooper Rush, let me tell you to play football. Also, that tackle on Rogers. If you haven't seen it. And it's close, Jason. They are point. Oh, they're so close to being the same. Point zero two. One of them has Cooper Rush. One has Hall of Fame or Aaron Rogers. And they're that close. Aaron Rogers got hit.

in the back, blindsided, and he turned into the letter, like a backwards letter C, you know? I mean, it was awful. I've never heard somebody describe. I guess that's what Tyler Shuck did on the goal line. They turned him into a regular letter C. I mean, it was. It was disgusting. And he popped right back up, but he was asked after the game. I mean, you have to roster, Metcalfe, because nine targets and ten targets, his.

He is leading the NFL in expected the differential between real fantasy points and expected fantasy points to two weeks. Because he sucks. And so does Rogers at this stage. I mean, obviously first ballot hall of famer, all-timer, but he does not have it. That team is going to have. They need T.J. Watt to play more positions than one. Carnell. They did win the game. Yeah, yeah.

No, that was last week. That was against Atlanta. That was last week against the worst offense. The only team they could beat was the team that was somehow worse. Carnell Tate is three for 27 in this game. It has not gotten going for Carnell Tate. And I don't know if it can get going. I hope so. He did lead the team in Target Share. I believe it was 29%. Okay. Yeah. You're hoping for brighter days. Cam Ward had a okay.

fantasy output he did get two rushing touchdowns one was on a super short field uh the passing work still to me is leaving a lot to be desired but i mean some signs some some like like the flatline started beeping you know i did it i'm safe for ward uh i think maybe the crash card is in the other room and they're still grabbing it but i it was flatline and i hear i heard a beep you heard a beep you hoped you might have heard it upstairs you go peep

And you go, what? Did he move? I didn't see him move. Okay. Did he move? I heard a beep. I mean, I guess we'll give you that. Do we have a beep here? The conversation, I think the number one conversation people want to have, unfortunately, is this guy. It is Colston Loveland, three targets, one for three. Through two weeks, he has one catch. His target share, remember we were complaining about Burden and a Dunezay? Yeah. Just a second ago, it seems like.

Oh, they're doing great. Burdens target shares 21%. Rome is 13. Colson Levin's is at 9%. And this, um, Loveland is... This is a real... It's a complete disaster. You can't? I don't even... I don't know what you do with this. You have to bench him and look for someone else while Caleb is gone. Oh, yeah. I think you're not... You don't believe in the secret pageant man? Secret.

I feel like, Mike, you were going to have to do one of the grossest things that you could possibly do, which is to like play Dalton Schultz regularly. Dude, in my head. Over Colson Lovewood. In my head, I was like, would you play Donaldson? Of course. Of course. And I couldn't say it out loud. So I'm glad to Andy did. I mean, like this week coming up. Because it's true. This is happening. You have to wait. I mean, at least with Tucker Kraft, right? Like he's in this section.

The dude's coming back from a catastrophic knee injury for the first two weeks of the year. And one of these games, that's the first time a team has won with under 100, like one, that Green Bay game. They won by double digits, but they were under 200 passing yards. Like there's some, they were a, oh, no, they didn't win by that one by a field goal. Kyle, find me that number because the, the improbability of Green Bay winning that football game was historical performance-wise. So, but Loveland, I mean.

You can't trade him for anything close to the value you spent on them in the draft. I don't think you should. Here it is. The Packers are the first team since 1941 to win a game with less than 200 total yards. That's what it was. Total yards. 100 plus penalty yards and a negative turnover margin. And they managed to win that game against the Jets. Gross. Which I think the win started right when the head coach of the Jets. Aaron Glenn decided to do another sideline dance of sorts. The Packers look legitimately bad so far.

And it really seems like they need Josh Jacobs bad. We'll see. But back to Loveland, it is a hold. It is two weeks. But now you have the injury to Caleb that compounds they like just go back to the well. You haven't had the big play. You haven't had the touchdown. Look, we just said it. Tyler Warren has like very few yards on the season, but he's got two touchdowns to kind of, you know, let you get through to where he can start putting a better yardage. Do you think Caleb Williams saves the Packers, by the way, Jason?

or Caleb Johnson. I don't think that they're going to give him enough work. He did look like their best running back. He really did. When they got around the goal line, I was like if Caleb Johnson gets this touchdown. He's so great. Unfortunately, it was Marshawn Lloyd. You know, they talked about he's earned more. They're going to get him more work. But I do expect news hopefully this week on Josh Jacobs. Seems like it'll be four to six games. And then so I don't see it.

Caleb Johnson's not going to be rescuing this team. Josh Jacobs is going to be rescuing this team. And Micah Parsons. Yeah, Parsons is the big one. Yeah, the targets in utilization for Loveland are just scary right now. Against Philly this week with a backup quarterback, I don't imagine you could start Loveland with any kind of confidence. There'll be waiver, tight ends. I play Gadsden. If you don't believe, then you want to trade. Trade is fine. There's no world where you can cut.

Colson Love. No. No, but what is, what is that trade? Like, who, would you trade him? I'm going to say it. Oh, gosh. Okay. Did you trade him for Travis Kelsey? I don't know. No, I still think that there's up. What's Kelsey's roster later in there? I trade him for Tyler Warren. No one's doing that. No one's doing that. That's true. I'd go, I'd go for Jamar Chase.

Yeah, no, I would definitely try him for McElry's fully roster. Would you trade him for George Kettle? Yeah. So, I mean, the Kelsey thing's interesting because the way this offense looks right now, he's not going to be coming off the field. The concern with Travis Kelsey is the age. Yeah. And like. Wearing down versus going getting better. Colston Lovewin will get better over the course of the season. We just now the questions are fair of how good does Colston Lovelland actually get?