Starts of the Week + Week 5 Games, Smooshed! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/8

But in turn, I would play Shipley over Pierce. I would just hope you get some pass catching. Would you play Shipley over someone like J.K. Dobbins? No. Not against Jacksonville. Jacksonville, seventh against running backs. It'll be split up. They're going to be in a position where the running game is not how the Philadelphia Eagles are going to get back into the game. It's close to me on that one. I think Shipley will get some opportunities in the passing game, but I kind of, I think I lean with Mike. I mean.

48% of snaps last week for Shipley led to one target, no catches, six for 23. It might be nasty. Trevor Lawrence, Bayshaw, Tootin, Jason started the week. Parker, Washington, only three targets last week, one for seven. Yeah. No, that's not true, is it? How many targets did he have last week? I feel like that was three targets, yeah. Oh, one catch for seven years. Yeah, he was a disaster. It's all right. It would, look, Brent and Strange went crazy last week. It happens. He also had a touchdown.

like drop like he he was there was there was a play where if that play connects you're fine and you're still happy with parker washington last week it's the bangles tight ends destroy the bangles and jacksonville adjusted yeah uh we have outside of parker washington what are you doing with jacobby meyers bryan thomas junior britain strange strange was really good last week i don't think i'm looking to start any of them i mean anyone can have a game obviously brian thomas junior

caught the touchdown last week, but I'm kind of Parker Washington confident and everyone else I'm looking elsewhere. Chicago's 3 and 1 taking on the Green Bay Packers. We already kind of talked a little bit about this game talking about. Oh my goodness. Talking about the situation of running back for Chicago. But the Vegas line here, Chicago minus one and a half on the road. So you are road favorites with a backup quarterback. With Tyson Baygens? It's been such. I mean, I don't.

We are. It's a good thing that Jeremy is not here. It's not good for Green Bay, but they are the- Oh, that's embarrassing. They're the worst two-and-two team out there. This is the first time that Chicago's been a favorite in Lambo in 20 years, and they've got a backup quarterback. So some of it's been Johnson and, like, credit, and some of it is the Packers and, like. I mean, a lot of it is the Packers watching them is. Well, do you have a bad? If you have Menongai and Swift, do you see a world where the Bears can't just.

ball possessed like they did last year or last week oh my gosh you guys have a sickness it's something weird has happened in the last 48 hours i don't know why i don't i just don't see them if you adjust for the schedule played currently the packers are dead last uh against running backs giving up 8.8 fantasy points more than expected so yeah this is going to be a run down your throat type of game

Um, yeah, yeah, that's, that's just, it's hard to see that stopping. Now, offensively, it's, it's, you know, Watson and Golden are in your lineup for Green Bay, right? What do you do with the, and so is craft, but what do you do with the wide receiver room for the bears? It's really hard. I mean, some of this just feels like you're, you're chasing the previous week. I want to say Rome.

Rome is definitely out there for the most snaps. Single wide receiver sets he's out there. He's getting the targets. We saw it last week. You follow that up with, you know, hey, it's finally the same quarterback in back-to-back weeks. Maybe we have something we can go off of. However, you know, Ben Johnson is the type of guy where it's like every week is going to be a new game plan. He'll put both quarterbacks on the field to start the game just because he's. Oh, so on that note.

It officially, because of rules, the start, I mean, it did go to Case Keenum. So in the record books, Case Keenum got the victory as the starter. Not Tyson-Bas. Okay, you outsmarted yourself on that one, Ben Johnson. As of right now, if you're going off of the prize picks projections.

Burden would be the favorite. Oh, really? But it's not great. It's 44 and a half receiving yards for Burden. Roams at 38.5. Did you see the stats on Khalif Raymond? He went about 50% rostered last week and ended up with six total yards as predicted on this show. We all knew it was going to happen. I mean, we've been there long enough to know what Khalif Raymond is. So, yeah, I mean, Jordan Love has not hit 20 fantasy points yet this year. Is that true, brother?

Crazy. He hasn't been that bad. I thought week one there was a whole bunch of disgusting. 19.5, 13.8, 18.5, 13.1. Just under in week one with 3.87 and 2. So would you play Love or Drake May against Vegas? I mean, when you say Love is in Lambo, you feel like you should be able to start him. Yeah. I have love higher in my projections as of right now. But I'd play Bo Nix when I started the week over.

Oh wait, no, I apologize. Drake Mae is one spot ahead of Jordan Love. Yeah, but where are they in your weekly rankings? Eight and nine. Okay. Which that right now just has, because that's got like Jaden Daniels behind the two of them, which when we get like systems go. We do have systems go. Well, I, yeah. It's Thursday. People lie in the NFL. So it's just when you're like really confident that's going to happen, I imagine Jaden will move up. That's a tough call. I would like both.

The over under is better for Drake. The implied total looks about the same for both. I would probably, I think I'd play Jordan Love. Do you guys have permission from your doctor to talk about the running game for the Packers? Sure. Is that okay with blood pressure? Oh, gosh. Cholesterol and things like that? Not mine. My blood work is actually pretty good, but I want it to stay that way. I mean, do you mess around here? Chris Brooks is not practiced. There is a path.

That's called Chris Brooks is out, so Marshawn Lloyd gets another five plus targets. That's the path. I mean, but that doesn't matter. I mean, Marshawn Lloyd is. Talk to your friend, Andy over here, just said you're starting Damien Pierce. And a really crappy dinosaur league. It does matter. It's gross. I mean, last week.

RB 34 last week for Marshawn Lloyd. Wait, that's the positive spin? Well, I'm saying like, it's like not in the top 30. People are playing more than 24 running backs. He had five targets last week. Yeah. He did not score eight fantasy points. 57% of runs have been stopped at the line of scrimmage for Green Bay. The fumbling issue for both Caleb Johnson and Marshall Lloyd was talked about. And there's just like, they will be benched. If either of them fumble the ball,

They will not touch the ball again. Like, genuinely, they will be out for the game. So then who's, after they both fumble, then what happens? They just start. Which go zero? Yeah, zero. They just throw it every, every single time. All right. Houston, O and four, Tennessee is O and four. Oh, boy, somebody has to win, probably. Two O and four AFC South teams. We had news that Domingo Ryans is taking back play calling duties on the defensive side of the football, which.

The defense has been the most surprisingly bad part of this team. Their 25th in fantasy points allowed to quarterback 32nd to wide receivers, dead last. I mean... This was a team that no one could throw on last year. No, they did. They've been able to... Now, Tennessee is a team that we've never seen throw the ball well, really, but... They're going to get smushed. I don't... Kyle, look this up. This has to be like the only time that an 0.14...

Andy's almost upset of the week. Number one, smushed is your new word of the week. Yeah. Because you must have said on the Sunday morning when we were watching games, oh man, that guy got smushed. Well, to be fair. More times than I can. To be fair, this was a smushed. When I was watching people get tackled, it was more of a smushed. That's true. Yeah, there's a difference. It's home seven and a half point dogs for the Titans. That's what I was curious about. Is there a...

a time where an 0 and 4 team has been over a touchdown favorite before because that's wild. Over under 38 and a half, there is not a lot of fantasy value to be had in this one. You know, you're going to play Nico Collins because he's in that stud tier. We had long debates about Montgomery and Marks. I don't want to play either one of them, really. Marshawn Lloyd or? I play Lloyd. Okay. If Chris Brooks is out. Just for pass catching. Right, right. Yeah. No, I mean.

You know, Tony Poller's not practicing on Wednesday with the foot. They seem to be resting him periodically. I think the biggest actual question mark in this game from a start perspective is just Carnell Tate. You know, 12 targets, 9 for 1, 45. You don't want to, you know, that's a great line. He should be started. He fumbled and needs to hold the ball closer to his chest. Yeah, the way he runs. I mean, I think he fumbled twice, lost one of them and looked like he was going to fumble every time. Hopefully that was brought up. Two fumbles, yeah.

Hopefully that was brought up in the film room. But yeah, I mean, this is a player who he got nine targets two weeks ago. I'd play him over Marv. Yes. I play him over Cooper. I mean, obviously D'emico Ryan's taking over Playcon. Maybe they completely fix it. But this has been a team that has given up a lot of points to wide receivers. Colonel Tate has, you know, 21 targets in the last two weeks and is awesome. We do you play him over a valet?

Yeah, this week against the Vikings. I would too. I don't think Carnell Tate's a bad start. No. No. I think it's Nico and Carnell Tate and then the rest of it you're trying to avoid. Yeah, we needed to see it first with Carnell Tate. I like all the people, if you have nine for 145 on your bench, that sucks. But you needed to see it. But I had to see at least something. So the targets plus that the Texans defense to the wide receiver position, at least thus far.

They're giving up an extra nine points over expectation. So that's 30th against the position. Yeah, you're going to hold your breath, but I'd put him out there. All right, we'll take a break and jump into some more matchups. We've got another 0 and 4 team about to try to get off the snide. A skeeter in here. Oh, no, that's a mosquito? Yeah. So you flicked the mosquito at me. Why would you not smoo shit? I'm trying to smoo shit. No, you flicked. Yeah, well, you could kill it with a flick. No, you can't. Oh, I killed it with a flick. No, you don't.

You don't flick them all the time and kill them. I do, too. That's a lie. With flies, with flies, that's the number one way. With flies. I can't slap a fly. You said it was a mosquito. Oh, I can only slap a fly. What? Yeah. I can never slap a fly. You must have a fly. You can flick a fly. I've seen it. But what about the skeeter you flicked at me? Why do you want it to eat me? I hope it is not me. I don't think you killed that. First of all, you missed. I did. I know for a fact. I know. I saw. Second of all, I'm not sure it was a mosquito. Oh, I know it was. Okay. Yeah.

That's why you didn't smash it. Josh, you are, Josh is thinking you can't flick the fly. Yes, you can. Oh, I, you approach very slowly. You have fast flick flies all the time. You're locked and load it. I can't fly fastly. Absolutely. Yes. Papa Josh doesn't believe you. It's true. Yeah. I can do the monkey bars too. No, okay. You can't do that. I was backing you, man. Yeah. I was supporting you. I can't flick a fly. Mike has seen me flick a fly. Yes.

Well, I can't tie. Cincinnati Bengals, two and two. Miami's 0 and four, Cincy minus six and a half on the road over under 42 and a half. It's a nice implied point total of just under 25 for the Bengals. Miami is leading the way every week on lowest implied point totals. They have one passing touchdown in four weeks. So, yeah, again, I already apologized last week. Nothing is working. And now A. Chan's gone. It's been really, really bad. H.N.'s gone. The running game got way better somehow.

Yeah, I mean, it was really good for Ollie Gordon last week. It was. Nine for a hundred and one. He is the one that looks like a three down back. But the pass catching, it was like two targets intentionally to start the game, never got another one. You know, Jaylon Wright, don't worry about it. And the wide receiver room, you have injured rookies. Caleb Douglas won't play. Chris Bell is banged up with a knee. You got Malik Washington, who is he's safe. PPR Shakir for seven, eight points. He is safe for that.

And so I look, Ollie Gordon against Cincinnati's defense is much, much improved and musty, very musty as well. But they're 11th against running backs. I think Ali Gordon, if he was in your lineup last week, you're probably playing him again. It's funny how we look at a reason to bench him. It's funny how we look at Cincinnati's defense. They are playing so much better than they were last year that I just look at them as like elite, oh no, it's Cincinnati. Watch out. They're not.

the defense target, but they're really just now, like an average NFL defense. They can present problems, but they're not some complete shutdown defense. I think Ollie Gordon is, he should earn more work. What he has done the last two weeks on the field, if they come out and they do this 50-50 split again, I think it's silly. Yeah, we've got a hot one here. Ollie Gordon or Braylon Allen for the New York Jets, which Braylin Allen got, it wasn't, we didn't really get.

Fantasy points because the Jets ran about two plays. But Braylon Allen was a full workhorse in that game. I would go Ollie. I think I would go Ollie as well. It's not like the Jets aren't trying to have few players. They're playing so slow. I just am fearful. If you're not. Hampton against the Broncos or Ali Gordon. I'm sorry, Jason. That's disgusting. I knew it was. I'm going to stick. Oh, gosh. I will go Hampton. Yeah.