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Best Kept Secrets, Last Place Punishments + The NFL & Coronavirus - Fantasy Football Podcast

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is Chris Carson. Here's why I believe that. To do with the broken hip? I think all three players are an injury risk. You know, Todd Gurley, we worry about the knee. Leonard Fournett has been an injury prone player throughout his entire high school college and NFL career. Now, Chris Carson is currently dealing with an injury, but nobody seems worried about it. The timeline should put him back. But he's on the same team. His competition for touches has gotten

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even better in the sense that Rashad Penny is not expected to be ready. And he's succeeded in this role and its PPR, whereas I expect Leonard Fournett to lose some of those receptions, if not a lot of those receptions to Chris Thompson. It's, I think it's a very interesting debate because I think Fornett might be the safest.

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But the risk factors are different between players. Fornett, you're projecting a change in his use. Carson, you're looking at injury. Gurley, you're probably looking at both of those factors, which puts him at the bottom of the list to me. You're looking at the health, and you're also looking at a change of scenery so you don't know what his use is. I don't like the answer about least amount of risk being Fournette. So I'll go with Carson as well. I think it's Carson. Initially.

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Initially in my head, it was like, it's Chris Carson, but I'm, Andy, I tend to agree with that, that Leonard Fournett, his risk goes down. Like, he was of huge risk earlier, and we were still feeling kind of the aftershocks of hearing about a guy maybe traded here. There was a bunch of red flags with Leonard Fournett, but as we move forward, I think the risk goes, it lowers every single week. And I think that by the time,

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We get close to draft season. I think Leonard Fournett is going to actually be the safest of those three. All right. All right. Let's go. Hey, Brooks, we got a voicemail question. Is this one good to go? Do you know? No, sir. Oh, it's not good. Okay. All right. That's why I didn't click it. I'd rather ask. That is a solid question. Andy, that was a well-placed question. An important answer, and you got it.

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All right. Now that I'm thinking about it, it makes sense that that might be old. All right. Twitter question from Cranjus McBasketball, one of my favorite. Yes, good name. What are your thoughts on trying to avoid stacking players with a week 13 by? For instance, the Panthers and Buccaneers. Yeah, so it's different in different leagues, right? So like Scotty Fishbowl league and leagues that do two-week playoffs.

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They often are in the playoffs in week 13, in which case you're going, you know, Christian McCaffrey, Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, these guys aren't going to be around for your first playoff week, not like, oh, they could be injured. Their teams aren't playing football. So that's something to keep in mind. Now, there are some people who want to try to get the buy week by never having, you know, a buy week. They want the buy in the playoffs and they go for gold there and stack them. I don't like.

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ever choosing to stack playoff buys to punt a week. Do you know what I mean? Like some players, whatever it is, they see a bunch of teams they like on week nine and they want to load up on all of the week nine buys. I just don't, I just don't wait it. I don't wait it enough to where that goes into the thought process and decision making. Yeah. Yeah. It's not in, it's not really in mine. Week 13 is so far away. Like your team is going to look probably vastly different.

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you know, by that time. So I'm not, I'm not over worried about stacking those particular teams because of the buy. All right. I like this question here because I've seen leagues that do this. Chase wants to know asking on Facebook, is adding a league median to your head-to-head league a good idea? And let me tell you where this came from. Once upon a time, all of the really disgruntled, bitter, sad,

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people that lost one week when they had the second highest point total in the league, and they lost to the highest point total in the league, Jason's lying. Me every week last year. They all gathered together in an attic where it's a little bit too short to stand up in, and they all got together and they said, we should add a league median so that way when weeks like this happen, at least I get one win against the average score. And so in this instance, in a head-to-head league, you'd have...

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two available wins each week, right? You'd have your head-to-head matchup and you'd have your league median score. So you average the scores of the week. And if you beat that, you get a win. If you lose, you get another loss. It's fine. I don't, if your league wants to do it, it doesn't bother me. I'm not going to advocate against it. But I like focusing on one matchup. Yeah, I have personally never played in that format. This last year.

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I really wished I was playing in that format and I questioned whether even to bring it to a vote in our league of record because it was infuriating to be a high scoring team every week and just the chips fall in a sucky way and now I'm losing games even though I'm one of the best teams. And so I thought about making that change. But I do think Andy and this is this is my opinion without having played in one.

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I like the classic. I like the head-to-head. I like the, you've got to beat me this week or you get the win and you get the loss. And I got over. We were entertained. Yes, we were entertained. Our league was better. You weren't better. You were in physical pain. I was, I was Philip Rivering. Phillips Rivering all over the place. P. Rivering. You're P. Rivering everywhere. Yeah, you were. And it was painful for you. And as your friend, I'm sorry, except for the week that I did it to you. But. But Mike,

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I know one of your main leagues is like this. You've talked about it for years. So what is your opinion having been, you know, you've... Yeah, you've never advocated for all of our other leagues that we're in together to switch this format in like a intense way. Well, I know the... Know your audience. I know the cremudgeons who are in our league who would... They're all... They're not in the attic meeting. They're down in the basement meeting. Having their grumble, grumble. We do things the way we've always done them.

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I love it, man. And it really hasn't had to fix a ton of things. But there has been a few instances where a team is rewarded for being consistent throughout the year instead of this. You don't see a team with the second most points scored in the league in the five seat. It just doesn't happen in that format, which I prefer.

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There's the age-old argument of how close do you make fantasy football try to be like real football? I think that it started there, but my mentality has shifted of make fantasy football the best game that fantasy football could be. I know it's based off of our points are coming from real football games, but it's fantasy football. It's very, very different. Okay, so cutting through all of that, if you were making a new league for us and you're the commish, and it's going to be...

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You know, the three of us and some other people, which format would you set up personally? I would have the median. I would have a, I would have two wins or two points, whatever you want to call it a week. And if you're in the top half, you get one. If you win your matchup, you get one. All right. Yeah. All right. Instagram question from David. He says, how did you guys meet? Oh, what a great question, David.

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Is this another meat question? Yes, M-E-A-T. How do we meet? Well, Omaha State, Frasers. I was a junior in a freshman Spanish class. Shocker. Yes, he was. And Andy was an incoming freshman. Yeah, I was a freshman in a freshman class. Right. In fairness, to me, I did not stay in that class. I left. I bailed on that class halfway through. Did you go to a class where you were supposed to be?

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Like with other older people? I just quit that class. No, I just, I dropped out of that class. And then Spanish was my deficiency for college because I didn't care for it. But that's where, that's where Andy and I met. We actually, in that played fantasy basketball. And I think that started our friendship. And then, which, but that was like 20 years ago. Oh, gosh, we're so old. And then we, I had a business several years later, long after.

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high school and ended up hiring Andy. And then he was the C.O. And we grew. And then we found this amazing musician for our video games. And he wasn't available. And so then we had to go to mine. Hey. Oh. No, you know, Mike did the audio. And so we all worked together at that company for many, many years. And mostly cared about fantasy football. And then eventually.

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we decided to follow our passions and dreams. Yeah, that's how we met. Here we are. Really important follow-up question here. Well, let's go to this one first. Hold on. Adam wants to know, is there a world where Teddy Bridgewater is the top 10 quarterback this year? My answer to that is no. Is there a world? I think it exists. Yes.

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In like the multiverse? Like there's one of those multiverses where it happens? Well, if you're saying in the multiverse, then yes, because in the multiverse, anything that can happen does happen. But I think in this world, I think top 10, I think it could happen, yes. I lean that I don't think that's in his range of outcomes. If I were to give him a range of outcomes, I think he would probably be quarterback.

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12 or 13 at the top. He doesn't go downfield. I will say this for Mike's sake. And his argument, it's a bad defense. It's an incoming offense from college that looks to spread it out, throw it a lot. And he has a lot of great weapons with Christian McCaffrey and DJ Moore. They signed Robbie Anderson. They have Curtis Samuel. So the weapons are there. I guess I just don't believe in the talent to really go from quality NFL quarterback.

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Two really good fantasy quarterback. Top 10 is a pretty, it's a pretty high bar. Let me throw some other names out there, though. Mike said yes, the possibility. I said no. I'm going to name some other quarterbacks. You tell me if top 10 is in the range of outcomes, okay? All right. Joe Burrow. I'm going to say yes. Yeah, I think it is possible. He runs the ball, and if he comes on and just continues from his college pace. Philip Rivers in Indianapolis. Yeah. I pass.

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I refuse to say, I refuse to say yes. If he is, he's going to be the quarterback 10 and consistently mediocre. Drew Locke. No. No. Derek Carr. No. So you said Teddy Bridgewater, yes, Mike, but Derek Carr no. Yes. I know who Derek Carr is. I know what that offense is. I don't know for sure what Matt Jaw rule is going to do.

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on the offensive side of the ball. That's why I say it's possible. You want to ask me a percentage chance? It's not high? Two to three percent. Dwayne Haskins, Mike. No. Okay. Okay. All right. YouTube question. Adam Gaze or Jar Jar Binks. Oh, man. Misa want Jar Jar Jar. Oh.

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Misa love Jar Jar. I would have him be... Come on. I genuinely would have him be my best friend. If he needed a place to live and I didn't have an extra bedroom and we had to go bunk beds, like that was the extreme. I would go... You would rather be bunk mates with Jar Jar Bing. Yeah, I think we could have a good time. I think Jar Jar, look, sometimes he's going to annoy me, but I think we'd have a... He's very clumsy.

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We'd have a good time. We'd, you know, we'd cut it up, get into some trouble, have some fun. And I just think I would be so depressed. Mesa, like Omaha Steaks? Yes. He'd be okay with it. Yeah. Yeah, I feel bad because I know the backstory, like the guy who did the voiceover for Jar Jor Bing's, like this, this like ruined a bunch of stuff for his life. And can you imagine the big break?

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You're going to be in the new Star Wars movies. They give you this character where you get to like try and be animated. And then it comes out. And it is just the worst. It is the worst. I'm walking my kids through all of the Star Wars movies. I just watched the prequels a couple weeks ago. How that go. How that go? Oh, man. Oh, man. Who are you choosing, Mike? Oh, Jar Jar Binks. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

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Oh, my goodness. Fictional character. All right. What value does Adam Thielen, this is from I'm Devin on Instagram. What value does Adam Thielen hold in a dynasty format? I think he holds more value to fantasy than he holds to the minds. When most people, like he is currently undervalued in fantasy. I think he would be a decent trade for target because you can get him a little cheap. People who own. He will be turning 30 in August. Yes, he'll be turning 30.

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