The TRUTH About Fantasy RBs: Part 2 + Javonte Hype - Fantasy Football Podcast for 1/27

Nine on, really week eight on with the injury early in the game. Consistency rank of number three was blowing away the field at the position is absolutely worthy of taking a chance at with the number one pick, in my opinion. If you don't want to go Jonathan Taylor or Austin Echler, I think you can, in good conscience, go Derek Henry. Because of the identity, the commitment they have the Tanna Hill as the quarterback.

He was the number one running back points-wise until week 16, Kyle? He was an RB1 for. Oh, he was still an RB1. I see, yes. I mean, 50% of his games were great. That's 21 plus points. I mean, you just look at his game log. Here's his fantasy finishes through the year. Started poorly against our Arizona Cardinals. Remember, the Titans got shellacked opening weekend. And then from then on out, Derek Henry was the running back one.

11, 4, 1, 1, and 12 through week 7. He was the best. He was the absolute best. He was the best to have on your roster. That team that lost by a handful in the final championship game had him on it. It was so hard to lose him. He was an automatic great performance at the position every single week. When he was active through that stretch, he was not the running back one. He was.

far and away the running back one. He was averaging 25 and a half fantasy points. The next best running back was Austin Echler at 19.2 fantasy points. Derek Henry was, I mean, it would be nearly impossible to just constantly lose with Derek Henry on your roster. I only know one person who was able to do that, and it was Kyle. Take a guess at the carries per game.

If you don't have it. Don't look. I don't have it in front of me. Just take a guess. 72. Take a better guess. I had to think it was outrageous. I would say 26. 27. 27 is what I was, no, you didn't let me finish. 27 carries a game. So if you want to think about it, sure, he doesn't catch a ton of passes. He catches a few and he can do a lot with them. And just give, it's two running backs.

27 carries is two he had 219 carries how many did aaron jones have on a whole year 171 yeah eight games 219 carries was really seven games so i don't draft running backs that don't catch the ball other than derrick henry he is an outlier he is different and i think that the whole narrative the only question age age

injury. I mean, he already came back. So I would imagine the injury is going to go away. He wasn't his regular dominant self in the playoff game, but that was one game. The fact that he came back means he's going to be fully healthy come the beginning of next year. But age is a question. I mean, he did miss half the season. And part of the issue when you get as much work as him is can the body stand up to that? It couldn't this year. So there will be that conversation. It's a fair conversation because it will not go forever.

You will not come into every draft with Derek Henry being worthy of his draft position. There will be a year where that doesn't happen. Yeah. I will, without a doubt, take him top three. It is so, like you can't, even if he plays bad, you cannot put up a very bad number with 27 carries. You just can't. And he doesn't play bad. That's the best combo. And you can have 26 carries for one yard. And the 27th can go for 85 in a touchdown because he's faster.

than everyone else. So it will be very interesting to see if he goes at three behind Echler and those other names, or another name, Jonathan Taylor. Giovante Williams and Melvin Gordon, did you know they finished 17th and 18th this season? The consistency rank was 25 for Melvin Gordon, 31 for Giovanni. In the second half of the year, Melvin Gordon was still more consistent. 26th, Giovante 28. Who had more carries? Trick question.

203 on the dot for both of them. You had more yards. Well, Melvin Gordon, 918 to a measly 903. I mean, this is comical. Melvin scored twice as many touchdowns. Yeah, I mean, Melvin Gordon was outstanding this year. It'll be really interesting to see if they bring him back. Wherever Melvin Gordon goes, he will be a value in drafts next year. If he's back, 100%, because he's left for dead. He was, you know. Get ready, Atlanta.

He wasn't drafted. Here he comes. Please. Here he comes. It's like Stephen Jackson in Atlanta. If he went to Atlanta, he would be a great fantasy value because nobody's going to clamor over themselves to get a near 30-year-old Melvin Gordon. But he was great. He looked really good. He's obviously very versatile. Has a nose for the end zone? Always has. And if he comes back to the Broncos, I'll still draft him because he'll...

plummet and fall as we all prognosticate that Javante Williams will overtake him and be the dude. I think the hope for everyone out there, though, as Melvin Gordon says, see you later and goes to Atlanta. Give value to two players here by exiting. Yeah, and for him, if he can get more than a one-year deal, at good money, he'll depart. Because I don't know if they're going to give him that in Denver. I'm sure he wouldn't mind coming back there.

If they're the ones paying. But, I mean, the mirrors between these players is ridiculous. They're both 6% great games, 38 and 35% good games. It's silly. And so the future for Giovante Williams is the future is that if Melvin Gordon departs, you're going to have people paint the rooms orange and blue and put Giovante's name all over the place. And he'll be the singular most hyped running back in the draft.

possible. Yeah, he's someone that if Melvin Gordon were to leave, you could make an argument that he could and should be taken in those top five picks, that what he is capable of. I mean, you know, on a per touch basis, he was extremely efficient. He broke tackles better than everyone in the NFL. That was only his rookie year. So coming into year two with that talent.

Good offense. They're going to move away from a very defensive-minded head coach, which, you know, should be possibly better for Javante Williams. If he's alone, man, I will, without a doubt, take him in the first round. He'll be worthy of it, for sure. And he, you know, we profiled him in the dynasty pass last year as the tackle breaker. He ended up sixth in force-miss tackles, despite...

splitting work. And if you look at that, I mean, look at the carry totals in Denver. It's 406 carries between him. Yeah. So, you know, is he at 250, 270 carry rusher next year? Probably. Even if Melvin Gordon was back, there could be a natural progression that happens there to 250. And he had 53 targets while being a split back. If he could be someone on the field far more, you could have him be someone that is an 80-

target type of running back, and those are those fantasy league winners, the running backs that are getting 250 plus on the ground and 75 plus targets. Yeah, and you add the opportunity with his talent, you'd be outstanding. Are you trying to get him cheaper than his real value in Dynasty? I don't think it's possible, man. I think that those who drafted Giovante, even though he didn't do much. What have you taken Aaron Jones?

I would trade Aaron Jones for Giovante Williams as quick as I possibly could in a Dynasty League. So if you've got Aaron Jones, go try to make the move. Dalvin Cook? That's interesting. Wow. I would want to. Is it time? I would want to wait and see if Melvin Gordon came back. Melvin Gordon comes back.

then it will be split again. And then you've got kind of this beginning of a career where you're seeing Giovante as that. He doesn't get the opportunity to become the guy, so you're not sure he ever will. Okay, so let me, who wouldn't you trade for Javonte? Because I'm sorry, Christian McCaffrey? I'm going to make you sweat. If Melvin Gordon signs somewhere else, I would trade. Yes. All of these questions are just, we're going into the season with Javante and Mike Boone.

Okay, and that's what we're going into the year with. I would. Would you trade Christian McAfee for him? Yeah. If he was by himself, I would. So then who wouldn't you? Naji? Noggi, Jonathan Taylor? Eccler? I don't know. I mean, Javante was a true 21-year-old this year, wasn't he? A 21-year-old running back, I believe, which is... What's a false 21-year-old?

Well, I mean, he played his entire rookie season at the age 21, which historically, analytically, analytically, that's a big marker for success for fantasy. And yes, right now he is still 21 years old. It seems like he is worthy of, I mean, you do have, you have all these question marks, and yet the talent and the age is so in your face as a dynasty player. You know, you don't know who the quarterback is, the head coach.

Right? I mean... A lot of questions. So maybe you can get them far cheaper. That team is built to... It's a turnkey offense for a new quarterback and a new head coach. You have three great wide receivers all under contract, right? And you have an incredible running back. And you've got a good tight end pair. So, I mean, it's turnkey. Yeah, the skill positions... Tom Brady should go to Denver, is what I'm saying. Aaron Rogers should go to Denver. Yeah, no, I mean, he could. DeAndre Swift at 19, consistency rank of 16.

DeAndre Swift is someone I would not trade for Giovante. You'd rather have DeAndre Swift. Because as of right now, we're more confident that he is, we know what he is more than Giovante who has had to split time so far in his rookie year. I don't know. That one would be tough. Only 151 carries for DeAndre Swift to finish 19.

Well, sure, but he missed a month of action. That was a point in his favor, Jason. Don't counter my good point. We were agreeing. Oh, I thought you were saying he only had. I said only 151 carries to get to 19 in them. You know, that's not a lot of carries. 62 receptions missing time. Yeah. He is a dynamic pass catcher that makes things happen in the open field. Now, there's talk this week. Jared Goff's part of the future.

He's under, his contract says he is definitely part of the 2022 plans. I always, you knew that as soon as the trade was completed, you knew he was going to be the starter for two years. You're taking Swift over Chubb, I assume, next year in the draft. Yes. Take him over Aaron Jones? Yes. Okay, you take him, what are some of the names we mentioned last week? You know, I'm not going to. Joe Mixen or DeAndre Swift? I would go Joe Mixen. I would go obviously the higher end guys, the Ecklers. He's not in that tier to me in a.

a redrafter, keeper league. But the Lions... Swift over Sequin. Will... Yes. Oh, for sure. Over the last decade, here are the running backs with 100 plus receptions and 15 plus touchdowns in the first two years of the NFL. Ready? I'm ready. Seque one. Okay. CMC. He's good. Camara. Great. David Johnson. Oh, man. Devante Freeman. Levian Bell. And now DeAndre Swift. So his recipe, like the recipe for Dandre Swift is pure fantasy football dominance. Yeah.

That's how he's built. I mean, he's built to be an 80 reception running back. So. And the lions are going to get better as a team and as an offense. I'm not saying that they are going to be a great offense, but they were. No, you're right. Darn near as bad as you could have been, especially skill-wise. I mean, you had Amin-Ross, St. Brown, come through at the end of the year, really show a breakout. But look at the.

We just talked about all the weapons in Denver. It's the exact opposite situation in Detroit. And it's got the Detroit odor to hit. Like that happens where you just don't count on a running back, right? The running backs haven't worked out in Detroit for a really, really long time. So is it easier to acquire DeAndre Swift or Giovante Williams in a dynasty league in your mind? I think it would be easier to acquire Giovante. That's how I think so too. Yeah. And just the.

Yeah, I agree. 15% great game, 62% good, 31% bus was really good against top defenses that speaks to the past catching, I think, was the running back 7 from week 1 through 11. You had the guns Mahoney tease at the end of the year. We're going to get him back. We're going to, I mean, DeAndre Swift essentially wasn't himself from week 12 on. Because when he came back, they limited. So he's probably worthy of.

taking a chance at the Echler type of season. Like DeAndre Swift has a top five season in him. Well, before he got injured, I mean, so the injury happened the exact same time as Derek Henry in week eight. So you look at that, that's a large part of the, that's the first half of the season. And during that part of the season, I talked about how Derek Henry was so much better than everyone else behind him. But right behind him was DeAndre Swift. He was the running back three through the first half of the season. That was with the bad.