Player Price Check + Bad Trade Offers

stabs that are starting running back. I don't see a world where even with the workload, LaShawn McCoy all of a sudden gets his yards per carry back, his touchdowns up, is, you know, he's super efficient. The mileage on him as a smaller back. Yeah. I think he's, I think he has hit the wall. I mean, I was, he was one of my guys. I was the most down on last season going into last year as far as just like, I, I'm out and I'm not getting back in just because of, you know,

What round was a good value for Love Bell last year? Like there wasn't one. There's some players where it's just going to be a bad pick. And that's what I think shady is. Buffalo has, they have so many running backs on their team. It's, it's insane. And it's, what's unfortunate is like in other situations, a third round running back, you might be excited. And in Devon Singletary was one of those guys that he was, I mean, very polarized, but had huge plays.

in college. We would be projecting by the end of the year that Devon Singletary would be the starter of this team, and he certainly could be. He just has a lot more in front of it. He has a lot more guys that he has to actually pass. So, wow, regularly you might be talking about halfway through the year. Okay, Singletary might be able to start over or take over, but it might not be until the last 25% of the season. Yeah, and you wonder how a team moves on from a big trade acquisition like McCoy.

and the overrated nature of the name, it persists with the coaching staff, too. You might not give up on a guy like that as soon as you would think. I can remember DeMarco Murray being a player that it took quite a bit of time to realize the inefficiencies of DeMarco Murray on an offense because of what they were. That can be one of the checkmarks against Devin Singletary taking the reins early. I do think it's kind of, you know, if McCoy had massive passing.

efficiency last year and just couldn't run the ball. I'd be like, okay, he can still contribute here, but you didn't see a rapport between him and Josh Allen. Right. And next year, just speaking for Devin Singletary, he will be the guy. McCoy's contract is done after this year. Frank Gore. 42. Frank Gore will still be playing in the league more than likely, but he won't be a Buffalo bill. It's a one-year contract. I think T.J. Eldons is equally as low. Did Frank Gore go to Buffalo because Fred Jackson?

because Fred Jackson had such a long career. Well, what Fred Jackson told them about. Is that cryogenic cold up there in Buffalo? No, it's the pool. It's from Wanted. Oh, the restoration pool. Yes. That's up in Buffalo. Yeah, they found it. I got to stop by there next time I'm in Buffalo. Oh, a two out of ten for that joke. Oh, wow.

I thought it was at least a four. Are you going to start doing that on the show, Jay? Just put a number down? Yeah, for sure. And, you know, I should really do it more like... Now, it's out of 10, but the numbers you put down are between two and four, right? You can't even see it. We're going to have to get you some of those cards. You just hold them up. Like the Russian judge? Like the dunk contest. That's exactly what I'm thinking of dunk contest. Brooks put that on the list. We'll definitely get... We'll get two sets. And when you say one of those jokes, Jason and I will both hold those up.

If you get the set Brooks and you can only get like one through four number wise because it's cheaper, that's all you'll need. He already hit a 10 out of 10 today. He did? Yeah. What was that one? I don't remember. Okay. All right, let's go to. Let's do a little ADP price check for a couple of Steelers. Dante Moncrief, Vance McDonald. I think there was a news report that came out earlier today about the ball being spread around.

In Pittsburgh with the absence of Antonio Brown, you've got Moncrief, you've got Washington. What do you think? What do you think? Moncrief, to me, I'm going like, you know, I would guess he's undrafted. Yeah, very, very late, if not undrafted. We still aren't. Because you're not sure. Is it James Washington or Dante Moncrief? And honestly, that's a, if you did draft capital of James Washington, second round pick, his second year in the league, that still holds.

value for the team, but they gave Moncrief a decent two-year deal. I think it was $5 million off. That's off the top of my head. I can look. But Dante Moncrief, I mean, like, 13-07? I'm going to guess like 8-0-09. We have very different opinions of Dante. He's 13-08. That's where his draft place is right now. What did you guess, Mike? I guess 13-0-something. Yeah, you said 13-0-7.

Wow, yeah. You were way off. Now, Jason, you have the highest of our group. Dante Moncrief is one of those. I'm going to use one of my later picks in a best ball league on Dante Moncrief because he's going to have a monster play four times this year. Yeah, I mean, a best ball pick is great. He's got a very comparable skill set ability when it comes to like Martavis Bryant, who obviously dominated with Big Ben, just running that.

Nine route faster than everybody else, getting down there catching a touchdown, then he's going to slap the base. You know, in a redraft league, I'm not a big fan. When I say that, you know, 809 or 810, whatever I said, that's what I assumed people might be putting on him. I'm not wanting to take the shot at, I've actually just kind of gotten to the place where I decided I'm not wanting to take the shot at the number two.

You know, is it going to be James Washington? Is it going to be Dante Moncrief? Is it going to be Deontay Johnson? Yeah. It will not be Deontay Johnson. I will be on record. Okay. And I will be on record just saying if a two comes out of the Steelers as a dominant, you know, if a wide receiver two comes out and just dominates for fantasy football, he won't be on my team.

Like, because I'm not going to take the risk. So let's, let's take the gamble there between James Washington, Deontay Johnson, and Dante Moncrief. Who do you think has the best chance? Moncrief. I agree. To end up a solid number two. Yeah. Take the vet who's had success before, you know.

It's a sneaky pickup for Pittsburgh. Probably better for their team than it is for fantasy. Yeah. How about Vance McDonald's Steelers tight-in? Where's his average draft position right now? Jason, you have him seven in your tight-in rankings. Mike eight, I have him nine. We all like him. He's our seventh by consensus. Where do you think he's going in drafts, though? Because I think we all know he's probably in that value range. Maybe. I think he's going as a top 10.

Yeah, tight end currently. So I would put him in the seventh round. I'll say 706. You say 706, Jason? I'm right about there. I'm going to go 707. Oh, you jerk. I'm going to guess, and I don't know this one, I'm going to guess 805. Okay. Brooks, do you want to do the reveal on these for us? Ooh. Yes. Where's Vance going right now? Vance dance is going 708. Oh, the winner is me. Price is right. I did it.

Tight end number nine. Are you happy with that price? I mean, that's, I mean, we should be. Yeah, to, uh, hopefully me bringing this name up doesn't cast a giant shadow, but I mean, that was Trey Burton range last year where you are, you're still paying because it means a seventh round pick. You know, there's some wide receiver two's possibly still available. There's, there's real depth you can be adding to your team instead of a tight end who still feels.

a bit like a flyer, but Vance McDonald also, to me, has a very high ceiling. We've seen it a few times with the Steelers, and he finally was able to overcome and become the number one tight-in on the depth chart. Yeah, and Antonio Brown is going to turn into Moncrief, DeLte Johnson, James Washington, Vance McDonald. That's right.

That's the Antonio Brown target. You're not going to have a real target increase for juju. You might have touchdown increase for juju. Targets can't go up a lot. Those four guys are going to share them. Vance McDonald, he's priced exactly where I have him ranked, so I'm probably not jumping at him, but it'll just be team determination at that point in the draft. And if you can take Vance McDonald and get a decent portion, if not most of what Jesse James, their former tight end had, and then just get a nice.

just like a little cut, a little give me 10 to 15% cut from Antonio Brown. Vance McDonald becomes sensational in the target department. Yeah, I mean, who's going to earn Big Ben's loyalty on that offense? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I would put Vance McDonald the head of the aforementioned Dante Moncrief as far as target, you know, the second in targets, you know, as a receiver. Just for a reminder. I'm not crazy about him here.

Because to me, there's still a lot of other good running backs and wide receivers. While he's ranked kind of appropriately here, I would rather take more wide receivers than running backs that have better odds to be difference makers than I'm going to find in the double digit rounds. Because you brought up the perfect name, Mike. Trey Burton last year. He was about this round. And guess what he did? He finished right there. He actually, he didn't disappoint. You know, last year, Trey Burton was the number seven tight end.

He was gross, though. There's not a single person who was happy they drafted title. No. Trey Burton last year. No, we liked him a lot. And he finished number seven. The thing about this is, and we talked about it in our player profile in the UDK about Vance McDonald's. The idea is this is not a hyper-athletic type of player to me. This is a player that didn't. Vance? Yeah. He's got juice. He's got juice, but we know what he is.

You're not talking about him walking into a new offense being the... Trey Burton was the next Travis Kelsey because he never got enough play and enough... You've seen Vance McDonald on the field and then. So... So I'm stiff-arm a guy out of the league. I told you that that's going to color... That's going to color the athletic profile too much. He's not built and he didn't test in a fashion that was hyper-impression. He's no Trey Burton, is my point. From a physical specimen standpoint. He comps out as a Brent-Cellic type of...

player. He ran a 4-6-9. He was 86 percentile and speed score. I'll take an 86 percentile speed score. That's where he was. Yeah, I'll take that. But last year he had 73 targets. That's 12th at the position. So that's what I'm saying where. Lose Jesse James. And he's, and that wasn't only 15 games. There's why he's being selected there is the, the narrative that you have to paint for Vance McDonald to go from 73 to high 80s. I mean, it's not, it's not a.

Huge stretch. If you get high 80s, you are still going to be disappointed. And I think that's, you know, you had 77 for Trey Burton last year. I feel like if I don't get one of the top five, I'll include O.J. Howard targets from Ben Rafflesberger and over 90 targets from Mitch Trubisky. Sure, that's fair. But my point for me, this season of 2019, I would, I would include O.J. Howard and Evan Ingram.

as you know my top five tight-ins that i'm willing to to draft and then if i don't get one of those guys i'm pretty much out until one of my last picks and i'll take whoever some vet that drops super late at gregg olson or a i'll grab vance if he drops to the to the ninth tenth round okay uh let's talk about saints running back latavius murray we've got him at consensus 32

I think one of the more interesting things to talk about with Latavius is what if something happens to Alvin Camara. Camara's had some concussion issues before. You know, he's been pretty durable. He's been a monster in the red zone. But when you talk about the value you get with Latavis, you get the side running back numbers in New Orleans, and then you get this insane.

upside if something happened to Alvin Camara. Where do you think Latavius is going? We have him as our consensus 32. I think he's going in the middle of the seventh. I'll go 706. And I think he is a great value there for what I'm looking for. I think he is more of an eighth round player. I will go 802. I will say, well, Brooks, you ruined it.

You ruined it. Oh, Brooks. I highlighted it on the screen while I was looking at it. So I'm out. And also when you're seventh round. 707. Is that right, Brooks? Good job, Andy. 707. Wait, did you give him that one? This hogwash. I think when you're talking about the upside of Latavius Murray, you are not properly accounting for Juvius Allen. I disagree.

I think we are properly accounting for Buck Allen. I am being facetious. Yeah, Buck Allen, people want to know, does it matter? No. No. No. Not at all. No. If you look at what Mark Ingram has been able to do, and you can go back, this isn't just Mark Ingram. You can go back and look when Mark Ingram was the one, and there were other twos. You can go look before Mark Ingram was in the league and how they would use multiple backs. Sean Payton and Drew Breeze have great running back.