Surprise Live Draft Episode! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 3/2

You know, I just watched that insane workout video from like a week ago where he's doing pull-ups and then with his feet holding a hundred-pound dumbbell? Yeah. And not just doing pull-ups, just crushing, crushing pull-ups like they're nothing. Like he's lifting a butterfly up with his hundred-pound extra weight held by his feet. The thought of doing a pull-up with an extra hundred-pound. The thought of doing a pull-up. Incredibly hard. Some of us can crank out a couple pull-ups here and there. But an extra hondo. Last year's number two running back. That's superhero stuff. Rahim Mustard is the first pick of the ninth round. Then Brock Purdy goes in the ninth. Kyle Pitts in the ninth. Hollywood saw some Hollywood to Jacksonville mutterings. So, I mean, because he's going to potentially, I mean, he's a free agent. Nobody talks about it. I want your guys' help here on wide receiver. Give us a couple names.

You've got the board up in front of you as well. Right now, ADP-wise, it would be Jacoby Myers, Cortland Sutton, Keon Coleman, Tyler Lockett. So I'm not in love with any of those players. No, it doesn't feel like somebody's standing out. I mean, Ladd, Ladd-McConkey's coming soon. Yeah, I should be able to get him at the next turn. His ADP is significantly further. And so even though you might like someone more, now I guess maybe I should be looking at that second quarterback spot. Right now. Yeah, Jordan Love's there too is there. Jordan Love is a very good value. He's usually pick 85 and we're at 108. So I'll take Jordan Love unless he goes right here. Yeah, you're just one pick away. Is this the first time I can say a name and get him? We'll find out. We get 18 seconds to find out if you get snipped on Jordan Love. And then you guys need to help me with the next one. Yeah, Swift, who doesn't have a team went at 106. Chase Brown ahead of him.

Really? Zimir White at 107. Jason, you were on the clock. I do think. Oh, that's a. Would you go Jordan Love or would you go toua, Mike? Um, you know Tua is going to have a hot start. He always does. Yeah. Got to get a contract, too, by the way. They are talking. They are talking. They are talking. They are talking about. They are talking about. They are talking. I think I would go. 10 seconds. I think I'd go Jordan. If I'm taking a quarterback, I think I'm going Jordan Love. I've got him queued up. So I'm going to let the clock run out. So.

it takes him so I can keep looking. Keon Coleman saw him mocked in a first round position recently. Yeah. It's hard to take some of these older wide receivers that, you know, I'm basically between Tyler Lockett and Keon Coleman here. So do I go? I don't like Lockett. Old veteran or young rookie? I don't like Lockett. All right. I think if you want the opinion. I think I would take a rookie and just hope you got the Kansas City Chiefs guy. Sure. All right. So I'm going to take. He's got two shots out of now with Franklin and Kean Coleman. I will end this draft with probably seven rookies. Like I will, as it gets later and later, there are rookies that I like that I've scouted that I think are good. I think they'll make an impact this season. And they're usually sorted in with veterans who are just dudes that.

do so little. So to keep everyone caught up here, Jason's team so far, AJ Brown, Jonathan Taylor, that's how you started out, then Jalen Hurts Devontas Smith to complete your Philadelphia Eagles super stack. You're risking it on old man Derek Henry hoping he ends up in Baltimore, Dallas, I would imagine. Calvin Ridley, David Najoku, incoming rookie Troy Franklin, Jordan Love, and incoming rookie Keon Coleman. So, How you feel? I feel pretty good. I don't have any major problems. Any indigestion? It's good. Always. Always indigestion. I mean, 100% of my life. So obviously I'm really short at running back. That's where I'm going to be looking here soon, hopefully get some, you know, a Trey Benson, some of these rookies that are coming in. What are some running back names that you'd be thinking about? Because we're in round 10, round 11. Again, we're going.

It's a 20-round draft, but is there anybody with tremendous upside that you're like, hey, I hope this guy gets all the way back around to me? I would say the rookie combination of Trey Benson and Blake Quorum are guys that I am very, very interested in considering I only have two older running backs right now. Don Tavian Wicks, I would love him as an explosive downfield threat that pairs with Jordan Love to stack there. pretty much where I'm looking. And then I'm also going to start thinking about tight ends and go through the list and try to highlight like what guys later I would like to pair with Nojoku to, you know, maybe a Michael Mayer. Do you have, so Jake Ferguson just went at pick 117. Any regrets of not taking Jake Ferguson over Keel Coleman? He did cross my mind at that point. The problem is the wide receivers, you know, you're going to need.

eight, nine wide receivers here. And when you don't take the shot at a good wide receiver and Keon Coleman, you're going to end up with your roster filled with, you know, Jonathan Mingoes. Yeah, it's interesting. I feel like I should, because now we've revealed that Kyle snuck into this draft when you posted the link. I'm going to read his team as well, Mike. You can react to it. Sure. Bejohn was his first pick. He was the Marvin Harrison drafter. He also got Diggs in the third round. That's interesting because he went ahead of Pittman and Evans. He got Stefan Diggs. I believe he said about eight picks after ADP. That seems good. Kelsey in the fourth. So Diggs and Kelsey, he's going ADP value there. Kenneth Walker and David Montgomery. Those are two running backs I've been targeting at their ADP all over. No regret over Henry over Montgomery there. Potential?

Potential, yeah. I like both players this season. If you swapped Montgomery with Henry, I would feel identical about my team. And then Brian Thomas Jr., Justin Fields, Romeo Dobbs, Tyler Lockett. I think the Fields pick, that's a Homer pick. He expects him to land in Atlanta. Kyle, you can weigh in. Is he on the microphone today? Kyle, you're not invisible. Was I accurate with your field selection? Oh, yeah, I'm manifesting the stack. Yeah, that was a, that was, oh, manifesting a stack. That's a new strategy. That's smart. Draft it into existence. Yeah. Let me give you a quick rundown here. By the way, what was your reaction to Kyle's team there, Mike? I think it's a good combo so far. I love the Travis Kelsey pick in the fourth. Stefan Diggs is such a struggle because the name power.

Still is so tremendous. I feel like you were the most emotionally impacted by what happened. I don't know if it was confusion, befuddlement. It's like the values there, apics after ADP. But I like we talked about in our truth episode, J.D. I need Trey Pinson. I need them to get to me. So you're three picks out by the way. I don't remember the swing of where Stefan digs his second half truth score, but it was. something like wide receiver 80 something. Yeah, it was like 86. It was a player who was actively harming your team and the OC was brought back. So it's, Stefan Diggs is a, is a player that I still don't know what to do with. Jason is on the clock. I'm on the clock. I'm going to take Trey Benson. With my other one, do you guys think I should be going wide receiver, tight end, you know, if you look at those two or potentially another running back?

I think you named all four positions. I did not name a quarterback. Okay. So you're going to let Tray Brint, so you like Benson more than even like Jalen Wright, who's kind of being talked about right now. Yes, yes. I think he'll be drafted higher. You know, Ferguson was somebody in the previous selection that I thought maybe you'd consider, but I guess I'd go wide receiver potentially. This is easy. Oh, you got your pick. I figured it out. Yeah. I'm, oh, I'm grabbing my lad. Ladd McConkey. player that all three of us like. We're much higher than consensus of rookie wide receiver. Yeah, Ladd McConkey at 133. No, I just want to comment like your last four wide receiver selections, they have no teams. Yeah, that's true. But all four will have teams. Yes, they will. So I'm not too. I mean, you know, it's one of those things where at this time of the year, there is some randomness that is completely outside of your control, right? Like I could have bi-week problems.

You know, but right, yeah. Jalen Hurts, Jordan Love, they have the same bye week. Whoops! You know, and maybe that is an argument to take the approach this time of year for three quarterbacks, three tight-end approach as opposed to grabbing those studs. Since you don't know by weeks and teams sometimes, but yeah, I'm stacking up the rookies here too. Corum would have gone ahead of Benson had he been there for you because Blake Corum ended up going on 125. I would have drafted Benson ahead of quorum, but that's how I see it. Just because you have no decorum. Hey-oh. All right, quick break back with the rest of the 12th round in Jason's budding Philadelphia Eagles slash rookie roster. Well, Kyle the Borgogan, the analytics, you know, Beast himself really paid attention to.

Gabe Davis is Instagram. And Gabe Davis was dropping the analytics. And Kyle said, you know what? I'm in because 138 Kyle, Gabe Davis on your roster. A little pat on the butt to the analytics crew. Gabe the babe is made for best ball. I don't even know what team he's on, but I like it. Yeah. I mean, he has, he has definitely made for. I think the wide receiver two for Josh Allen is made for best ball. So you're calling for it. If Gabe doesn't go back to Buffalo. I'm out. You know the perfect home for Gabe Davis, right? Buffalo. No, no, no. He goes where his archetype goes or went. Who was just released? MVS. Yeah, he's like MVS. Oh, all right. I'll be back in. I'll be back in. Uh, but deep touchdowns. Uh, Xavier Worthy at 140. Demerio Douglas. Um, at 143.

I'm not sure what the confidence level on DeMario Douglas is. I almost offered you, Mike, a trade in our dynasty. And I had it one for one. I don't know what the, I didn't do it. But I was sending you to Mario Douglas. And I was going to have you send me Rashad Bateman. Oh. And I didn't know what to do. So I had it like ready to send. And I'm like, I. That's an interesting. Because I also have Zay flowers. Oh, I didn't see. So that might have been. It may have been, but we're both kind of on that. I don't know, man. I know. I've seen, which side would you like better? I saw the film of Rashad Bateman. What was the trade offer? I was offering Damario Douglas to Mike for Rashad Bateman. That was going to be the straight up dynasty trade. But I didn't, I wavered, I didn't hit the button. I'm still maybe interested. I don't know. I would take the still hopeful upside of Bateman.

But that was said with some real malaise. Yeah, because it's not going to happen. Because Douglas is a, he's a floor player where you're just, you're hoping that the reception total goes up, but trapped in a terrible offense. But Rashad Bateman is, Rashad Bateman feels like it's just going to be. I think he's trapped in a situation that you are just desperately praying that. Once he gets off the team, he can resurrect his career, which is, boy, what a place to be. Those are not good dynasty bets that I suggest people should make. All right. I'm going to ask you guys about tight ends. I'm going to take a tight end here. Right now, the top two on ADP are Pat Friarmouth and Darren Waller. Right. Which one do you guys like better out of those two? Boy, it's a question of whether you think the ship has sailed on Darren Waller, and I tend to think it has.

So I think I would, I'd probably lean the Frymeuse side and hope that, um, the, the Johnny Smith, Arthur Smith, uh, um, Mewth gets luth. That's how I lean. That's where I was. That's who I'm hoping for. So he will go immediately. So before, uh, for just to speak Darren Smith. Pat Farmer. Did he go? He went. Yep. Right then. So for Darren Waller, not trying to talk to you in. Talk him up. Talk him up. He's all that's left. So last year before the injury in week eight, best ball format, he would have given you three spike weeks of 10.6, 12.6 and 19.3. Okay. Then I will take Darren Waller. After he came back from the injury. He's very good for bestball. After the injury, though, he did nothing. No, I think that's a great basketball pick at 156. And then I'm going to go.

with yet another running back. He's my third running back overall, Braylen Allen. Oh, baby. I was going to try and talk to you on your last turn. I'm a little higher on Braylin Allen than I've been all off season, actually. Oh, welcome in. Are you pretty? Is he at your two? Yeah, he's just, he's a Hulk. Like, he is the incredible Hulk. Did you watch 2022 versus 23 film on Braylin Allen? No, just 23. He was less hulky in 2022, but it seemed like yet a little more. A little more juice, but I'm actually pretty in on Braylin Allen contributing at the next level. There's a bunch of these, you know, scatback, third downback guys. I'm not interested. Like I would definitely take, like, Bucky Irving went ahead of Braylin Allen. I would much, I'd be on the Allen side on that. The thing for Braylin Allen to me is it won't surprise me if this is all or nothing. Like he has the physical capability, like his muscles and his body is.

This is the prototypical guy who could go in and be a three-down running back. He has- He has chops at, like he can catch. I wouldn't say his receiving work is elite by any means. But it's something that he can do. And his production profile and breakout age are redonculous. I think he's still 20 right now. He's like a baby boy. Those are great picks. Those might have been the best picks of the draft, in my opinion. The Waller Allen combo. for your roster. Let me give you a rundown of round 13 for those listening and not watching. If you're on YouTube, the draft board is up on the screen and you can follow along. But Jason went McConkey and then Darren Waller and then it went Johnston, Irving, Friarmouth, Yoshivas, the shot on Yoshivas in Cincinnati, Wondale, Drake May. Oh, I'm reading the wrong direction.

Yep, my screen was not wide enough. That's the backwards order of the 13th round for those interested in the backwards order. Pause the show. Play it in reverse. I felt like something was wrong when Yoshi Voss was going right before Wondale. But no, it's Mayor Cooks, McLaughlin, Adnoy Mitchell, who I really like. I know Jason's on the other side of that one. Deshawn Watson, Drake May, back to back. Drake May at 150. And then Robinson, Yoshivas, Fryermouth, had a Jason Irving, Johnston, Waller, Braylon Allen, and then Alger, Mayfield, Roman Wilson. That's an interesting name. Aaron Rogers at 161, Mike. Yeah, I was looking at with Baker and Aaron Rogers going there. And now Gino Smith just went all in the 14th round. Jay, how do you feel about your going in on Jordan Love in the ninth round?

I'm not saying like I'll have Jordan Love ranked over those guys but when you only need one player on a given week Aaron Rogers if he's healthy he's off my board I wouldn't draft really okay yeah you feel like no spike weeks from Rogers coming I feel like we're not enough that's a surprising take because Garrett Wilson and Aaron Rogers should have some weeks They could have weeks. I think Aaron Rogers, I guess he's gone from should you could in your mind. I didn't get a chance last year, but I felt like Aaron Rogers lost a step his last year in Green Bay and he wasn't going to be very good. Last year we didn't get to see. Maybe he would have been awesome and been the MVP form he was just two years prior. But now another year older coming off of an Achilles with my belief that he had lost a bit.

Beforehand, I'm just like, I don't want it. Let me bring up a name. By the way, there are gambles to be made in bestball when it comes to players coming off of injury. For instance, T.J. Hawkinson went with the last pick of the 10th round. And we know he's going to miss a little bit of time or is likely to miss time to start the year. At what point would you start glancing the direction of a recently mentioned player who posted a video of him running? but J.K. Dobbins or somebody like that. Like, when do you start considering, you know, we're in the range now of running back names where ADP-wise, you're into, you know, Elijah Mitchell, Antonio Gibson, and Damien Pierce, who was, you know, people completely dunk on him for last year, but he was hurt for a part of the year as well. Rico Dowdle and Kenneth Gainwell, like,

suddenly the injured upside of certain players may look tantalizing. Yeah, when you get this far in, I mean, that's about where you start looking at J.K. Dobbins. Now, I would rather take, so like, they're near in ADP to one another, Ray Davis and J.K. Dobbins. Ray Davis is an incoming rookie. He's older, which I don't like, but his profile is very good, very productive, great pass catcher, was very good at the Senior Bowl. This late, I would go Ray Davis over JK Dobbins, but he would, J.K. Dobbins is definitely in play. So Jalen Wright went 172, rookie running back, Jalen Wright, Joshua Palmer at 174. I think that is a little bit sneaky. Yeah. And then Kiborg, his last three picks have been Wondale, Marvin Mims, and Traylon Burks. I like the Traylon Burks one. Oh, good body. Jalen Polk at 176, another rookie on the way in. Jason, your three picks out. You just took Waller.

And Alan? Hoping for Ray Davis. He won't, I'm sure, get to me because they don't usually. And then I'm sitting here with... Okay, you're one pick away, Jason. You have a chance at Ray Davis. Antonio Gibson off the board, a 178. And then I think I'd like to put a wide receiver, another wide receiver on my team. So why don't you guys look at that and... Look at for wide receivers? Yeah, see if there's a wide receiver... that you especially like. I know that there's a rookie I like, but maybe there's a vet. Yeah, I mean, Rashad Bateman is the name that we just talked about in that trade area, and he is on the board. That's a name that I would be considering. I'm surprised you're glossed over Jalen Hyatt there, Andy. Yeah, he's gloss-worthy, man. Oh, no. Your guy, your guy is out. Yeah, I like Jalen Hyatt. I just, it's hard to paint the picture of, like, I think they, they're definitely going to take a top.

Have you guys watched Ricky Pearsall? Yeah. Do you like them or not? Because I'm in on him. Kyle's out on him. Yeah, I'm me. I'm meh. You're meh. I'm with him. You took Ray Davis, by the way. You got him at 180. Yes. Mike is in the meh camp. All right. So you would take Bateman and basketball is interesting. You would take Bateman over Pearsall. Then I will do the same. Oh, look at that. Bateman. Bateman. Can't talk. Can't talk. Ray Davis, Rashad Bateman. He won't make it back now. And you took Ray Davis, so it didn't want to try and talk to you to it. But at what point does Elijah Mitchell become an interesting? Because you don't, this is, again, we don't, we love Christian McCaffrey, but you have to play, you know, different scenarios. And in best ball, it's everything kind of goes right for your team. If, there you go. And Elijah Mitchell just went. Yeah.

If McCaffrey misses time, Elijah Mitchell is incredible. There will be star running backs next year that get injured and miss. And their backups will be great picks. So those are players you do want to look for. Last year, Jerome Ford was a very great last, you know, late round pick because unfortunately Chubb went down. Now, you're just kind of playing a little luck when you do that. But at the same time, Jerome Ford is drafted in 100% of leagues. So someone's team got really, you know, if, oh, you didn't draft them, well, someone else did and they get those points. So you do sometimes need to take shots at those insurance running backs when there is a clear line of succession. Elijah Mitchell would probably be the best example of that. What's your thought process with your tight end and quarterback situation right now, Jason? You have, I think, five picks remaining, right? Yep. Or sorry, four picks remaining. I definitely want.

So I've got two more turns. Like if Derek Carr came back, would you select him? No, I'm done with Jalen Hertz and Jordan Love. As in you're content with those two. Jalen Hertz is a very consistent score. I would imagine, you know, I'm playing as if he is having a good season. And if he does, he's going to crack my roster most weeks. You know, a Derek Carr or a Stafford or someone is like, They're not going to score because only one of these players scores at a time at the quarterback position. Now, you feel good about any of these tight ins that are out there? I mean, it's slim pickings right now. Noah fans a starter. Davis Allen could be a starter. I like Davis Allen quite a bit. I actually think Hunter Henry finds a good home this off season and has been a touchdown machine. And Greg Dulcich is another player. Four bedroom, five bedroom. He's going to bring up the D.

Yeah, Greg Dulcich is a guy I have been targeting quite a bit. See, I thought he was thinking about Peanix. Yeah, Michael Peanix. Greg Dulcich. What if, wait, there is a legit chance that Peanix could get drafted by Denver. This show. And he would be throwing it to the deep. This show. Peens, it's the D. And our sophomoric brains could not comprehend that happen. I dare you to go, Dulcich, Phoenix with these next two picks. It would, I dare you. It would fold in on itself. You can create black holes with situations like that. Oh, man, how funny. Right? Well, I was, I was really hoping for Allen, but he got drafted. Davis Allen off the board. McCarthy, by the way. J.J. McCarthy went at 192.

Derek Carr at 191, so you weren't going to have a shot at him anyway. Carr would have been a little tempting to me, but I understand what you're saying. Like, Hertz, selecting them where you did, you're trying to buy yourself a roster spot elsewhere, right? Right, exactly right. And I look at it that way. When you take an early guy, I'm saying I get an extra running back or wide receiver. If you're drafting and spending high capital, you know, if you go and say, I'm going to get Sam Laporta. And I'm going to spend a second round pick on that. And then you're going to fill in more tight ends later. It's like, well, either you hit with Leporta, and he's going to be the one scoring almost every week, or you whiffed with Leporta, and then that's when you would need the third tight end. But then if you whiffed with your second round pick, you're probably not winning the league. Right. So that's kind of how you have to approach these best ball leagues. All right. Jason's team real quick, make sure we're on the same page. AJ Brown, Jonathan Taylor.

Jalen Hertz, Devonsa Smith, Derek Henry, Calvin Ridley, David Nujoku, Troy Franklin, Jordan Love, Keon Coleman, Trey Benson, Ladd McConkey, Darren Waller, Braylan Allen, incoming rookie, Ray Davis, incoming rookie running back, both of those, and Rashad Bateman. Two quarterbacks, five wide outs, seven wide receivers, two tight ends. And this is where you start really looking at what Andy just said, the numbers of your positions. I know I'm going to end up with three tight ends. I will take one more. So that leaves me three more picks between running back and wide receiver. So I will either take two more wide receivers and a running back or two more running backs in a wide receiver. There's one running back that I think is worth gambling on here at 204. Tell me who it is. Miles Sanders.

Tell me why. He is rich. He's rich. No, last year's a broken year. Dave Canales has come in and talked about committing to the running game. Yeah. And, you know, last year was broken for that entire offense, that team. They switched head coaches. Like, you know, there's a world where there's some renewed success there. But I'm saying that out loud. I'm not the one having to make the pick. But to me, that's like this is a player that was going so tremendously high last year. High draft capital pick has had success in Philadelphia. I just feel like last year was so broken that there's a chance you could give him a pass. Okay. So if I, oh, dig comments. Pearsall off the board. He was who I was really hoping made it back. He, I'm three picks away and almost took him last round. That never happens when you're at the turn. All right. So right now I've got queued up Greg Dulcich and Miles Sanders here.

I will take your approach. I mean, we're at the place here. Are we talking wide receivers? Do you have a wide receiver you like? DeMarcus Robinson. I do love DeMarcus Robinson. For the Los Angeles, I mean, he's back, right? Yeah, he just signed a deal. He just re-upped. Okay, then you know what I'm going to do? That's what he said. He walked in and he said, I'm back, right? You know what I'm going to do? Like, yeah, here's $5 million. What are you pivoting? What is, how many tight ends is Kyle have? Kyle has not enough. Oh, he's got... He's got one. Yeah, he's got Kelsey. He's doing what you should do. If you spend a high draft capital pick on a tight end, he's just going to have two. But I don't want... Well, man, Greg Dulcich. I want to gamble with him. So you took Miles Sanders. You committed there. Yeah, so do I take to Marcus Robinson and gamble with Greg Dolsich? Yes. Okay. Well, I mean, I asked and answered. Yeah, I think you can gamble. I mean, he...