Starts of the Week + Week 8 Breakdown, Business Time! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/26

stick it to a fantasy player. There is a chance that on the goal line, when he knows it should be Bijon, something in the back of his mustached mind says, I'm going to put Cordero in there, and the fantasy players can eat my butt. I was like, I held it back because we needed to move the show forward, but when we were talking Pollard Bijon, I was going to bring up what had happened today. And be like, are you, like, are you confident in Arthur Smith that? He wouldn't do something like that because I have come to, like, I'm getting to the same conclusion that he will make decisions because he's so angry at fantasy football. Yeah, I mean, I'm not the head coach of the Falcons. I don't know what happens on the practice field every day. I, you know, he defended Desmond Ritter with the film study of, look, you know, it's group think that he stinks. And if you watch the film, you know, he doesn't. Which.

We gave Ritter the full credit. He had a great game. He did have a great game. Before that, he has looked pretty terrible. But the, my, because he brought a, he said the phrase hot hand, which if you're a coach and you truly find a player who gets hot because that does happen, good. Fire away. Let that player dominate. 21 for 59. Cold hand. Is not a hot hand. That is a, that is. That is a hand that is so cold that it burns people. This is where I was so angry last week at Tyler Algiers' usage that he's actively hurting the team. I am still of the belief that while I do not trust Arthur Smith, talent wins out. Bejohn Robinson is not going to.

into the season with fewer touches, fewer carries. Are you making the Kyle Pitts argument right now? Yeah, I think I heard Kyle Pitts in there. Well, Kyle Pitts, to be fair, he hasn't looked like himself physically. He's been good the last two weeks, getting healthier. I'm talking about last year. And the year before. Well, the year before, he had a thousand yards as a rookie. It wasn't a good fantasy output, though. Correct, because he didn't get the touchdowns. And maybe that's what happens around the goal line for Bijan, but I still am a full 100% believer that Bijan is going to have an excellent, wonderful. Like, I have no skepticism over his fantasy football output the rest of the year, including, I'm not saying he's a top three running back the rest of the year, but he's going to be great most weeks for fantasy football. I think I have massive skepticism.

Of course I do. I wish you had him in our league then. Because if the manager in my league had Bijon and had massive skepticism, I would be offering trades. To me, it's just unrealistic to say that you have to have question marks about a head coach who relentlessly plays other options all the time. It's going to hurt you. There's no question that Bejohn's talent doesn't win out if he's on the bench. Bejohn Robinson has had two games this season where he's not a top 24 running back. One of them was this last week. That's not the standard by which I'm grading him. Top 24 is not the grade for Bejohn. Bejohn Robinson, if you take this last week out where he was clearly not involved at all, he had one touch and was sick, and the NFL is investigating what happened. If you take that out, yeah, he's unfortunately not getting goal line opportunities, but he's been.

very good for fantasy. I feel like we're overreacting to him not being a top three guy. He's been really, really good. He's averaging 13.7 fantasy points per game. Yeah, that's fine. It's not what you drafted him to be. He hasn't scored a touchdown on the ground in seven weeks. This is the 29th ranked offense in football with a head coach that defends it. If you don't have any doubt about that, That blows my mind. I'm not saying he's not super talented. Put him on the Lions and he'd be the number one fantasy running back. It has nothing to do with his talent. It has everything to do with Cordero Patterson, Tyler Alger, and Arthur Smith, who wants to win. They are 29th in points per game. My point here, Andy, is like the 13.7 fantasy points per game that Bijon is averaging where you're saying you don't have skepticism. That is more than what Tony Pollard is averaging this year. And that's without any of these touchdowns.

So that's where I just have confidence. I don't think he's going to end the year with zero rushing touchdowns. Yeah, I mean, I'd like a top five performance for a guy drafted to be top five. That'd be cool. He is certainly not coming through on the top five drafted running back hopes. That part is 100% true. But I don't want to swing it so far where we think he is not a really. important asset in fantasy football. I totally agree with that. You sound like you could trade him to some people like Jason in your league if you don't believe he can be a top five guy because they believe that he can be. You just, you have to get such a haul, though. I don't know what players I'm real confident that I would trade Bijon for because I'm Sequin Barclay. Would you rather have Bejon or Seyquan? Okay. So that's a flip from draft season. Sure. So Tennessee.

Atlanta. We're talking about Bijon a lot because there's not a lot to talk about in this match. You're not playing quarterbacks. You're not playing wide receivers, except for maybe Drake London. You can play Drake London. Tennessee is 26 adjusted. They're giving up 32 points to the wide receiver position. And then, you know, Hopkins is dependent on Levison Willis, so I'd try to bench him. I would not play Hopkins. Derek Henry, you play him. Bejohn, you should be back out there. And Kyle Pitts, you know, As long as you understand that playing Johnny Smith is the exact same equation as playing Kyle Pitts, I mean, it is exactly the same. You have the exact same odds. I mean, Johnny Smith's been a top five tight-in two times in four weeks. Yeah, Johnny Smith's running the normal tight-end routes while Kyle Pitts runs deep wide receiver routes that aren't coming through more often than not. Yeah, it's just been...

Man, did you guys realize how the snaps have been way down for pits? The last three weeks, 53%, 55%. I'm not going to hit it because that's not nice. I mean, those were the weeks he came through. You know, he had the good game against Houston and Washington, but down to 52% against Tampa Bay. For me, it's Bejohn, Derek Henry, Drake, London in this match. And then I don't want to play. Johnny Smith averaging more fancy points per game than Kyle Pitts is here. There's a lot of people that don't let Pitts go off their bench. that would obviously not even rostered Johnny Smith. And that's the kind of like weird contrast that I think is funny. New Orleans is three and four. The Colts are three and four. The Drafking Sportsbook line, New Orleans minus one, the overrunner is 43 and a half. This game's funny to me because Derek Carr and Gardner Minshu are not elite quarterbacks. But both of them are throwing the ball a lot. I mean, the last two games, Derek Carr has thrown the football.

So many times. I think he's averaging 52 and a half passing it. Yeah, he is. I mean, he's 50 and 55. Who's like this is a good idea? Like this is setting up to be one of those. I mean, this could be a game that's just like the Cleveland game last week. Yeah. Yeah. You want to target Indianapolis Colts games this year with what their team has been doing, their pace of play. They are smashing the over. Five of seven games have hit the over. You want to keep targeting Colts games. Pitman. You know, the ride has been bumpy, but then the end of the game, you're pretty happy. Alave. He was super squeaky wheel, too, if you want. Pittman? Yeah. He makes sense. He was invisible for the first three and a half quarters. Yeah, he was, he talked about the targets. And then he, he kind of flared up. Oh, he's being a business businessman? Yeah, he was being a business man. He also doesn't have a contract for next year. He did flip. Yes, that's a great point. He did flip it into trying to be like, man, I've, I've, I've never been a good loser. But there was squee squeak,

If you don't get what you expect target-wise and you lose, that is just obvious. I would do the same thing. I'd be like, I want to contribute to us winning. You didn't even give me the chance to help us win and we lost. Derek Carr was a streamer candidate because of this matchup, Colts defense, 23 against quarterbacks, schedule adjusted. And then Zach Moss, he didn't practice on Wednesday. You can have confidence in Camara and Taylor, right? Yes, I think so. Yeah, Taylor should be in your lineup. tough matchup against the Saints, but he's a superstar. He's getting targets. What are you guys doing with Josh Downs? Playing him. I think so. I think he's a must start in PPR to me. In full PPR, I would agree. He's getting a lot of targets from Minshu and you stay in the flames. Last three games he would be on pace for almost 1,400 receiving yards, 90 receptions, 11 touchdowns. That part is not going to stay the same. Right. Yeah.

I think Jason's right. I think you just stay in the flames. For the, just a quick note for on Taysam Hill, because I know Jason likes him this week, do pay attention to Joanne Johnson. He's back. Joanne Johnson has been missing time. And that has looked like it has had direct correlation with Taysam Hill playing more as a traditional tight end, actually catching passes. And if Juan Johnson is back to full health and playing, that could be, it could, take away from Hill's opportunity there. Yeah, it's worth pointing out. If Joanne Johnson is back, Tayson Hill is maybe a less good start, but Juan's missed the last month, and there was a change in how they used Tateon Hill the last two weeks. You don't know something crazy? Tassum Hill scored 14.8 fantasy points last week. He had a rushing touchdown, right? No, he did. He did. So 14.8 fantasy points in the week of the tight-end day.

Yes, national tight-in day. Do you want to know what 14.8 fantasy points was last year at the tight-in position? Or last week? There were so many tight-ins went off. What was it? 16th. What? That's never happened ever. Why don't they do national tight-in week every week? Unless that's wrong. Unless he's categorized differently. Maybe he's categorized as a quarterback? I think he's. Maybe that's what our site is doing. Okay. That doesn't seem possible. No, that's impossible. No, it would have been, that would have been tight in for it. Because he's listed, he's listed as a quarterback. Okay. Okay. But that's still, I mean, to be, to be quarterback 16. Right. Not playing quarterback. That's pretty good. All right. Well, that makes way more sense. Olave play in Michael Thomas or Josh Downs. Josh Downs. Okay. I have both those guys on my League of Record team and I'm playing Josh Downs over. Yeah, young, talented rookie that's shown explosiveness. Old.

middling 42 yards a game, Thomas? You can play Michael Thomas. It's not someone you have to bench here. It's a good matchup for him, but the upside is more on downside. Gardner mentioned number one in turnover. I heard it. Worthy plays. The upside down. The upside is more on downside. Yeah. The upside down is more on the downside. That's it's just how the sentence works. Okay. Shall we move on? Yep. New England's two and five taking on the might. Miami Dolphins. Miami's five and two. Palindrome. The Draft King's Sportsbook line is Miami minus nine and a half. The overender is 46 and a half. Oh, man. Andy's almost upset of the week. Oh, you've done it again. You've done it again. You've picked the wildest one to pick. I mean, how do you possibly pick these insane? Your hit rate is.

I missed one this year. Yes, you've missed one. Tannohill injury. It's like an asterisk. Like it was going well for your almost upset until the Tannahill injury. But it's a wild combination of not only have you been hitting all your almost upsets, but during the craziest ones that you just go, no, no, that's not going to happen. Nine and a half is ridiculous. New England might win the game. Miami, we don't know what these injuries. They might get blown out too. They might get blown out. Yeah. That's true. New England Patriots defeated Buffalo last week. Got some things together on offense. Miami went down again to a, you know, a team that was supposed to be a battle. It really wasn't. They got handled pretty well. And I don't know. This just feels like a big trap game for Miami in this division to me. And, you know, the fact that Tyree Kill and Rahimosa started showing up in injury reports.

compounds that obviously those have not you know is this line still nine and a half i will i assume it is it hasn't moved due to injuries i mean if you get further tyreek information the line will move so uh i just have some worries here and if tyreek is banged up waddle's been banged up it is nine the line has moved to the nine they heard the show just now would you still be almost upset Nine versus nine and a half. Yeah, yeah. Come on chicken. Yeah, I'm still and almost upset. The overrunners 46 and a half. That puts it at 2818 Miami. I just don't see that. I mean, Miami, if they, I guess if they hit the turbo button, if they plug the game shark in, they'll do their thing and they'll dominate New England. Part of it is also the Patriots have scored, did you say they're implied as 18? Yep. The Patriots have scored 18 or more points.

in two of seven games. Yeah. I know one was last week and they, like the offense, they looked good. Mac Jones had a very strong game, 25 of 30, 270 passing hours, two touchdowns. Like they looked good, but that's to, for them to be fixed after six weeks of putrid football, not just bad, putrid football, we will see. They did play in week two. And Miami won by a touchdown. Mostard had a big game against them. Tyreek scored. Doesn't generally have huge yardage games against them. So that's something to keep in mind. Mac Jones had the best week he's had last week for this team. You saw DeMario Davis get involved. Douglas. Yeah, you know what? I was about to correct it. And I was like, wait. Neither of you said anything. So I was like, because then I went immediately. It was like, what is that? Yeah. Who's this?

Who's that guy? A Saints linebacker. Thank you, Kyle. Yeah, that's what I, that's why I sent itself familiar. Ramandre, Ezekiel Elliott, both players were pretty good last week. They're both in play. Zeke, Zeke was, he's been top 24, two weeks in a row, and then Ramondre six targets the last two weeks. Where are your question marks in this game? Mike, big question. Are you staying in the flames with Kendrick Bourne? That's my biggest question mark is, what is the health of the rest of the wide receivers? Because if Kendrick Bourne is going to get starter snaps, which he has for three straight weeks, then I will play Kendrick Bourne. But I don't, like, I don't have full confidence that they're just going to be like, okay, you're back to 50% of the snaps because the Patriots have done this to him over and over and over. It's coincided with Juju Smith-Schuster's concussion. And I'm looking at the New England Patriots injury report. Juju is not on it.

So I just don't see any information. So I assume he's practicing in full. I just don't know if the three for six that he was bringing to the table or the one for 14 or the one for five. It's a matter of snaps. No, I know, but the snaps were going down for him. So they were dropping. They're getting different players involved. It's kind of, it's like what happened in New York with the Giants. Like the Giants have a plethora of receivers and all of a sudden we're like, oh, it's more Wondale. It's more Slate now. And, and. Juju was getting to 50% or less snaps the last two weeks anyway. And his games correlated with Douglas being hurt over a couple of them. So I'm just speculating here. But if I'm New England, I'm looking at not Juju as a primary target in this offense. Yeah. So it will be, it's a sketchier start for Kendrick Bourne. But I believe that if he's a starter and gets the snaps, he will be, he'll be solid for like a flex play at least for fantasy.

And even though the matchup is pretty good, you know, you have people needing to score against the dolphins. It looks like Juju is back. He's been removed from the practice report. I'm not going to start Douglas, Bourne, or Juju. I'm going to just wait a week. I'm going to wait a week see how it plays out. I don't think I'm going to miss out on something so incredible by not starting one of those guys. Ramsey and Howard should be back too. Yeah, so the matchup might not be as good as it looks on paper. And, yeah, no thank you. If Tyreek missed the game, you probably, I mean, according to the line and according to what this offense has done, there should be another wide out that you can dance with. Whether it's likely Braxton Barrios or Cedric Wilson, like no team in the NFL throws the ball to the tight end less than Miami. They've had no tight-end relevance.

But Braxton Berrios, you know, he's been on the field a little bit. Senator Wilson's had a few big plays. Would you dance with either of those? Or is that DFS country? I think that's more DFS country. Without buy weeks this week, there are better options out there. Jets, Giants, 36 and a half point over under. The game is in New York, of course. But who's home? But the Giants are home and the Jets are favored. So. You know, the Giants defense has been really good in the last couple of weeks. I think I'd take the under on a 36 and a half point game here. Oh, gross. I mean, I'm going to go out. I'm going to say 17. 12. 14. Okay. Who? Jets. Okay. Making a little. Making a note. But let's not make this game very complicated. Both of the, I mean, the Giants offensive line, it's been problematic.

No contact clear for Daniel Jones. It could be Tyrod again. You know, Sequin? Yeah, Seguan's a great play. Waller? Yeah, the matchup is good. The Jets have not been good against tight ends. Was Waller? He was big last week. Yeah, he's been, he's actually been very good the last couple weeks, but I thought I saw something about his practice report. Questionable with the hamstring. Yeah, okay. So if it's been all year. If it's the same thing, then, yeah, I'm still going to play Darren Waller. You know, it's a good match. I've been so impressed every week with the limited amount of Jalen Hyatt we've seen, but it doesn't mean you play him. And then Wondale showed that the floor exists. I mean, yeah, that was really bizarre. We all had him in DFS. He was eight for eight the week before, or I'm sorry, eight targets, eight receptions for 62 yards the week before. And then last week, two targets, one catch. Yeah, I mean, it looks like right now Tyrod Taylor's going to.

still be the quarterback. It's a little early in the week to know for sure, but Daniel Jones still not cleared for contact as of today. So right now, it's this matchup, like you said, this is pretty straightforward. You got Saquan and Waller as good starts, and I'm checking out on the rest, including Wondale, in a matchup against the Jets who give up nothing to wide receivers. Yeah, that's fair. And then on the other side, it's Breeze Hall is in, obviously. And the question is, you could start Garrett Wilson depending on who all your options are. I think Garrett Wilson's a lock, a lineup lock every week. I would never bench Garrett Wilson with the target totals. I mean, he's on pace for 156 targets this year. And that's just, I mean, give me some names though. Maybe I'm lying. I want to give you my names because he's actually a question in one of my leagues here. So asking for a friend, yes, sir. Would you start Garrett Wilson or Michael Pittman?

Garrett Wilson. Okay. Garrett Wilson or DJ Moore? Garrett Wilson. Garrett Wilson or Jordan Addison? Addison. Garrett Wilson or Puka? I got to go all the way up there. No, Pucca. And I don't blame anybody for the Addison one. The Addison one is a, you're still got to gamble on the touchdown side. Like Addison is outperforming the touchdown metrics. He's breaking like rookie records for touchdowns. I don't think you score in 15, 16, 17 times this year. when he hasn't gotten into the end zone, he doesn't have the targets that Garrett Wilson has. But maybe he will. He had 10 last week. Okay. That was his first, probably the highest target game of the year, right? He had nine in the game, Jefferson went down. Okay. Yeah. It was weird. That's fine. That's fine. If you want to go that direction, the touchdown odds are much more in his favor. Last three weeks for Wilson, 14, 7, and 12 on targets. But the performances aren't near Addison. So.

Yeah, maybe I stay in the flames of cousins there. I'll flip that one. So Puka and Addison, I would play. I'm guessing both those guys are in your lineup over Wilson. They are. Yeah. Is Pittman in your lineup over Wilson? Right now, Pittman, right now I had Pittman and DJ Moore in ahead. DJ Moore's quarterback situation isn't great, but the matchup is wonderful against Chargers. Pittman is the big question to me of whether I go Pittman or Garrett Wilson. Philadelphia, or I'm sorry, Jacksonville and Pittsburgh. Jacksonville's five and two. Here we are. They're having a season. Pittsburgh's four and two. What? You said it on the show a couple of weeks. You're like, you did it again, Tomlin. And they were the almost subset last week. They took care of it. Drafking Sportsbook line Jacksonville minus two and a half. Overrunners 42. It's in Pittsburgh. The line is too close for me to, you know, just say Pittsburgh is going to win it. But I think Pittsburgh is going to win this game. I don't understand how the Steelers can be.

so abysmal against the wide receiver position and keep winning ball games. I mean, they give up 36 and a half fantasy points to wide receivers. It's been unbelievable. Like they can't stop them. So that puts like Kirk Ridley should both be played this week. But yet, you know, this is a low over under. And I don't know how they do that magic, but they just win ball games. George Pickens is on pace for 1,400 receiving yards this year. He looks physically. impossible to stop in one-on-one situations. And he'd do himself a favor not to get taunting penalties after every nice play he does. It was really, really nice to see him with eight targets this last week. There was a lot of fear in me for what's going to happen when Deontze Johnson comes back into the lineup. Deontze Johnson was back, played 66% of the snaps, had six targets. So it does look like, you know, the number one target is Pickens has.

retained that, at least as of now. Najee Harris and Jalen Warren. Both scored, I believe, last week. Did Warren? I'm pretty sure Warren scored. I saw the Warren play. I'll double check. Unless I am. Yeah, both. Both did. Yeah, both scored. It was only eight opportunities, though, for Jalen Warren. Which is the equal, it's equal in value to 17 opportunities for Najee Harris. Just saying it was a. I think it was like a mostly positive game script there for the Steelers. And that was the lowest opportunities that Warren has seen all year. What's your confidence level in Harris? Still. Jaguar's defense has been good against runners. It's still not high. Yeah, Jacksonville shuts down the run. Jacksonville is susceptible to running backs in the passing game.

Which is the Warren. Exactly. So I'm very not confident in Najee Harris in this matchup. If he's more of the ground and pound guy against a very difficult line to ground and pound against, what are you talking? 3.2 carry. How many opportunities is he going to need? And I think part of why you saw, you know, you saw, oh, it was a real positive game script last week and that was Jalen Warren's fewest touches is because the four minute drill type running back, the keep the lead. slow the game down. That's Najee. So if you think that the Jacksonville Jaguars can keep up, can be in the lead, then Jalen Warren projects to be just as good an option as Najee this week, which to me is both poor options. Deontay Johnson was five for 79 last week. Back into Top 24. Yeah, we're back. Pittman or Deontay? Oh, Pittman. I'm going to go Pittman. Okay. It's not by a huge vote of confidence. I'll take Deiante.

Let's take the targets. Yeah, I will. But on the other side, just throwing it out there. Jacksonville, third highest in targeting the tight-in position this year. Evan Ingram, seven plus targets and six straight games. Good old Schmevin. Nothing like consistent Evan Ingram. Guys, I've been saying it forever. Yeah. If there's anything he is, it's consistent. Oh, man. It reminds me of like, you know how. You know, like kids, they sow their wild oats and then they, you know, have to like settle down. Yeah, eventually you grow up. I feel like Evan Ingram like had that period of his life, like his wild teenage years. Yeah, because he got, he got the bag. And now he's like, I've got my steady job and I work a nine to five and I come home to the wife and kids and watch TV. I'm going to really put myself into this now. I mean, it's funny. He gets his shoe shined. Ooh. Yeah. He's businessmen. Businessmen. Yeah, well, we said they're businessmen. Uh, I would do one quick like, Kirk absolutely.

Calvin Ridley. The matchup is there. I'm not ready to give up on Ridley. I'm there with you guys. And just a note, because he didn't practice again. But if your team, like as you're looking towards the future, I think that Zay Jones is probably on a waiver wire. And if I had a spot, I would put Zay Jones on it. The six and one Philadelphia Eagles take on the Washington commanders sitting at three and four. The Draft King Sportsbook line is Philadelphia minus six and a half. The overrunners 43 and a half. Philadelphia beat them in overtime. Divisional game, week four, 34, 31. It was a good one. And it was a good game for Sam Hal on that one. Now they're at home, which, I mean, look, the way Washington, Washington has been turning everything on its head all year long.

from Brian Robinson starting the year on fire to Dotson's disappearance, to Logan Thomas being suddenly relevant instead of Dotson to Sam Hal having good games when he should have bad games and bad games when he should have good games. I don't want to play Washington commanders this week. No, I don't blame you. The trade with the Titans to get an all-star safety is, you know, that's going to help this defense. That's going to hurt Sam Hal from what we saw in week four. So the defensive line has looked great all year for the Eagles. I'm not with the dolphins and with the Eagles, I'm not judging their points given up in the secondary quite the same this week as what we've seen prior. Because I do think getting pieces back. Getting pieces back will change the equation. So I mean, Brian Robinson's a floor play.