Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - AFC South Breakdown, News, Mailbag

What Mike said is right, he's just incredibly athletic, and he's a smart guy who I don't think is going to come in and throw 20 interceptions, is my point. I think he throws nine or ten. And you know what's interesting is the now granted that just because you're drafted high doesn't mean you're a great player, but the draft stock that they have around them on that offense, you have Kendall Wright, first round pick, Justin Hunter, second round pick, Doriel Green Brackham, Beckham, second round pick. I mean, the...

And Harry Douglas is there now. Right. And he, who was very serviceable. And Delaney Walker. When Julio went down, Harry Douglas had a monster year, over a thousand yards. So you're talking about an offense that really should put it together, and the offensive line is getting rebuilt. I mean, it makes sense. It's weird that they were so bad. That's what I'd be telling myself if I was a Tennessee fan, all of that stuff. That would be the Rose.

Rose-colored side of things. I mean, I'm not saying it won't happen. I'm not saying it will. I'm just saying that's a spin I'd be taken as a Tennessee fan. I just don't believe in the scheme of Wisenhunt to fit what Marriota. I mean, he's always had a pocket, immobile quarterback that, you know. Rivers can kind of move. Well, yeah, I mean, Rivers can move. But he doesn't. But he doesn't. When he was younger.

I don't think so. I'm curious how many passing, I mean, rushing yards, Phil Burb has ever have. While you look that up, the only other thing we'll say on Tennessee, because I'm sure we don't want to see. RBs, yeah. Yeah, is on the RBs. Sean Green has left, and Sean Green got 100 carries. I don't think Sean Green left. I think he was kicked out. Yeah, Sean Green was. He was forcibly removed from. Sorry, Sean. And so.

You know, there are some extra carries to go around. And so whether that, we don't know how that's going to split up between Cobb and Sanky. Was I way off? I think Philip Rivers might be the most immobile quarterback. One of the most immobile quarterbacks in the history. I just have these, the memories. He has a career 1.8 rushing average. So he has three career touchdowns on the ground. Just remembering him running up to people like jawing at him because he's.

He's such a trash talker. So I just in my head have this memory of him being able to run it. It's incorrect. He actually learned his rushing game from Kurt Warner. Yeah. Who learned it from Big Ben. So good luck, Marriota in that scheme. Big Ben is great. All right. Let's move on to the mailbag. We got some time to answer listener questions and we want to answer a bunch of these today. Mailbag. You got a question. Go to the site. The fantasy footballers.com. Submit a question button. You can also call us. Submit a question. Yeah.

It sounded like you were telling them, hey, submit a question button. That's their name. Benjamin? You can call us 302464 TFFB. Leave us a voicemail question. I'm excited. We got a bunch of questions, good ones this week. Let's go ahead and answer a few of them right now. Maybe. If I can get this button right. Hey, guys. Great show. Awesome. You're my new book two podcast. Question. For those of us...

who are late film picks or just maybe want to pick a quarterback a little later, but not necessarily. Where do you see the value of a guy like Breeze or a Payton? It's late third, this is early fourth? For those of us who know we're not going to get Aaron Rogers, at what point do you start to say, okay, I'm a little down on Breeze this year, but, you know, is he a value at first pick of the fourth, 10th pick of the third? At what point does that happen? And if I can sneak a second question in here, how...

I'm sorry, I can't remember which one of you it is. How are you so low on Jimmy Graham? Mike, right. Lord, when you said you'd take him in the sixth, just Kelsey and the fifth. I'm questioning everything. I love the podcast. His whole life. This guy, what is you, 27 years old? He was an elite producer. I'm with you, buddy. With a two-time Super Bowl team, I can't understand how you're so low on Jimmy. Mike.

Yeah, so we'll let you... I've got to find my notes now. You're being called out. Well, we'll talk about the first question. The two examples you gave for Breeze and Peyton, you know, Breeze's ADP right now is the fifth round. Peyton's ADP right now is the fourth round. So as far as going after those guys, that's not where I'd take Breeze. Definitely not the first pick of the fourth round. No, no, I'm...

quite low on Drew Breeze personally. And what he described is what I'm probably lowest on, which is, okay, I don't want to take one of those top guys, but I don't really want to wait late. I want to take one of those middle guys that's a value, and those guys are...

you know, just people that I don't like. But here's the one guy that I would give you. If you want to target a guy in the middle rounds where you're going to get better value than what you're drafting, Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan is going at the very end of the sixth round right now, almost the seventh round. And I've got him slated right now as my number three. I believe, Mike, you've got him as your number three quarterback as well, Matt Ryan? Correct. So getting him in the seventh, that would be my value. Yeah, or Breeze in the sixth round. You know, you talked about him in the fourth. If he drops to the sixth, that's fine. Jump on it.

Mike, we're leaving you on this foolish island of yours. Did you actually say that? Yes, I did. You said the sixth round. He said he would take Kelsey in the fifth over Graham in the six. And when you said it, I was this caller because I went, hmm? Okay. So here's the deal on Jimmy Graham. Jimmy Graham is talented, yes. But he is the product.

of volume. He is not talented. He's not Rob Gronkowski making stuff out of nothing happen. He has pretty darn close. That's exactly how I describe him. He's a former NBA player that leaps out of the building. He wasn't in the NBA. That's fallacy. College basketball. That's what Jimmy Graham has averaged with Drew Reeves 137 targets. Russell Wilson has never had a top target on his team over 100.

You're talking about a team of the Saints that passed 62% of the time. Three teams passed more. Seattle passed 46% of the time. Zero teams passed less than the Seahawks. It's volume. I'm not disagreeing with you. I just don't think we have to hyperboize Jimmy Graham as an athlete and a player. Just make the argument that he's not going to get a lot of volume.

He's a really great player that's not going to get as much volume in Seattle. I don't know why he's not very good now. No, no, no, no. I didn't say he wasn't very good. I said he's not as good as Rob Grankowski, where he could take the low volume that he's going to get in Seattle and still be a dominant force. Well, and I think that the point of clarification on what you said for the caller, it wasn't that you wouldn't take Graham in the 6th. That wasn't, like, of course you would take Graham in the 6th. It was...

because you like Kelsey so much, you think the value of Kelsey getting him in the fifth is more valuable because you actually have him going nuts so. And I can totally see Kelsey going nutso this year. All right, let's go ahead and grab another voicemail question. These guys, all right, there we go. Hey, guys. Love your working duo. Thanks. What happened? That's the easiest question we've ever had. It's a compliment. Here you go. Hey, guys. Love me working duo.

short-time listener, but I really love the show. I just had a question about a half-point PPR, trying to target out a couple players and know it's not a good idea, but out of these players, which would you guys suggest, in the second round with, I'm sorry, I can't think I'm top of my head, Jeremy Hill, third round, Travis Kelsey, fourth round, Latvius Murray, or eighth round, Ben Robertsberger. Which of these would you guys best value? Thanks for the time. Have good on. Bye.

Where's Latavius? He didn't give us a round for him. I think he did. I think he said Hill in the second, Kelsey and the third, Murray in the fourth was how he said that. I'm pretty sure that's what he was saying. He was saying taking Hill in the second, Kelsey in the third, Murray in the fourth. Okay. And so in a half point PPR, what say you guys? In a half point PPR, it's not a tremendous value because that's where his ADP is, but I'm taking Jeremy Hill.

Well, Big Ben's off the board. So you're saying it was Kelsey and the 3rd versus... I'd take Hill in the 2nd over Kelsey in the 3rd. Yeah, Kelsey in the 3rd is not...

That's too rich even for me. Here's the truth. I think that the more PPR-ish it gets, the better Kelsey is going to get. He gets a lot of volume. Obviously, the chiefs are not a deep field type of team. But in the third, it's not that great. And I don't really love any of those values. I would go Jeremy Hill in the second. All right, this question comes in from Blake.

from Tulsa, Oklahoma. He says, Dear Jamie, Circe, and Tyrion. Yes, ring that shame now. Shame. First off, oh, you have that. You have a shame, though? Shame on you being late with the gags. I tried to very slowly read the intro for you, too. I appreciate it. First off, I just began subscribing to you guys. I love your show. In my one point PPR, that's redundant, right? One point per reception.

Uh, yeah. In his PPR Keeper League, he's keeping C.J. Anderson in the 13th round, Jonathan Stewart in the 15th round, and Alan Robinson in the 15th round. Good for you. Alan Robinson. He was planning on going wide receiver, wide receiver in his first two rounds. Antonio Brown and Odell Beckham Jr. will be gone, and so he's leaning towards Julio Jones and Calvin Johnson because he's a little gun shy on Demarius Thomas this year. Is he crazy to pass on Demarius Thomas and Des for that combo?

Also, am I crazy for believing in Alan Robinson as a steady flex play? No, you're not crazy. No, we just talked about that. He's going to be a wide receiver too. You're not crazy for either of those. My number one and number two wide receivers are Calvin Johnson and Julio Jones. Yeah, the difference between D.T. Des Calvin Johnson and Julio Jones.

No one. There is not a single pundit out there who could possibly say it would be, oh, it's wrong to order them in this order. They need to be in that order. This guy's clearly ahead of that guy. Like, I've got an order to them, but they're all the same. I mean, it's a pickum game there. So no, that's not crazy. However, I could not even think about what his question was because I was concerned with your one point PPR thing. And it dawns on me that you're right, but then it dawns on me. We're always saying half point PPR. So really, it's a half point PR.

That sounds terrible. Yeah, it's a half-point PR. And that sounds so stupid. Oh, yeah. You're right. Yeah, you're right. So I guess we really do say PPR just as a league classification versus really what it means. Right. So I think one point PPR is good. No, no, now we're switching. Half-PR. It sounds so stupid, though. No, no, we're not doing that. I am. Let's answer the question. All right, sorry. It can destroy people's mind. Absolutely not crazy at all. Julio Jones.

The exposition in the K-Shai offense. He's going to feast. And Calvin Johnson, man. He's still got elite tires left. Ride it out. Why not? Garrett wants to know who has more upside. David or Duke Johnson? Oh, come on. David. Clearly. David Johnson. If you had to make a case for Duke Johnson over David Johnson, what would it be? It would be not made. Well, the reason that I would just make is...

I know. You got to exercise the brain. All right. Here's how I would make the case for Duke Johnson over David Johnson. I would say that they've got a better proven O line that can run well, and so an injury could put him ahead. That's the best I got. Oh, I would say that he was brought in, and they're saying he's a third down back. They're talking about him like, Gio Bernard.

But the Cleveland coaching staff is a little crazy with who they play and how they decide those things. So maybe they just, hey, Duke Johnson, you're going to play this week. And then he does well and just runs away with the job. I think it's just as simple as there's two guys in Arizona and three guys on the Browns. So you guys both like David over Duke? Yes. I'm with you. Nick from Michigan wants to know any suggestions on how to develop tiers within his rankings. Yeah, that's a good question. Say you.

What's the way to develop tiers for your rankings? I do two things for my tiers, and they're super important, not the things I do, but tears in general. Obviously, when you make your list of guys, go through and realize that there is a difference. A guy might be 12th and the next guy might be 13th. But if there's a gap there in talent, and that's the end of a good list, then put a big black line through that if it's on paper or whatever. The other thing that I do is I kind of take all those different tiers.