I mean, this will be incredible. If they come out and have a great offensive performance, we've got the key to beating the Patriots. Bench all the stars. Do you think that in the Patriots meeting this morning, they're like looking for that option to stop and it's like, yeah, it's Adrian Peterson. Probably. I think they're running around, just sprinting from room to room, papers flying everywhere, trying to figure out what, what do we stop? They have nothing. They really don't have anything. Do you not to Foreman?
Week 12 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, #SomePoints - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/23
Week 12 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, #SomePoints - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/23
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139 passagesWe don't have a report, Brooksie, on A.J. Brown's status, though, right? I thought the x-rays were negative. But they were doing more testing. Yeah, we still need an update. Okay. All right, all right. Let's move on to running backs. Are you willing to drop Zach Moss and Alex Collins? No, they're running backs. Not Alex Collins. Moss, I'm definitely willing to drop. Yeah, Zach Moss, I think, could be a waiver wire landmine for, like.
Because if your roster's... 29% of snaps. If your league sees Zach Moss out there, someone will pick him up. And you know that they are... Now, that team is clogging a spot on their bench with Zach Moss, who is completely unplayable. Matt Berita has... Not that Matt Berita's a fantasy superstar right now, but he's been worked in far to the point that this two running back field, which was completely void...
of real strong fantasy value on a week-to-week basis. That has been destroyed by Matt Brita. So I'm out completely on all Bill's running backs for the foreseeable future. This has been a problem for them for years. They cannot find production at the running back position, and it's breaking their offense down. Running back options, check your waiver wire just in case Jeff Wilson, Tony Pollard, Ramandre Stevenson are out there.
They're highly rostered, but I would say that, you know. Ramandre is available in a decent amount of leagues. Probably about half. Yeah, I mean, and he would be just such an important pickup. He's too good. And the Patriots are really starting to click. So, I mean, he would be the number one guy for sure for me. Yeah, last week I had a league where I played both guys, Harris and Ramandre. And this week I will not be doing that. I'll just be playing Harris. But I'm sad because I know.
what's going to happen. I know that there's going to be Ramandre drives. I know that he may end up with the goal line, carry here or there, and it's going to break my Damien Harris heart. It's going to hurt. But outside of those top options, talk to me about this very depleted running back. There's a couple out there. Yeah. Let's talk about the Jets. We talked about it earlier. That's where you got to start. That's got to be the best kind of situation to try to.
to look through here with Ty Johnson and then Tevin Coleman. Yeah, that's my number one guy. Which one? Personally, Ty Johnson. Okay. Now, I'm not, I don't have the confidence that he would even be the first man up. It could very easily be Tevin Coleman. But I do have the confidence that he is the more valuable runner, that he's got far more juice. We've seen several good games from him the previous three weeks.
with Michael Carter doing well. He was a top 36 running back all three weeks. So Ty Johnson is my number one running back pickup who's available in the vast majority of leagues. Yeah, I should have thrown Devante Freeman into the likely rostered category as well. But he has been really good. He's the top 24 running back in four or five, the last five games. He does seem like the best runner that they have right now. So just I want to throw his name out there. Yeah, I think that the backfield has clarified that he is the 1A.
At least. But, yeah, Ty Johnson, I agree with you on that one, though. I would take him over Tevin Coleman. It feels very much similar to the Tennessee Titans situation we had just a couple weeks ago of, is it Adrian Peterson or is it Jeremy McNichols? Because Tevin Coleman is pretty washed at this point of his career. He's the Adrian Peterson. Yes. Yeah. And Ty Johnson is explosive.
Will the team just keep putting Kevin Coleman out on the field? And that's my fear. I agree with you guys. If I'm prioritizing this backfield, Ty Johnson, who's, that's what I'm going after? I'm not doing like a full fab dump or anything like that. Would you burn a number one priority if you really needed a running back two for Ty? If I need a starter, Ty Johnson is, I think, a good start. Miami is a fine enough matchup to where.
I don't expect Ty Johnson to come in and be the dude. But he was succeeding just being the number two with Michael Carter. He's at the very least the number two now. This last week he was uninvolved. But previous to that, you know, three out of four games, he had double-digit carries. That was with Michael Carter. So I think Ty Johnson's going to have enough fantasy points to be unnecessary. You know, if you need a start, you can get 10 points from him.
He was on 102 target pace with the preceding four games in terms of the passing game work with Mike White. Yes. And then all of a sudden, one target last week. But look, get a win. I mean, if you've got to go out there and use a waiver spot and you think Ty Johnson can help your team this week because you don't have anybody at running back?
you're going to get some points out of that. And some points is what you're looking for here. That's the highest standard we have for this week's waiver wire at running back is some points. There is one situation where you could, I think it's possible where you get a good amount. A good amount. A good amount. But it's going to feel so gross. Right. Another player. Another team. Another situation. Okay. Houston? Yeah.
I mean, you don't get grosser than Rex Burkhead. Sexy Rexy is Beck, but the dude had 18 carries. He's playing the Mark Ingram role. Yeah. And he's having the Mark Ingram success. And they're, right, which is none. Which is 40 yards on 18 carries. But the New York Jets are the matchup. Wait, so we got another, we got the Texans and Jets. We got another Tet situation. Oh, no. Oh.
Taye Tess. TETS. TETS. TETS. What? Jason didn't get a lot of sleep. No, I did. I did not. Should jump in that chamber I was talking about earlier. It's so hyperbolic. Yeah, but I mean, Rex Burke had with the opportunity, or David Johnson. I mean, you can really, I think, I would take both of those guys over Tevin Coleman. You can feel pain in any way, shape, or form with Houston.
Yeah, I mean, you want to, one of the things you're looking for here is at a bare minimum, you want some opportunities. You want some points. You want to pray and hope for a touchdown. I think you get that with the tie with David Johnson and Rex Burkhead. You get a chance. It's not pretty outside of that. We all expect Cordero Patterson back, which kind of, you know, if he's back, I'm not looking to Quadri Olson. Agreed, but what if he's not? Then I'm looking to Cordy Olson. Okay. I wasn't sure if he was just completely hands-off.
Much sadness in depression. Okay. And then my deep league running back, I want to mention, it's not great, but DJ Dallas with Carson's out for the year, Rashad Penny got banged up. Do we have an update on him at all? Because it was hamstring, yeah, no update. Because if Rashad Penny is out and it is just Alex Collins and DJ Dallas, then.
Dallas will see a handful of opportunities. And Travis Homer. Yeah, I was going to say, that means it'll end up being a Homer game. Possible. It's deep leagues. Homer had three catches the week before, did nothing last week. All right, we don't need to talk about running backs anymore. Stay focused there and don't blow your waiver priority on any other speculative ads that are out there. What about Tony, Tony James Brooks Jones? He didn't really do much. Right, but.
Camara looks like he's trending out. Mark Ingram was limited on Monday's estimated report. You can sign him if you want. Yeah. Maybe I will. If Mark Ingram was out, I mean, obviously he becomes very interesting. He's a stash and we've got plenty of stashes. You know, you're Alexander Madison and mustachees. Sonny Michelle and those guys. That's what all he is to me. His name is Tony Jones, right? Tony Jones, Jr. Yes. Okay. It's been so long. It's been so long since I knew his real name. Well.
You're saying what he goes by. Yeah, which apparently is on the website, Tony, Tony Brooks, James Jones, Jr. Right. Did you put that in there? Full name. You're done right. I did. Why is the, why is the Brooks part in there? Oh, that's his name. I mean, I don't. No, that's in there because there was a, remember in the very beginning of the year, there was also a Tony Brooks Jr.? Oh, was that what? And you were. And I was confusing Tony Jones Jr. and Tony Brooks Jr. from Atlanta. All right. I mean, there's a clear.
Path of deduction for these nickname Tony Tony Brooks James Jones Jr. is a decent stash. All right. At tight end, Logan Thomas. Yep. I'd be looking at the Austin Hooper David and Joku world for upside just because Baltimore struggled against tight ends and you have nobody to catch the ball. Right now, Anthony Schwartz and Donovan People's Jones and Jarvis Landry's knee and No More Beckham and no Kareem Hunt.
You inevitably want the up, you want upside at the tight-in, and I feel like there is some there for Hooper. Yeah, I would, it's ironic. I think if you're just looking matchup based, I almost wonder if Injoku is better. I believe that Baltimore is the only team in the league that has actually given up more touchdowns from outside the red zone than inside the red zone in the passing game. They get beat on deep shots and big plays.
all the stinking time. That is their Achilles heel of this defense. So I'm looking in that matchup of guys who can make a big play, stretch the field, get a bomb, you know, like People's Jones or Schwartz. But at tight end, you know, I doubt Austin Hooper gets a 40-yard bomb. Yeah, Hooper was number seven two weeks ago, got a touchdown, but minimal yards, like you said. If you're looking for hashtag some points, Tyler Conklin is always providing some points.
Not a lot. Kong, Kong, baby. And then, but Logan Thomas has a lot of upside coming back. Yes. You know, you talked about Curtis Samuel. If Thomas is back, I'd flex Thomas over Samuel on a roster because I don't know what Curtis Samuel has right now. And I would throw in Cole Komet's name. I know last week he was unused. Two targets, one reception. But the previous three weeks.
Six targets, six targets, eight targets, had six for 87 right before the buy. This is against Detroit, a great matchup without Alan Robinson. He was on the field for 90% of snaps. I think Cole Komet would be. He's trending up. Some points. Chicago on defense, let's turn to defensive wave wire pickup. Chicago plays Detroit. They're only 11% rostered. This is a week that you can stream them. But what if, what if Jared Gough is back?
Great. Yeah, that might be better. I don't know. I mean, they're widely available. That is a smash grab and play. And the Cowboys who are scoring tons of fantasy points play the now muddled Raiders offense that can't really put up a lot. And I don't think Brian Edwards had a target last week. You know, Ruggs isn't there anymore. They tried to give an end around to Deshaun Jackson. And I swear he was like he ran out of gasoline.
Very quickly. Yeah, and just fell over. They are struggling right now. This is kind of a pride game, too, with at home, Dallas defense. There's a lot to like about them to start them this week. And the Eagles have been on fire. Their defense has been scoring fantasy points, and they play the Giants and Jets. You're getting a two weaker if you pick up the Eagles. Yeah, I mean, that might be something where if you're looking and the Bears and the Eagles are both out there.
If you don't already have another defense on your roster that's good, the following week, I would probably take the Eagles over the Bears. I would take the Cowboys over the Eagles, though, because they do play New Orleans who struggled on offense as well. So you would go Cowboys, Eagles, Bears. Oh, my. Oh, my. And it's Vegas, Saints, and then Washington for Dallas. But I think that's the end of the list that I want to talk about. Yeah. And then. Stashing defenses, the Vikings. If you're looking for week 13, because this is the point of the season when, you know,
We get asked the question, is it okay if I have two defenses on my team? Yeah, this is the time of year that I'm starting to look forward because the waiver wire, it's getting slimmer and you need to be proactive and not having to, not in the bidding war when it's the actual week to play them. So next week, the Minnesota Vikings get the Detroit Lions matchup and the Indianapolis Colts who play Tampa Bay this week. So.
They're available in about 60% of leagues. That could be more when you look at your waiver wire tomorrow and the Colts get to take on the Houston Texans next week. And what a joy that is. Yes, it is. The Rex Burkhead lead. Like when you do the, when you do the picture, you know, they have the like the face off videos where it's like one player representing a team. Is it soon to be Burk had representing that? Oh, certainly. That's probably Tyron. Yep.
