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Week 12 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, #SomePoints - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/23

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Week 12 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, #SomePoints - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/23

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So you're talking about 75% of the league that's in it. Yeah, that's fun. 75% of the league that is 5 or 6 or 4 and 6 or better. Pretty good going into week 12. Yeah, I mean, that's fun. That's a good time. All right, bye weeks. Welcome back, Broncos and Rams. See you later, Chiefs, Cardinals. Those two teams on by, a lot of players on those rosters that are relevant. And we still have four teams in week 13 and four teams in week 14.

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going on by. So you... I'm not happy about the week 14 by. You're going to need to do some dancing. The injuries are piling up. We talked about last week's kind of crazy as it is with injury. And then now you have a couple more weeks ahead with multiple teams on by. So lots going on. Let's start looking at the wide receiver position. People want to know, can I drop? Right. Permission to drop, please. Kenny Galladay.

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Yes. You don't need to, but you can. Corey Davis. Same. Seems like you don't need to, but you can. Emmanuel Sanders. Man. Mani Sanders is very, very difficult to gauge what is going on because he's been bad, but at the same time, the bill's overall passing attack has been struggling here for a couple weeks.

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So I don't think I would. Yeah, I'd hold on to him. I would not either. If he was on my waivers. Would you bench him and wait? Yeah, sure. I'm fine with that. But when you compare Emmanuel Sanders and Kenny Galladay, you're saying, I mean, I'll take Emmanuel. Yeah, I want the offense. I want the quarterback. I want the high potential of, you know, a game where you've got four passing touchdowns and Emmanuel Sanders gets one or two of them. We were looking at the.

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A dot numbers in the NFL yesterday through 10 weeks. Average depth of target is what that is. So which players are getting targeted further down the field? And it was all predicated on the ridiculous number that Rondale Moore has, which is like two yards, which is just like Debo is known for like a lot of underneath screen game. Debo has one of the shortest A dots. The lowest. 8.1 for Debo. So four times. And Rondale's at two. Like.

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You know, normal running backs average of depth of target ends up being like negative 0.5 yards or something like that due to screen passes. But it was crazy. Emmanuel Sanders has one of the highest. So he's still the highest value targets that you can get when he is targeted. Marvin Jones. I would kind of hold and wait and see right here with Marvin Jones. In fact, I may flex him.

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Right now I have him flexed over Emmanuel Sanders this week. Yeah, I was going to say Marvin Jones might be someone that people have moved on from, and he could be on your waivers. We're checking with Jamal Agnew out. Marvin Jones could get a bump up in necessity. Now, T. Higgins, this is a player I am fine dropping. T. Higgins has had really no games that have helped you this year. So I'm fine moving on to one of these options we're going to talk about. What do you guys think? It's...

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it's hard to keep putting on the cape for T. Higgins because he's not coming through. I mean, even his good games, you're like, that was pretty fine of T. Higgins. Yeah, he has not exploded. That being said, you know, the three games prior to this last dud, he was averaging 79 receiving yards. So it's not like he's killing you. He just, he has not been getting touchdowns. Jamar Chase says all your touchdowns belong to me.

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You know, this is just a matter of who's available. Would I drop him if one of these three probably wait rostered guys is available? Yes. If I could grab Elijah Moore, if I could grab Darnel Mooney, I would be willing to do that over T. Higgins. I don't know that most of your waiver wire guys are better than T. Higgins, though. Definitely like Sanders more because you're looking at.

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ancillary targets there, but you've got the Josh Nell and the offense. You don't have an offense that's going to give the ball 30 times like the Bengals did to Joe Mixon. Michael Gallup, Elijah Moore, Darnell Mooney, you just mentioned a couple names. Those are the likely rostered but top targets at wide receiver. Michael Gallup's going to have a huge opportunity. Regardless of C.D. Lamb's availability, Gallup is a play this week due to the absence of Amari Cooper. The target totals. He had 10 last week. They didn't turn into much.

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He's going to be relevant this week. Elijah Moore has been on fire. You need to go target him and hope that Zach Wilson continues. Like Jason said, the half full against Houston this week. You're going to have an opportunity. And the jets are doing better when they give the ball to Elijah Moore. Yeah, because he's got incredible juice. He's so shifty, powerful runner. So I really like him. He would be not only rostered, but has to be started at this point.

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Donnell Mooney, we just talked about him extensively. If he's there, go get him. Now, in terms of the main waiver wire pickups at wide receiver, I can't say that I am extremely enthusiastic about any of the players that are unrastered out there at wide receiver. That's why it's the waiver wire. Yeah, but, you know, the waiver wire on a lot of weeks, you have two or three targets that are like jumping out at you.

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that are rostered under 50%. I think that they're the product of injuries and biweeks and people are stashing players. There's just not as much availability. So if I'm looking out there, who's your number one target? Like I might have said Cedric Wilson going up against the Raiders on Thanksgiving without C.D. Lam and Amari Cooper. Now there's some question marks there. Yeah, it's it's not great on the waiver wire. I think my number one target of guys that are.

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you know, available in at least half the leagues would probably be Van Jefferson. I think he is a talented player. He's on a great offense. Don't watch last game. No, obviously. I mean, everybody has down games, but, you know, he knows the offense well. The absence of Robert Woods, someone needs to step up. And obviously they brought in Odell Beckham, but I still think that Van Jefferson on this team can get it going. And that's not like a.

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just a matchup play or a one week. I think he could have a decent rest of season. I'm not in love with them, but there's not a lot of names out there that I'm clamoring for at wide receiver. If I was looking at a one week rental start, I might do it. I might go Marquez Valdez can't link this week. Okay. I like the, you know, you're taking on the Rams. This game has the potential to be pretty interesting.

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And you know that the Ramsey effect, obviously he's not shadowing the way he was before. But if you're looking at a peripheral target where the focus of that defense, a smart defense is going to be Devante Adams, I think I would, when I look at these other options, like I would play MBS for the upside over James and Crowder with one of the lowest A-Dots in all of football. And you're hoping for a touchdown. Because if James and Crowder does not score, you're getting six for 38. Yeah, a lot of these players are.

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dependent on other variables, like MVS. If Alan Lazard is still not going to play. Exactly. Then yes. Then Marcois Valde Scanling is nice. Like without Lazard, we saw a 32% target share. It wasn't just the big, the big splash play. He was getting targeted early and very often. James and Crowder, I like him too and a PBR League. But if Zach Wilson is back, like,

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I like Crowder because of Joe Flacco. But if Zach Wilson is back, I think that kind of goes out the window too. Senator Wilson, if C.D. Lamb is in, then Wilson is out. So I think I'm with Jason that my top target, if he's there, would be Van Jefferson. And then... Maybe look at Kendrick Bourne. Kendrick Bourne, he's so...

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He keeps getting it done. Yes, he does. Because he doesn't, here's what you want. Play him more. You want a guy with a ton of targets. I'm talking to the Patriots to play him more. Yeah, I'm just. You want someone with a ton of targets, uh, and, uh, in a great office getting it done, does he? Well, I mean, he. Relates, for 42 last week. Relative to the other options on the team he does. And he's up against Tennessee this week.

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Would you rather, let me ask you this, would you rather take a shot on Leviska Chanel moving into a better role because Agnews gone? Yeah. I would. I mean, this is the level we're talking about. Yeah, we're not excited about it. How about Robbie Anderson with Cam Newton back? No, no, no, no. Touchdown two weeks ago? No. Touchdown this last week? Not interested. He also, he didn't score this last week. He was five for 30, no touchdown. Oh, that's right.

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Trequan Smith for the Saints is... He's out there every play. Yeah, he's at least interesting. He had eight targets. Now, the rumor mill is swirling that we could see a move on. The Saints move on from Trevor Simeon. They did just give a very hardy new contract to offensive weapon Taysam Hill, who has accounted for something like 200 yards of offense.

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He's going to get $22.5 million guaranteed. But Treyquan, eight targets. He has taken over as the Defecto number one. How do we not report on that? How did we not report on the Tastom Hill? Contract? I just did. I mean, because it's like, it's just. That's a massive, I mean, if we're, that's a big deal. Is it? Yeah. Like for his long term quarterback value? Yeah. It's a, it's a deal that could be worth $95 million. It's a deal that.

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fluctuates between what position he plays if he earns the job like this is at a minimum the team saying he's going to be in competition for this job potentially for years to come and and so i think for dynasty like it's it's certainly a little bit of a yes an extension of your own in his potential value i totally agree and his utilization too like he even if he's not the quarterback

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You don't pay a guy this much money guaranteed and not use him. They've been doing that for years. Yeah, this year he had a serious concussion. He had multiple games where he missed. And so I don't read too much into this year's utilization yet. Well, it's difficult to gauge where they are with Tateaum Hill because James beat him out. And then Trevor Simeon, I know he had the concussion, but Tastom Hill has been back and active. So.

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But they stuck with Trevor Simeon. I don't know if that was still just they're concerned about the concussion for Taysam Hill. So yes, there's definitely a dynasty watch for him. But Trey Kwan Smith, he is the number one guy. Adam Troutman, a lot of targets had been starting to go towards him, like six a week for the past month. Perhaps those go to Joanne Johnson now. But Trey Kwan Smith.

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could fill that void and see, you know, eight plus targets a week. Certainly. And I think because we've talked about all of these names that no one is really exciting, you're just going to have to decide which matchup you like and, you know, the situation of your roster, right? Are you looking for someone who could pop the rest of the season or are you looking for a matchup play? Because of all the murkiness.

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I feel like I should be picking up Curtis Samuel. I mean, these names are. Yes, we're back. We're back, baby. If he's actually back almost played last week, if he is a part. DeAndre Carter is a nobody who has had relevant games and, you know, is being used. Taylor Heineke is willing to throw the ball without any fear, even when he should have fear. So if he's healthy, I feel like there's a chance. Maybe you've got a better.

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player, then all these other names we're throwing out there. He's at least good. If I'm looking at one week, like I said, I'd throw NBS out there. If I'm looking for rest of season, I think that's when you say like, like, Treyquan, Van Jefferson and Kendrick Bourne are your highest considerations there in terms of like, at least you know they will be, you can put them in your lineup and hope every week. Sure. And then the deepest of deep leagues, we know you're out there. Nick Westbrook Aquinae for the Tennessee Titans is

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The last man standing, the matchup is not great against the New England Patriots, but A.J. Brown is hurt. Marcus Johnson has a hamstring injury. Julio Jones is out. There's no one left. I don't love playing him, but he'll be out there. He was seven for 107. Yes, he came through with a 100-yard game. It seems like we're talking the same thing we said about Marcus Johnson last week, but you're right. I didn't ring him up at first because of the matchup, but I kind of.

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I had the Marcus Johnson injury in my head. I did not have the AJ Brown injury in my head. And with both of those guys out, you know, it's probably worth mentioning their tight ends in a streaming category this week. Sure. Like they have to do something. You know how we always talk about the Patriots lock down whatever your number one option is. Good luck. Maybe this is the way to beat them. We have no number one option. The joke's on you, New England. Who are you going to shut down? Nobody? That's right.

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