Week 4 Waivers + Tough Drop Decisions - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/29

the second last week 17 for 41 and it touched down three targets three for 14 you know in conversations in the off season when they tried to box him into being a short yardage player their head coach came out and said he would rather see gordon compete to be in every downback think he's capable of doing it every snap of ollie gordon i've ever seen at the professional level i've been personally impressed i think he's a pretty talented player he was very productive in college

He should get the majority of the work, but Jalen Wright will be involved. Jalen Wright is a player that they value the speed, the big playability. Listed ahead of Gordon on the depth chart before last week. And the further complication to the fab spend decision.

is the fact that this is a team that is not going to score a lot of points the rest of the way. In no way, shape, and form is Ollie Gordon Devon H.N. And H.N. was struggling to put up much more than 10, 11 points on a weekly basis with all the snaps. This week, for example, they have the lowest implied point total at 13.5. So that's the lowest of the year. That has to be, right? You're going to, here's what's going to happen. The matchup is.

At Minnesota. Yeah, you're going to go to Minnesota, and you're going to spend a bunch of fab on Ollie Gordon, and then you might end up feeling really bad about it for a week, at least. So what is the framework here? Because in all my leagues, getting anybody at running back, having running back depth is the hardest possible thing that you can do. And so there's value here. It's just how much? I am, I'm concerned.

Ollie Gordon should be added in every single league. But it will be, once Jalen Wright is back, I think it will be far more of a committee on a low-scoring team. And the schedule the next two weeks is at Minnesota and then it's Cincinnati, which I know Warren had a good game against Cincinnati. I still believe that their defense is much improved. And then it's the by week. It was like, that's a hard.

thing to commit a ton of fab to a running back that I think is going to suck for two weeks and then you can't play him at three weeks yeah I do think Ollie Gordon is the right pickup Jalen Wright is not good I yeah I think he's like great I mean he is a he's a very good athlete and if you can find him a lane he can run where you can't catch him that part is good if you find him a lane I'm not sure he will find the lane

And I doubt you're making a lot of, you know, openings with a bad offensive line, no threat of a passing game. So I'm not fearful of Jalen Wright. I think Ollie Gordon, Andy's Wright, has basically shown that he's a quality NFL player. But it's going to be a month before you're confident enough to play him. So dropping a ton of fab is tough. If I haven't been destroyed by injuries at my running back position.

And it's just like, hey, I need, I want a quick fix. I'm, I prefer Braille. I completely, completely agree. If you're needing a start right now, the next two weeks. But if you're, if you're good, if you're solid. Getting a player for the rest of the year is worth more fab. Yes. Agreed. But I, I'm concerned that is he actually worth the fab in the end? I mean, let me, let me ask you this. If Jacori Kraski Merritt was out on the waiver, why, or what fab would he receive? Um.

I'm trying to pick some... More than Ollie Gordon. More than Ollie Gordon. Yes. See, I mean, I think that's a situation where he's been under 50% of snaps every week. Not hyperproductive. I mean, getting a starter week for the rest of the year is the equation here. Right, but is Ollie Gordon going to be 70% snaps? 60%. We don't know that. Where I lean, Bill, just in your hypothetical is they will like, Mariotta and that team looked great. Jane Daniels will be back. I just believe more in...

Yeah, they're signing Echlor, they have Ketron Allen. Yeah, Bill could be in big trouble. I mean, what's the fab spin if you have 100 fab still? For Ollie Gordon? Yeah. I mean, he will, I imagine he's going to go for 20 plus because it's a like the starters after the year. I think for sure. I think he could go. But I don't know that I would spend that. I think you could go up to 50. Yeah, you're going to have him go for a lot. I don't think I'm willing to do it. The nice thing about both of these guys. Maybe in the 30s.

Like instead of a veteran running back coming in that you know what they're about, like let's say Devon Singletary was the only back in town in New York, you kind of know what you're getting. With Ollie Gordon, there is tremendous upside potential on a bad team, but it's still a young player that we haven't seen given all of the work. So from an explosiveness standpoint, you could be surprised in a positive way as opposed to spinning up on the Singletary type of guy.

Now, Braylon Allen is more rostered. Like, Ollie's out there for every league that I'm in. He's basically on no teams. Ironically, as the A-chan manager in our league of record, I drafted Ollie Gordon and then cut him because that's what ends up happening when you have other opportunities to pick up players that, you know, excel. Braylon Allen, 21% rostered. He has scored, I think, two times this year, right? No, the first one was called back.

That's right. He's looked very good. He's 22 years old, had the youngest breakout age of any running back. But again, it could be very temporary. You've got Chicago in Chicago this week. And then Cleveland, Cleveland has been stepping up on the defensive side. Chicago last night. You can run on them, but it's in Chicago. And I don't know, we've been let down by Braille and Allen starts before. Yes, for sure we have. We're not going to have a definitive update on Brees until after your waivers run.

Most likely, depending on what time your waivers actually run. I think that from what I've seen, I think Bruce Hall is going to miss at least two weeks. In which case, Braylon Allen, I think, is a very good start. I've really liked what we've seen from the Jets so far. The offensive line has been a significant improvement from the year prior. Gino's been slinging. They've got the weapons. Sadiq looks like the real deal. So.

You know, it's a much better situation. Obviously, it's not long term. It's not rest of season. That being said, Brayland Allen has been kind of a flex with benefits. So it's not like, you know, when Brees comes back that Braylin Allen is completely, you know, 100% unusable. Like you said, he had a touchdown last week, and I had a touchdown that was called back on a penalty in week one. And then you have, obviously, the Saints backfield.

which I'm very curious to your guys' opinion. I think we're going to disagree here. This is regarding Alvin Camara. Camara and Kendra Miller. Yeah. Camara is 54% rostered. Kendrae Miller's 3% rostered. A couple of tough matchups coming up. Camara, yeah, the disagreement that I think we're going to have is just what we believe the team's philosophical approach is going to be to that position. And I think most of the work is going to go to Alvin Camer. I think that his...

I think there's a lot more to the equation for them than, and I think we've seen it even with A-chan being active because we've been embarrassed at their utilization of Camara with a healthy A-chan. Oh, that's still so confusing. I mean, to me, it's- Like, I was, we've done this the whole off-season, the whole A-chan junior thing, and you're like with A-chan's utilization, and I'm right there at the dolphins. I'm like, what did they do?

No, sorry. No, it's just weird. Like, I expect the majority of all the work to go to Alvin Camara in the absence of HN. Your work Kendrae Miller in, but I don't expect, like if I had to start one on a weekly basis, in half or full point, it'd be Camara every time. Yeah, so the way that I see, I would be surprised if all the work goes to Camara because they just spent a ton of money to bring a running back in, and they didn't give him all the work. They seem like they want a committee.

They were using whoever it was, Kendra Miller in week one when Camara wasn't there. You know, they, when Camara was there, they were using Hey, Chan as the backup. It seemed like an involving two backs. I think both backs will be involved. I agree with you that Alvin Camer is clearly the leader in volume in snaps. Kendra Miller will be the backup, but I think Alvin Camer is going to go for a lot more fab. And if, you know, I said this two weeks ago, I think if Kendra Miller gets 10 touches and Alvin Camer gets.

16 touches, I think Kendra probably scores more fantasy points just because Camara looks not the same. I mean, he looked, he looked better this past week. And I'll say in the fourth quarter, Alvin Camara had five carries to Kendra's two. And Camero ran 12 routes to Kendra's eight. So if it was on Camara's side, but Kendry Miller wasn't a non-factor.

I think they're both worth picking up this week. And to Jason's point, it's like if Camara went for 20 fab, and you can get Kendra for three. I'd prefer the Kendra side. You'd want to go to the Kendra side. Yeah. But it's going to be a prolonged absence, I think, for A chance, at least three weeks. I am certainly not saying spend the most on Kendra Miller and drop fab. I think he's just a value for he's going to not cost a lot. He shouldn't. Keaton Mitchell.

Emmett Johnson. Jalen Wright, you know, if you want to spend, it's a very similar situation there. Ollie Gordon's going to be the big ticket. Kendra Wright or Jalen Wright, yeah, mixing Kendra Miller and Jailen Wright together. It might not even matter. Those are a couple other names. Jalen Wright's probably you could get him on the cheap just in case the distribution is different. Yeah, you could. I don't want the backup.

Like the Saints look like a good offense. The Saints are a fast pace of play. Tyler Shuck looks legit. The Dolphins, having the backup in a timeshare, I don't know that I want the starter in the timeshare for the Dolphins. So I'm not doing anything for Jalen Wright. Keaton Mitchell, though, bears, you know, talking about he was, he was unfortunately for Hampton managers. They were, Keaton Mitchell was very involved.

eight carries, three targets. He's an explosive player. I'm not going. 38% of snaps. I'm not going hard after him, but I do think he is, should be rostered. Depth at running back that you might be able to get on the cheap. You prefer Keaton or Mike Washington? Keaton. Yeah, I would prefer Keaton. The other names to pick up are just, you know, kind of insurance backs. Make sure that Kalin Black is rostered.

You know, Kenny Gainwell, we thought maybe it would be a pickup, but it seems like Bucky Irving. I had read something from September 24th because I was doing some research on Bucky Irving for the injury. And I don't remember the source, but they talked about him being on a pitch count early in the season. And then we got him, even in a close game, we got him pulled out and he just sat for the last 15 plays of the game or whatever it was this past week. There was no.

Bucky everyone was just standing on the sideline, everyone assumed he was hurt. And they must be handling this in a strict manner when it comes to the pitch count. But he seems to be fine. Like I was trying to figure out was this a, you know, is this like an attitude thing? Like was there something that he did that got the team frustrated? You know, he didn't fumble. But it seemed like they literally hit a mark. You look at his games. Yeah, it could be a pass protection call. Yeah, it could have been. It's just weird to take maybe the best.

like talent that you have out of the game. But if you look at the opportunities in the three games, you know, it was eight attempts on the ground, then 17, then 15. He stops at 15 and they don't put him back in. But at least four targets in every game. It's going to be weird for that team and Gainwell and all of those guys as we deal with no Baker for a little bit of time. But is there anybody else? I mean, Austin Echler, are you adding him? I mean, I don't think so. Deep, deep leagues. Yeah, I don't think, like if Austin Echler comes back,

to a team which I could see very much happening. Should he be added? Yeah, will he be a fantasy relevant starter? Will he be able to play his way into a really important role? I would be surprised. The only other player I would mention I would whisper is Caleb Johnson. You know, more weeks in the system. You've got a couple more weeks before we probably find out what's going on with Josh Jacobs.

and man, they need to figure out a running game. They just have to make some changes. We might not get Jacobs back. I mean, the league is trying to get that video and that could be, this thing has been snip, snap, snips, snap all over the place. So I don't mind you mentioning him as much as I should mind you mentioning him. My number one wide receiver pick up this week is Chris Bell. His snaps went up. This is Miami wide receiver. His snaps went up to 71 percent, seven targets, four for 67.

Caleb Douglas has been out. You lose the weapon in the passing game that A Chan was, getting the targets every week. And this is the expectation for somebody like Chris Bell. Coming off an injury, missing all of training camp, wasn't seeing the snap counts that we needed for any type of viability, but saw them jump from 41% to 71%, seven targets, big-bodied guy, had multiple red zone looks in this game, had opportunities for touchdowns. To me...