Shocking Stats from 2020 + Buy or Sell, Gut Punches - Fantasy Football Podcast for 2/18

and it has the team's record on it from the last 10 years. And he just points it. And he doesn't say anything. And he says, don't let the door hit you on the way out. See you later. Every time Russell's like, I want to throw the ball more, he just holds up a picture of the Super Bowl interception in the end zone. But he's real positive about it. He cares a positive guy. He's smoking that gum. He's like, yeah. Well, let's check that out. Let me look at this step. I mean, 12 and 4.

12 and 4, and yet they let go to their offensive coordinator, and then there's these offseason rumblings. I don't know. It's weird. Speaking of rumblings, I know we're talking stats here, but we're in dynasty season. Rumorvilles are flying around. Did you guys see the reports that Chris Carson is not expected back? I did not see that. Seattle Seahawks, yes. Yeah. This is why, you know, I've, it's been really me whispering it into the dark, but you're talking nausea.

Oh, no, not just Naji, but like looking at the situation right now. Oh, my gosh. Naji Harris lands on the Seattle C Fox. Oh, man. That'd be marshal on Lynch 2.0. I will be streaking through my neighborhood to alert the police. Only a man with the first pick in his rookie draft will be doing that. But no, I've been saying, you know, like people are saying, well, who can you trade for right now that you have to give up nothing to, but there's huge.

potential upside. Do you guys have any faith that the Seahawks could move into next year? And it's their first round pick, former first round pick, Rashad Penny, as their main running back. Faith, no, hope, yes. I was a huge Rashad Penny believer. I mean, I absolutely loved Rashad Penny. I truly believe he was on already on them. He was breaking out. He was on the way to break out. And then he got injured in, you know, a very unfortunate injury for a running back in.

But if he's the main guy going into next year, I will get trapped. He can't be. He can't be. No, there's a zero percent chance the team is going to make him the number one guy going to the next year. If they let Chris Carson go, they'll sign a free agent, veteran, or they will draft somebody in the fifth, sixth round to compliment at a minimum. I mean, they've piecemeal together the running back cord due to injury for years. So going into the season, going into the season with like Carson and Penny,

is already like somehow a gamble due to injury. I just can't see a world where Rashad Penny is coming off of the catastrophic injury that he had. Well, he's not, I mean, he's now had a whole year. Sure. Yeah. I mean, look, we'll see what happens. There's a world where he's being drafted as their starter. Yeah. And that's going to be a, you know, close your eyes and make the draft pick. You know, just because it's worth a lot if their, if their philosophy is running the ball.

So maybe it just took a little time. Jason's Rashad Penny Dreams can come true. Oh, I couldn't handle it. All right. Red Zone Warriors is our fourth shocking stat here. In 2020, three players had double-digit touchdowns inside the red zone. So remember the specifics there, inside the red zone. Devante Adams had 14 inside the red zone. Adam Thielen 13. Travis Kelsey 10. That is the most total players doing that since 2015.

In fact, we had none of them last year. Yeah, 2015, you had Alan Robinson, Brandon Marshall, Eric Decker, Tyler Eifer, Jordan Reed. Oh, baby. The Target Monster himself, Rule 86 in effect. But last year there were none. And so the year before Eric Ebron and Devante Adams did it, Jarvis Landry and Jimmy Graham the year before that, it's been, you know, it's been a while since we've seen a lot of players do it.

Pick two players other than Adam's Thielen and Kelsey, so you can't, no repeats, but two players that could do it in 2021. We'll do a mini draft of two players that we think could do it, and then I'll start because I want the first pick. All right. The Thielen one, it still shocks because every time I forget how many touchdowns Thielen had last year. Yeah.

I will go with, my first one is going to be Mark Andrews. I will go with Mark Andrews, tied in for the Baltimore Ravens. Okay. That was a clear 101. Was he? Okay, so that's who is your number? On my list, he was my 101, yes. All right, so who's going next? The list has me on there, so I will go, and I am going to select Calvin Risley of the Atlanta Falcons. I think that he could absolutely do that.

That's good. I like that bit. I get that. I'm going to go with, I do think this, you know, when you're talking inside the 20. Nope, your pick is already in the dock. Brooks has selected Tyler Lockett for you, Jason. Oh, no, thank you. We're talking inside the 20 yard line in the red zone. So I do think that tight ends are.

Probably the most likely outcome here. I mean, we saw Eric Ebron do it. So I'll take George Kittle. I'll take a healthy season and have him come down with double digit touchdowns next year. And at wide receiver, look, there was magic happening towards the end of the year. And nobody has more one yard touchdowns than Mike Evans. So I will go Mike Evans for the inside of the red zone double digit touchdowns when either Godwin or Antonio Brown or.

both possibly move on from the team. All right, Mike, it's back to you. I have some, like Evans was on my list and Cooper Cup is on my list because that, I still think Cooper Cup is good. But I want to throw out a name here that, you know, it's projecting. And I think that this could happen. I think that this player could come down with 10 touchdowns inside the red zone. I'm going to take T.J. Hawkinson from the Detroit Lions as the primary go-to weapon. Jared Goff.

likes himself a tight end from time to time. And I think that Hawkinson could get it done. All right. I will try not to go back to the tight end well here. So I will take a wide receiver. And I will go with a free agent wide receiver. I will go with a wide receiver where I don't know where they're going to play, but I know how big they are. And his name is Kenny Galladay. Kenny Galladay, I believe it was 2018 that he was one of the few double-digit touchdown fellas.

Wherever Kenny Gallaudet goes, I need Kenny Gainwell to be drafted. So we just have... Oh, you got double Kenny G's? So we got Kenny and Kenny? Smooth routes? Oh, man. Yeah, okay. I was really hoping that maybe we had some smooth routes on the show today, but apparently we don't. Oh, Kenny G in the house? We didn't get to play that last year, and that was so disappointing. Soundboard is asleep at the wheel over there.

All right, so Mark Andrews, Calvin Ridley, George Kittle, Mike Evans, solid pick there. T.J. Hawkinson, Kenny G. All right, all right. We'll be sure to check back in on this direction. Yeah, right. All right. Let's go with our fifth shocking stat titled Under Pressure. Oh. Under Pressure. Ding, ding, ding. Yeah, when I hear under, when I see Under Pressure, somehow I still think of it. I still think of the Billy Joel song. What?

I know. It's not right. I'm not saying it's right. I just do. Sorry. I'm sorry. That's absurd. I listened to way too much Billy Joel as a kid. All right. Justin Herbert was the only quarterback who's passerating under pressure was higher than his total passerating. He had a 99 pass rating under pressure, 98. Impressive. Not under pressure. Now, is that because he was under pressure on like 85% of his dropbacks?

Uh, yeah, due to the pro football focus is 32nd ranked offensive line in front of us. Yes, due to the second best. Yeah, 32nd best. The, the nice thing is, is from what I understand, the, the chargers are going to save a lot of money by disintegrating all offensive line because they realize that he's better. He's better under pressure. Why have no line? Let it go. Most completions under pressure in the NFL.

He led the NFL with 15 passing touchdowns on third down. He still was credited. His receivers were credited with 10 drops on under pressure throws. Still had a 99.4 passer rating. He's good. Now, do you guys take this is just, this is kind of a fluky thing, one time thing? Or is this like you get Justin Herbert some protection up front and you're, you might see a 40 touchdown season from him.

I think he's certainly capable of that type of a season. I also know that fantasy points come in lots of different ways, and one of them is running away from people and running down the field and improvisation. And, you know, Russell Wilson has made a lot of fantasy players happy and evading defenders. And so I don't know what that equates to exactly for the fantasy future of Justin Herbert. I think it's very easy to take the quick reaction of...

no Austin Echler running the ball around or he had to run a lot touchdown percentage was up there he's got to regress but is that a bad is that a bad way to go I mean we wanted Baker to get an O line and it changed their whole team I what we saw I mean what we saw from Justin Herbert says to me that he will without a shred of doubt in my mind have a 40 touchdown season

Not necessarily this year, but as his career goes, his arm was unbelievable. It's up there with Josh Allen and Pat Mahomes. The ball he throws is just the, it is a thing of absolute. Biceps, triceps, beautiful. Forearm, fingers. Lats. So, but, but I will say, you know, if we're talking about what, what's his prognosis for next season, I think that they are going to have a better team.

I think they're going to have a better offensive line, but they're going to have a much, much better defense. They had so many great, you know, Darwin James is all world, and they'll have him back next season, presumably. And, you know, I don't think he's going to need to do as much. So I'm really having a hard time looking at Justin Herbert's 2021, because I think what we saw was fully real past every...

analytic test, passed every film test. I think he's completely the real deal. He will only get better. But statistically, fantasy football wise, he ran the ball much less in the second half of the season, which is, you know, you would expect that as he progresses as a quarterback, but that's not good for fantasy. So I do have a hard time figuring out where I think he's going to land next year. Let me make this difficult.

I will go out on a limb here, and I will say I will definitively, I would definitively rather have Justin Herbert as my fantasy quarterback than Jalen Hertz. Oh. Very interesting. Reaction? I, well, if Jalen Hertz is the known starter, if Carson Wins is traded, I would definitively rather have Jalen Hertz. And it's stupid, and I don't like it because

clearly Justin Herbert is the better quarterback, but for fantasy rushing his king at quarterback and the baseline, the consistency will end up being higher. The bigger blow-up games will be higher. I'll take the one that hurts. Oh, that we get that one. All right. Shocking stat number six, about to get that bag. You ready for this? From weeks one through five, courtesy I mean you had 34 fantasy points.

That is, that's not good. That's wide receiver 61. From week seven on. That's high for 34 points. Yeah, from week seven on, including his buy. He was the wide receiver 10 with as many wide receiver one weeks is Stefan Diggs and twice as many as Justin Jefferson. He was, he was outstanding. That hurt. You heard. You could tell that hurt me to say that out loud. This is a Kyle Borg special. Curtis Samuel is one of.

The Borghans guys. Yeah, I really don't like how much control he has over our show right now. Manufactured touches, second most third down touches among all wide receivers. There was no Christian McCaffrey. But Curtis Samuel came on in a big way. He saw the money bags, the new contract. Where's he going to go on free agency? Will he matter for fantasy? My prediction, my prediction for Curtis Samuel is to land in Washington. But what do you guys think about?

Curtis Samuel's future. Because is he going to get paid enough to where he's part of an offense, enough of an offense to be relevant? I would say that, no, I don't think he's going to get paid well enough to guarantee that he's a major part of an offense. My outlook for him is I'm really, really excited to see where he signs.

for Robbie Anderson and DJ Moore. You know, if this year taught us anything, it is that we want the two targets. We don't want three targets. We want two targets. Target number one, target number two, at all, across all positions, are there two guys who are throwing the ball to or are there three? And when he leaves and he leaves just Robbie Anderson and DJ Moore to split that pie up, it'll be delicious. Now, obviously, the location that you brought up,