Fantasy Football Podcast 2017 - The TRUTH About Fantasy QB's in 2016

And then luck and Ryan will be in similar. Whenever you have a guy whose career high is 32 touchdowns in eight full seasons. And then he comes out and throws 38. That's fair. You're going to have him go back down to maybe his previous career high, which would put him. But I just remember, I remember this all season long from Jason. You're like, well, he's going into Denver. I don't believe in him. It's not going to happen. Crushes Denver. Well, you have Seattle next week on the road. There's no way. Crushes it in Seattle. You've been crushing him all year long. You're like in the playoff games.

Well, Seattle's Road, they're battle tested. They're going to go in. They're going to smash the Falcons. They got dismantled by Matt Ryan. I'm going to put you on the start. It's January 18th. Are you sure this is the hill you want to die on for the entire next year? Do you want to be on the Matt Ryan sucks bandwagon? I think Matt Ryan is a good quarterback. I don't think he sucks. What I do think is that he is not a prolific touchdown thrower for his career. And I think he will regress to just to being a 30 touchdown guy, which is.

pretty good, but for fantasy football purposes, he is going to not perform to his ADP. That's like a, for me, it's a virtual guarantee that he is going to underperform his ADP next year. And so I'm, even though you just said his ADP would be much later because people would listen to you. Well, I'm getting the ball rolling now. I'm starting. Right. Contradictions. Beware. All right. Andrew Luck.

He was very good, 4,200 yards, 31 touchdowns, brought those interception totals back down to where you wanted to see them after he got that big contract and struggled last season. You know, he runs the ball, 64 attempts, 3141 yards and two rushing touchdowns. He was actually third in the league in consistency. He had a couple performances outside the top 21, but 10 of his 15 games were inside that top 10. He missed a game. And look, he was great. He took advantage of bad defenses. He had an offensive line that was a...

And we'll always forever and ever be atrocious. I don't agree with that. I don't agree with that. Though good things figured out. If you have a moderate improvement to that O line with what Andrew Luck can do, will do, Moncrief was injured all year long, you still had Hilton set career highs. I'm telling you, Andrew Luck, I'm on board. He'll be my quarterback in a ton of. Well, maybe not. If people listen to you, Jason, they might listen to me and he's going to go higher. There you go. Kurt Cousins, number five.

Oh, yeah. Number five was drafted. Oh, yeah. Now we're in my range, baby. You and Kirk. He and Kirk forever. You know what's amazing about that is he burned you down in the playoffs. I know. I mean, he burned you down and you're just loyal, just infinitely loyal to Kirk. He, yeah. I mean, we had one bad game. It came at the worst time. Came at the worst possible time, but that's fine. He wasn't the only one who had bad games. Here's something interesting.

329 passing yards against top defenses, 267 passing yards against bottom defenses. Obviously he was one of the leaders in the league in terms of passing yards in general, almost 5,000 yards. What is Kirk Cousins? Where should he be? I mean, I don't think anybody's drafting him as the number five quarterback next time. No, and that's why Kurt Cousins is so glorious because I think that's who he is. I think he is a 5 to 10 range quarterback that will always be drafted late because people don't like him.

Would you take Kirk Cousins or Russell Wilson next year? I'll take Kirk Cousins. Wow. For average, for average draft position, I would take, I would take Kirk Cousins. Exactly. If you're asking who finishes higher, I think Russell Wilson finishes higher. But Kirk Cousins is the first example here on our list of why you don't draft a quarterback early. You lost over Matt Ryan. Well, no, I'm drafted after Kurt Couss. I agree looking backwards. I'm saying looking forward, I think Matt Ryan will be drafted high, but Kirk won't.

He just won't. People will not believe in him. They never will. And so I agree with you, Mike, that he is going to perform fine for fantasy. And you're going to get him in the 10th round or, you know, around that range. Yeah. And 5, 6, 7, and 8 on this list. And this is, so people at home understand this is the rankings based on half point scoring, correct? Well, that's regardless because they don't get half point. They get, this is, I believe.

This is four point per touchdown, though. Yeah, standard scoring. That's the question. Cousins, Prescott, Stafford, and Taylor are all, we're all drafted outside the top 100 picks and finish 5, 6, 7, 8. Right. And so that's the, just to add to your point. Happens every year. So Prescott, I mean, obviously undrafted for the most part. Right. He played 16 games. He only had 3,600 passing yards. But again, he was finding.

They were trusting him more and more to put up yardage towards the end of the season. So I don't really like looking at the season ending stats for him as much as I do, the consistency level. And for him, he was very consistent. He didn't really have any of those monster games. That was the one thing you never saw from Prescott. You never saw, you know, a four touchdown plus a running touchdown, those Cam Newton type games from last year. But he could run it. He had six rushing touchdowns.

and he played very, very well. I mean, so Dad Prescott is very curious to me for next season because obviously they're going to move on from Tony Romo. It'll be Prescott's job. I like him a lot. Yeah, I do too. I have no idea, no barometer for this guy as to where he'll be drafted. I can't possibly get a grip on whether people will believe and draft them early or whether they'll think it was a rookie year and he'll have a sophomore slump and draft him late. It's entirely depending on that. Is it Prescott or?

Dak Prescott or Kurt Cousins for you, Jason? I would rather have the more consistent Dak Prescott than the more fiery Kirk Cousins. You're talking about the guy who was in the top 10 times, Kirk Cousins? Yeah, it's hard to say more consistent because Cousins was the third most consistent this year. Yeah, but Prescott was, well, there's only one season for Prescott. Yeah, but not for Kirk Cousins.

We've seen him have big monster games. If you look at last year, he had big monster games and a lot of bad games as well. Okay. All right. So you would take Prescott? I would. I would probably, I would still take cousins here. But I really like Dak moving into next year. The knock on him. Hard for me to trade in 1,300 yards. Right. For DAC. And that's people, the knock on DAC right now.

Like, well, his passing attempts, you know, they're low, the yardage is low. It, it reminds me exactly of Tony Romo. Yeah. When Tony Romo was dominant for fantasy purposes, because while I like attempts, I like a team that's going to throw a lot, I like a guy who is also hyper efficient with his pass attempts. And.

This is a guy who was building up his chemistry with his number one wide receiver. As much as I love Cole Beasley, clearly, I mean, Des is the better talent. And once Dak starts going to Desmore, then I think his numbers are going to go up. I think he's over 4,000 next year. All right. So let's talk about Stafford and Tyrod Till. There's 7-8 on this list. From a consistency perspective, you know, Stafford was fairly consistent.

He only had 24 touchdowns. It was a weird year for Stafford. Like both of these guys, I look at them, and I see him at 7 and 8, and I just kind of like, I have that smirk face that like, huh? I'm going to be madly. It just doesn't feel like a top 10 year for Stafford? Well, Stafford did in the beginning of the year. Stafford was great to start. No, I know. But I'm saying because of how he finished and because of how inconsistent Taylor was, by the way, 18th most consistent quarterback, despite finishing number 8, that's brutal. Tyrod Taylor.

Stafford, too. He had five of Stafford's games were outside the top 21. So you talk about a season where that's why I'm saying I look sideways at him and I go, how many of those games were the finger games were the finger games. Well, once he broke. That factored, man. Once he broke his finger, it was everything changed for him. He stopped throwing touchdowns, started throwing interceptions. Matthew Stafford to me is a guy that will probably like looking forward.

He might be my number one target next year because he's going to go very late. He lost Theoretic, which is a huge help. Yeah, he lost him. And what was that stat about Theoretic? That was that you? Yeah, that was me. I apologize. Theoretic. Well, actually, technically it was Kyle Bologna who found this. It's on our article. He has a first name. Kyle Bologna. Yeah, my Bologna has a first name. It's spelled K Y L E. Um.

So anyways, you're welcome out there. That's our lead editor on the website. It sure is. It's highly respected. And great food if you're in a prison. Yes, also that. Anyways, Theo Riddick, Theo Riddick missed five games. You know, he missed a third of the season, and he was the league leader in touchdown receptions at the running back position. That's incredible. That's good.

And you miss that. You break your finger. Matthew Stafford started the year on absolute fire and had things, you know, not break his way. And so looking next year, I think Matthew Stafford has, is a guy all target. I agree. I think he'll be one of my targets as well with cousins. But the thing about Stafford is it just, it always seems to fall apart at some point. That's true. And normally it's December.

Yes. So you can blame the finger, but he's got a bad run. He's got a bad history in December. This is what you do. You draft Stafford trade him for Russell Wilson. For the second half. Yeah. Stafford starts hot. We'll talk about Wilson in a minute. Taylor, I mean, who knows where he's going to be? Only 3,000 passing yards, 17 touchdowns. It was all about the running game, 580 rushing yards and six rushing touchdowns. Are they committed to him? Are they not committed to him? It appears like it's almost a lock that they're going to cut him from news reports, which.

is surprising to me, but everything... Is that a Tony Romo destination? Buffalo? Yeah. Oh, my Sammy Watkins dynasty ownership says, yes, please. I would say no. If there was the reports, one of the Dallas beat reporters was saying they're probably going to end up cutting him. Romo. That was his prediction anyways. I don't know if that's going to happen or if he'll get traded. But it's... I mean, that's... It makes sense.

It makes, well, Houston, they still have to eat that Brock contract. I don't know if you can pay that much to just the quarterback position. That would be great. Tony Rome on Houston would be glorious. Nine and ten on this list, Blake Bortles and Russell Wilson, or as we call him. Russell Wilson. Look, Wilson doesn't belong at 10 to me. That's what his numbers put him. No, I know. But this isn't an argument list. These are facts. Didn't you just tell me a story about a finger? Yeah.

Once upon a time. Let's hear a story about some ankles. Yeah, I mean, Russell Wilson's start compared to his finished was just a different level. Obviously, losing Lockett, who knows whether he'll be back at the beginning of next year. Right. Well, yeah, for the reports or he will. It was the rushing. It was the rushing yardage that went down. He didn't get out of the pocket. He couldn't run. That killed his fantasy value, yet he still finished as a top 10 fantasy quarterback.

But we're getting ahead of ourselves. Let's talk about Bortles first. Number nine. How is Bortle's number nine? It's just... So the Gardner's Man can. Look, Bortle's piece. I mean, remember that game against Tennessee? Where he played pretty much the worst game I've ever seen in my life and then finished with like 350 and three touchdowns? No. But is he a candidate with the weapons in place? If Chip Kelly went there, even if he doesn't, you got a new head coach. He played okay at the very end of the year. He's young. He's young.

Alan Robinson, Marquis Lee, Alan Hearns. The reports that he was playing through a multiple, multiple times of separating his shoulder, I believe, an elbow injury. I mean, there's things that make sense. The regression was completely expected for Blake Bortles. He wasn't going to repeat the numbers. And we said it all last year. But to go from what he was, where he was, you know, evolving into maybe an okay quarterback to go to, you're just an embarrassment on the field.

There's, there has to be reasons for these things happening, and maybe it was the injury. There is massive risk with border. Now, fortunately. Maybe. It depends on where you, what are you going to have to pay in the draft for Bulls? Well, and, yeah, I'm speaking in terms of like, Bortles, if he played very poorly for the first four games next year, there's no reason they wouldn't switch off of him. Oh, for the team? Yeah, the team, the team could break him. I'm just saying.

he's the first guy on this list that that could happen to. But that being said, we saw what he did. We saw what he did a year ago. We saw that potential he has, and we know the weapons. He has to get his mechanics right. Apparently, there's shoulders an issue. If I played like that, I'd be blaming shoulders, elbows, knees, and toes. I mean, it would be, everything would be hurt for me. He was terrible against good passing defenses.

Only 200 yards and one touchdown on average against top passing defenses. That's pretty average, normal for mortals there.