Week 3 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, Jason Survives! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/17

then it would still be P. Ryan, looking over what he's capable of doing, reminding me a little bit of how we, we were never big Damian Williams fans of the talent. Right. But in this offense, just being where you need to be is a pretty valuable trait. Yeah, I mean, that role will have over the next, you know, I think Pacheco, you know, it's said six to eight weeks. So look at it as two months. You're going to, you're going to miss them for two months. Over that time, there will be probably three or four receiving touchdowns to the receiving back on this team. And touchdowns are just about everything in fantasy. Mike, do you have any disagreement with the strategy there? I lean more on the side of Carson Steele, but it's a, I think that the real high value touches are going to be split of I would expect P. Ryan will be the third down guy and worked in a little bit on first and second down. He should catch more passes.

But when they get to the goal line, that should be Carson Steele. Yes. You prefer to have the running back who has both of those things. That's how you actually get fantasy production. So it's more a question of what do you believe the Kansas City Chiefs do? Because they have, they've been extremely run heavy. Like the, let me pull up Mahomes actual. I love Pacheco. Mahomes in the first two games has thrown the ball 28 times and 25 times. Like that is. that's not elite volume. That doesn't make sense for Patrick Mahomes. It makes sense for like the last year or sort of that that's what the team has become. But that team at Isaiah Pacheco, do they morph back to the, we're going to try to be the high flyers and then Somaget P. Rines on the field all the time. It's a very tough situation to gauge. I feel like you do, you've got to make a call. You should be going after these guys. I just don't know what level of fab to put on them. Do you burn?

A priority. Like, Somaget P. Ryan is on a few more rosters than Carson Steele. Or whatever. Let's say they're both there, Jay. You have the number one waiver priority. Are you burning it for one of these guys? Yeah, I am. I'm taking a shot. I know for a fact that their running back has gone for two months. So I am, this is not a one week asset. This is a couple month asset. You burn your priority for it. And the truth is Carson Steele is the much more explosive. athlete, and if you want a home run, if one of these picks ends up being just an absolute home run, in the next two months we look back and we're like, we should have dumped everything. That could only be Carson Steele. P. Ryan can't be a superstar. However, I really do believe P. Ryan is going to be an every week flex option and we'll score more fantasy points than Steele. And it is worth mentioning, again, we don't know how the breakdown's going to go. But Carson Steele has pass catching in his profile.

as a college player. His second year at Ball State, he got 29 passes at UCLA. You know, the volume went way down, of course. It was from 289 carries down to 167, still a great yards per carry. And he caught 17 passes. Like catching 17 passes in college is at the running backs slash fullback, whatever position. That's not bad. He has the ability. What I'm hearing, though, is that have cream hunt signs today. It's quite a bet for your fab. And maybe you'd, would you still want to dance with the Kansas City roulette or would you want to turn your attention to Rico Dowdo who got the start? And it seems like, it seems like the Cowboys are figuring out the fact that like they need to move beyond, you know, Zeke because Deuce Von got opportunities. Sure. Do you do look at, you know, if you're in a one week start, do you, do you save the fab and look to a.

Cam Acres? I'm not as concerned. Or Ty Chandler? I'm not as concerned about Kareem Hunt as Jason is because I think he's, I think he's toast. But they need depth at the position. So even if Kareem Hunt is added, I don't think that he's the starter. Having seen him play the last couple of years, it's been bad. It's been very inefficient. So moving to that question, Rico Dowdell is so tough because. Over two weeks, he's not a playable guy, but from week one where he was, he was the backup, it was a time share of the opportunities were very split, but it was very close between him and Zeke, then he gets the start, but now Deuce Vaughn has put himself into it. The great news for Rico Dowdell at this point is maybe the arrow keeps going up, 43% of the snaps, five targets.

for Rico Dowdle. You know, the offseason was, hey, Rico Dowell looks like he's going to be the pass catching running back for the Dallas Cowboys. It looks like that part is true and he could keep earning more and more playtime. All right. So what are you doing with that roulette, Jason? If Cream Hunt signs, are you still making the Kansas City investment? over the other options? I would probably pivot to other options if I'm talking about burning a priority. On a fab system, I'm going to go after pretty much all of these guys. You brought up Ty Chandler. Ty Chandler is a really good option. He has looked very good. He's obviously the second in the timeshare here, but I think you could start him in a pinch. And even Deonti Foreman, I don't think we've brought his name up. He had 14 carries last week.

in a tough matchup against Jacksonville. He didn't do much with it. Gets the Giants next week. But yeah, the Giants this week, and he's widely available. And he won't cost you anything. I mean, he won't cost you much. Yeah, Ty Chandler, 10 carries. Deontiformin, 14 carries. Rico Duttall had seven with the targets. Braille and Ellen scored twice. I feel like that stat line. He is the Quentin Johnston of the running back position this week. Two scores. You know, having, you know, seven carries and four targets is not. It's not nothing. That's not nothing. So, you know, when you think about long term, obviously he's never going to threaten Brees Hall in this offense. But, you know, if you have Brees Hall, is this a high priority ad compared to what he used to be? Yeah, looking around what is happening, the devastation that is that is raining down on us with the injuries. I think at this point you should ensure yourself as in.

If Brees miss his time, Braylon Allen would be a full fab dump. He would be a full priority burn, and he would be very good for fantasy. He looks really good. You know, when you talk about how Trey Benson's looked so far as a rookie versus how Braylin Allen's looked, I mean, there's been a pretty marked difference. I could not believe what the NFL said they thought of Braylon Allen in the draft was shocking to me. Me too. I mean, he was like. The kid is 20 years old right now. And he is an absolute Mac truck. Yeah. And who had tons of production. His fall in the draft was strange. Youngest player to ever score touchdown. And now he, now the NFL looks stupid. Are you dropping Chase Brown, who's had only 10 opportunities in two weeks to pick up one of these guys? To pick up one of these guys, yes. If I, yeah, if I need production right now, Chase Brown's still a fine stash, but you got to make moves if you need points. Blake Horm, you're saying goodbye to Blake quorum. You.

Yeah, if I need points. I think so. I'm not even sure that it would be Blake Corum if Kyron went down now. It seems like it might be Rivers. And how heavy do you want to be invested in that offense? Zemir White has done nothing. I'm not dropping Zemir White. I'm not either. They've got Carolina this week. I believe he has a really good week this week. And then one of the other drop candidates, which is a huge, no way for me, but Gus Edwards. Gus Edwards is someone who might have been dropped in your league last week. He's mostly rostered, but he was dropped in our league.

Go look for him because 29 carries. Yeah, I mean, no, he should 100% be rostered. Also, I don't think we really set our order here what to do with the Houston backfield. We've got to, you know, what is your pecking order, your flow chart for the Joe Mixon situation? I am probably not prioritizing Houston running backs unless I have Joe Mixon. And if I have Joe Mixon, I'm probably just trying to pick up Cam Acres because he looked better. than Damien Pierce in the preseason and I don't think Pierce coming off a hamstring injury is going to get all the work. So I'll take the player that was on the field last week that looked better in preseason that I think the team trusts versus taking the shot on Pierce who when he has had opportunities in the last year hasn't looked good. So I would go Cam Acres. I would go Cam Acres too. I agree completely. I'm Cam Acres. However.

I would not go hard. I would make a zero dollar bid on him because I'm fine losing out on him. This appears to be a one week rental that might be a zero week rental. And that one week is against Minnesota. And that Flores defense has looked awesome. I agree. Yeah, this is the, this is the Jeff Wilson Gamble of last week. If you want to see the entire order of our waiver rankings, including the addition of some higher rostered players that might be available in your league like Zach Charbonnege. Go to the website, the fancy footballers.com, and check that out.

And Isaac Garindo is another guy to, he should just be stashed. He's the new next man up for the 49ers. Should Jordan Mason get injured? All right. At wide receiver, if he's not on a roster, please put Rashid Shahid on a roster. We have a number of 56% as a roster percentage. So he's been integral to the Saints offense. But the big storyline is how much do you spend on Quentin Johnston? Because he's kind of been the most available. most popular pickup at wide receiver. And is he that for you? And what would you actually invest? Yeah, I don't, I, I'm not going to invest a lot in any of these wide receivers this week. There are, there's like a dozen wide receivers that I think are all similar to each other where I'm going to save my fab money. I don't see Quentin Johnston as a great, you know, break up like I have to have him. He's going to make a huge difference.

He got the two touchdowns last week. Now, Shahid, if he was out there, I would go a little harder after him. But everyone else, I mean, we talked about Yoshavah, he could be great. You still have the, you know, the Rams players lost cup. So you can go back to the well of trying to go after DeMarcus Robinson or Tyler Johnson. Those are the top two, right? And then Tutu Atwell would be behind. Whittington would be behind. I would go Whittington as the third. Whittington should be the. Whittington should be the replacement for Cup. Like he should be the, he'll play in the slot. Where Tyler Johnson took over the puka roll, I think that's how it shakes out. No, Tutu will get on the field. And Stafford, the Rams are so strange with Tutu Atwell, because whenever he's out there, he's targeted. Stafford throws in the ball, and then they don't give him playing time, but Stafford seems to find him easily and loves throwing him the ball. That's a very strange situation.

the higher snaps, I believe, will go to Whittington. Outside of Shahid being available, I would, Robinson would be my biggest ad, then probably. So Robinson over Quentin? For me, yeah, because I just think that it's anomalous. I am not confident in any Chargers light out. I mentioned it yesterday. I could be proven wrong in the right matchup. But I don't know who it's going to be. I believe you're going to get a Palmer week. You're going to get a Disley week. You're going to get. you know, a rotation, and it's not going to be consistent because the passing volume is not going to be needed. If you run the ball 35 times a game, which I think their defense is good. I mean, what are they, they've given up 13 points on the year in two weeks? Like, the recipe for them is going to be burning the clock, running the football, and passing when you have to on third down, it feels like. And so for me, Quentin Johnson, if he doesn't score, he's the bust. McConkey, if he doesn't score for me,

Bust. Palmer, same thing. So for me, Quentin is the player. Everybody's going to go spend their fab on that I'm probably not going to spend it on personally. Sure. He's ranked, you know, near the top, but that's not meaning that I'm going to go burn the waiver priority. It's if I can get them for cheap or for free and have a pivot option that works. Robinson should be valuable for a team that doesn't, you know, that's hurt on the defensive side. They gave up a ton of points. Should be throwing the football. The schedule is brutal. For the Rams. Yeah, I mean, negative game scripts. Throw the football. San Francisco, Chicago, Green Bay are the next three. Yeah, I mean, that's just the way that I break it down. I do think that Yoshivas should be paid attention to in Cincinnati. If Higgins misses another game, it could be good as soon as Monday night for Yoshivas. Yeah, and sometimes you just need a week. You just need to stream a flex type of wide receiver and you say who's got a good matchup.

an opportunity. Juan Jennings for the 49ers with Debo Samuel out. He should step right into that role. I love it. He looks good out there this week. He gets to play against the Rams who are beat up. I would be fine picking him up and starting. Do you see who got his first catch of the year for the 49ers last week, though, after the, you know. I believe Chris Conley. What? I believe Chris Conley caught a pass. Missed that one. Am I? Am I? I don't know. I'm pretty sure he still plays football. Yeah, he's a 49er. All right. Are you paying any attention to Jalen Tolbert's nine targets? Six for 82. It was interesting because Brandon Cooks only had two in that game. Of the Dallas Cowboys. That's where Tolbert is. And Jalen Tolbert, you know, the game was weird. They were being humiliated. They were throwing the ball a ton unsuccessfully. Do you make...

I mean, what do you? I still like Cooks over Tolbert. Yeah, I would still prioritize Cooks, but it's a, like, Brandon Cooks was in that game that they were getting humiliated and he only ended up with, you know, two targets where Jalen Tolbert, it's, has Tolbert figured something out is more of the question. Like in just stashing him. I think it's a stash. If you don't need a wide receiver help right now. and you're going to let everybody else fight for the high profile players. Are you going to stash someone like Jalen Tolbert or Mike Williams from the Jets? Oh, Mike Williams. Mike Williams, as he gets healthier and healthier, you know, he didn't play much in week one. I think three weeks from now, Mike Williams will be a guy you can start in your flex every week. I don't expect Tolbert to get there. He could, but I have a higher, you know, probabilities on Mike Williams personally. They pulled DAC in that game as well.

Like, that game was just toast. Another Joanne Jennings type of player is Josh Reynolds. Josh Reynolds is a quality NFL-wide receiver, not special for fantasy, but he's been really involved. On the Denver Broncos. Yes, on the Denver Broncos. He gets a matchup against Tampa Bay. He had 93 yards last week. I think he's fine for a, you know, a spot start. Kalia Shakir if he's out there, is in the massively rostered, but should pick up. It's five for 54 in this last week. Tyler Johnson is the secondary guy, I think, to pick up in Los Angeles, way less rostered. Would you spend a priority on Tyler Johnson with the window of opportunity, or do you think it's just going to be too many targets? I wouldn't burn a priority on Tyler Johnson with San Francisco and Chicago as the next two matchups. I will mention a player that has looked, he looked better than any wide receiver on this team in the preseason. Got hurt, disrupted his start to the regular season.

But Josh Downs will be back soon in Indianapolis. And Josh Downs, they could use a player like him in this offense. Right now everything's downfield, which has been literally hit and miss for Anthony Richardson. So Josh Downs, I think if they had a rapport in the preseason and he looked good, he would be a deep league staff. For sure. And Darnell Mooney, we talked about him in the game breakdown, but he is the wide receiver too. If Kirk Cousins keeps getting better and healthier. Being able to be more comfortable in the pocket, I think, you know, that's a guy I would want on my roster for sure. And Jerry Judy, he's mostly rostered, but he actually looked, you know, we've got to give him a little bit of credit because it's been a long time since we've spoken positively about Jerry Judy, but he looked good last week. He made a couple of good catches. I was made to feel very bad every time I took him at the last pick of every draft. So five for 73.

and Amari Cooper is not on the same page with Deshawn Watson the way Judy has been. So what do you believe about Alec Pierce right now who's playing a ton of snaps? Just to circle back to Indianapolis. I know he's the wide receiver six on the year, but you're just, you know. It's fools gold. I have a hard time grabbing Alec Pierce who has spent so much of his career running downfield and not coming down with those catches that. You know, to put them in my lineup and start him is just, if I've got Anthony Richardson and I'm a super underdog, okay, sure. I'm just going to try to, you know, go for the fire and hope he catches a bomb touchdown. But I have a really hard time buying into Alec Pierce. All right. Let's play. Oh, and the Dorch is a good start this week. Against Detroit, they give up so many slot points. I wouldn't do it. I would.

He was just like, he was just useless last week. Oh, yeah. I mean, Marve took over and then. Well, I mean, Marvel only had four catches in the game. Yeah, but he took over drives. Like he finished multiple drives to start the game. I was discouraged with the dorts last week is all I'm saying. Two for 11. If that's a range of outcomes, that bugged me. Yeah, it's really just a matchup play. It's the fact that it's Detroit and they give up the most slot fantasy points and that's kind of his role. Are you saying goodbye to Christian Kirk? I'm willing to you. Yeah. Keon Coleman. No. No. Josh Palmer. Yes. Michael Pittman. No. Cortland Sutton. Sure. I mean, he's fine. You can. DeAndre Hopkins. He's just like all these players. If he was out there, we could say the same thing. No, Hopkins still coming back from injury. I'd hold him. Yeah, it would too. Who do you believe in more after their big week at tight end? Hunter Henry, Mike Gisicki, or Zach Ertz? Long term.

Long term, if it's long term, it's not Ertz or Henry or Gisicki. I mean, long term is just not how you, I don't think you can view the tight end position on waivers that way. Well, I mean, people that had Dalton Schultz, he's doing nothing. People that have had, you know, these spot start guys that are doing nothing. I mean, you've got two weeks. Yeah, which I'm saying is like, I'm going to just be trying to stream the position, find matchups. So I'll take. Gassiki because he's got the commanders this week. They're at home, and he, you know, nine targets last week. So Gisiki would be your top picka? Yeah. I think I'd probably ride with Hunter Henry for this particular week. Jets. Yeah, yeah, but I mean, who's sauce going to take away? Not Hunter Henry, I wouldn't think. I don't know. Maybe. He was 75% of their yards. Maybe that's what the Jets end up doing. Zackertz is, the floor is safe.

The ceiling is non-existent. And Mike Gisicki is like, we just, we have not seen repeatedly Joe Burrow force feed the tight end position. And Jamar Chase had, well, Jamar Chase was under 20% of the targets last week. I expect a market correction for Jamar. And if T is back, then it's even worse for Gisciki. 15%. 15% of the targets went to Jamar Chase. What are you doing? What are you doing? He's better than Jamar, obviously. Okay, so those are the three big names for a streaming tight-in candidate that are probably worth mentioning. I am intrigued at the fact that Johnny Smith has been used in the Miami offense the way that he has. They don't really have a wide receiver three. They tried to throw the football to Robbie Chosen and Du Bois.

John who had seven targets. I don't want to ignore that. And I don't want to ignore it when he provides an easy. Skyler. Yeah, he provides an easy path for Skyler to get the ball out of his hands early in the drive and swing it out to Johnny, who's more of a wide receiver. I am just going to flag his name as an emergency. All right. That's right. What about Cole Strange? The offensive linemen for the Patriots, I think, is not going to be a big play. But Britain's Strange also probably shouldn't be picked up. Defensively, favorite pickups other week, could he have? The Raiders? Well, I don't care that it's Andy Dalton. Andy Dalton will throw interceptions. I would say, I mean, the Browns are one of my favorite plays. They're not probably a pickup this week. They're super rostered. The Green Bay Packers have a pretty good defense. Will Lovis loves to just make boneheaded mistakes.

where the other team can make touchdowns. How frustrated is his head coach in him right now? Oh my gosh. He hates him. Normally, it does seem like he hates Will Levis. I mean, normally you go to bat for your quarterback and in week one, you don't say it would have been better that we just punted on first down. And in week two, he just literally is like, he did it again. He's like he did it again. The play's dumb. It's stupid. He's a big boy. He knows what he did wrong. Like, I think, I think that's what Willa Levis needs. He needs.

Shame? He needs to be shamed out of, he needs to be like, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the quintessential spanking. It's like, you are going to remember your lesson. Publicly. Yeah, you didn't. You don't spank in front of everybody, do you? No, no. But that, I mean, this is how, you know, you spank verbally at the podium. So Will Levis, yeah, that was frustrating. So Tennessee, I mean, Will Levis with the mistakes. They play Green Bay. Green Bay could be picked up. Inversely, Tennessee could be picked up. They've been playing well on defense, and Malik Willis is their current quarterback. It will be interesting to see that that version of the Green Bay Packers, not versus the Colts. And not at home, not at Lambo. They're going to be in Tennessee. I think the Titans defense might be a better pickup than the Packers defense. I want both, but I usually when I'm in the tiebreaker, I'm going to go with the home.

crowd. The Colts get to play at home against Chicago, who has no offensive line right now. And without Keenan Allen, if he's not back out there, target Caleb Williams. Yeah. You know, seven sacks, I think, last week pressured on 27 of 28 dropbacks. The Colts can do that a little bit this week and keep targeting the Bears. You know, Tampa, Tampa's a tough one. They play Denver, so you say, okay, it's Bo Nix. But Tampa has not put up a lot of fancy points on defense through two weeks when I was looking at them. That one is, it's a good start. It's fine. Like if you want to mitigate against possible major problems against you, like you can go that direction. I don't think Bo Nix is putting up big points. Bow Nix. How'd it feel? Oh, good, man. All right. And then Minnesota, you know, Houston, they look great on defense. They take on Minnesota. Sam Darnold. I still think it's a target.

Yeah, I think that's fine. I think that's fine. Sam Darnold is playing very well, looks good. He's got an offensive system and Justin Jefferson, but it is Sam Darnold. And, you know, if we look back a month from now and go, oh, yeah, it was, you know, it was not going to be a season long of greatness. You know, Sam Donald's had good stretches in the past. I think he started one of the years in Carolina. I think the first month of the season, he was like the quarterback water. Oh, yeah, he gets all the rushing touchdowns. Yeah, it was like, I think we were a month into the season and he was the NFL leading leader in rushing touchdowns. Thanks again to NFL Sunday ticket on YouTube TV. Watch every game every Sunday when you bundle NFL Sunday ticket and YouTube TV. Sign up today at YouTube.com slash fantasy footballers, local and national games on YouTube TV. NFL Sunday ticket for out of market games excludes. Digital only games, device and content restrictions apply. Let's talk quarterbacks.

All right, let's talk quarterbacks. Full stream ahead. All right, I'm going to go first here because I intentionally did not choose Jason's player. Okay. Because I didn't want to jinx him. And he's going to cost you this week. The reaction, and the spoiler alert is Derek Carr. The reaction to Derek Carr, I'm already seeing it on Twitter. I'm seeing it in messages to us. They want to know if you dump full fab on Derek Carr. They want to know how much Fab you spend on Derek Carr. And is this for real? The headline in the NFL through two weeks is the Saints offense. They've scored 15 consecutive times when Derek Carr has been the quarterback. Clint Kubiak, they're already chiseling him in stone. Which, by the way, if you're Chicago's offense with Shane Waldron, you interviewed Clint Kubiak. Maybe you should have gone that direction. No, they liked what they saw. But I didn't want to jinx car because when you give Carr the limelight, when you shine a light on him in the starts of the week,

or the streamers, and you hit that drop. I'm just saying it's scary. Well, hit it for me then. It sounds like I'm going first. We can do that. Send in the car. Send in the car. I will absolutely send in the car. He's been on fire, and the matchup is perfect. The Eagles, right now through two games, their defense is tied for 32nd in yards per play, 29th and EPA per play, 27th at sack rate, 23rd in quarterback pressures. I told you. They haven't had an edge sack. There's a branch over the trap. There's a branch over the trap. Let's lay another palm frond over the trap. I remember I've been here before. I'm scared. I'm in. Tell me why it's okay. It's okay because of Clint Kubiak's system. You see the changes. Last year, they were last in play action. Their first in play action, it's a completely modernized NFL system. And they were playing. I mean, you.