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Top 10 QB Rankings + “My Guy” Retry, Preseason Insight

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You know, Olden the Tooth is going to make a play for Rogers. They're going to throw the ball to the running back with a real. I mean, there are variables and a brand new head coach. And it hasn't gone exactly to plan. Bringing in Matt LaFleur, there's constant criticism from Aaron Rogers. So I think that there are more question marks around that offense, despite the fact we haven't ranked where we do. So just bringing those to mind. If you want to talk about a player who.

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I don't let confidence in. It's this next guy, my number two quarterback. Sure. Deshaun Watson, I think is, I mean, I think he has the best chance of supplanting Pat Mahomes as the number one quarterback because of his rushing ability combined with his just elite getting the job done touchdown throwing that he's had in his entire career. Getting the job. Touchdown throwing.

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Are you done talking? I am done talking. That's the end of the sentence? I thought you might have more. I needed Mike to chime in on that. Best for sure. And I did. DeAndre Hopkins, Will Fuller, when he's been healthy and active with Deshaun Watson, it's been something to behold last year, incredibly strong finish from weeks 12 on. Look, 551 rushing yards, five rushing touchdowns.

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I do agree that Watson has the ability to be that number one guy. Love Duke Johnson's edition. Hopefully Kiki is fine. So, yeah, there's a lot to like about Deshaun Watson. Right now you've got to draft him in the fifth round. And last year, Watson, like, there's actually not a lot of pass attempts. So the past two years, the Texans have been bottom 10 in total pass attempts with Watson, except they throw.

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near the goal line. He had 42 attempts inside the 10. That's the fifth among quarterbacks. So like the scoring opportunities are frequently there. You can see that. You feel that when you have Lamar Miller on your team. You go, well, they're scoring a bunch of points. Why isn't Lamar Miller rushing in more touchdowns? It's because they go to Watson when they're inside the 10. Either he throws one or he rushes it in. Number four is Carson wins. Thank you.

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My goodness. We have them at four. Thank you. We do have them at four. I think it makes a lot of sense. Mike has them at 11 is ADP is the QB7. We've got them at four. So this is the first kind of step out of ADP in a big way. I've talked about Carson Winston length. He's my guy. I've talked about the difference to Sean Jackson has made for fantasy quarterbacks throughout his career, minus James.

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Talked about the difference a healthy Alshan has made to Carson wins his numbers. Carson throws an extra touchdown. A little more than that when a healthy Alshon Jeffreys on the field. Dallas Goddert, Zach Ertz, JJ, the white side around the goal line. His offensive weapons are tops. Plus they're going to win the Super Bowl, Mike. Remember I saw the future? Yeah, I remember you saw the future on that show. Yeah.

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I mean, that's really all it comes down to, right? We've seen Carson Wince as an MVP candidate. We've seen him dominate in fantasy. Now he's removed from the ACL injury enough to where he doesn't even have the brace on. I think you're going to get back to a little bit more of the scrambling, the running, but you combine that with easily his best weapons. He's had in his short career. All the weapons Andy just named. I mean, I don't see how you're going to easily stop this offense.

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Even at running back, I mean, Miles Sanders projects to be a better pass catching back than what they've been dealing with with the Corey Clement and Josh Adams regime. So we're in, Jay, but Mike isn't in. So why doesn't, you know, it's not that I'm not in. I mean, I just prefer. You're certainly not as in. Correct. At 11. I mean, I have them in my top 12. I'm just, my expectations are far more tempered.

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for Carson Wentz when I look back at what the things he's actually been able to do on the field in terms of production. I just, I don't see the monster season coming for Carson. For me, he's my favorite late round pick that could end up in that upper echelon. That's kind of why he's endorsed. He's got the Andy Holloway, my guy endorsement. Andrew Luck at number five, Matt Ryan at number six. Luck right now?

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Step one. He's in a red jersey hanging around practice. So he's not playing yet, but he seems to think he'll be ready to go. Andrew Luck was my quarterback three before some of the calf scares just pushed him down for people that are drafting right now, want him to be aware, have that risk baked into his ranking. If we knew that he was healthy completely, you said that the Eagles are winning the Super Bowl.

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Early said that the Colts were my dark horse to win the Super Bowl. That is entirely dependent upon Andrew Luck's health. They're not a great team without Andrew Luck. And with Andrew Luck, they are one of the best offenses in the game. I think I believe in Frank Reich.

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I think at the end of this year, if we've got a healthy Andrew Luck, Frank Reich, will be discussed in the same conversations as, you know, when we talk about McVehan Reed and just gets great offensive minds that manufacture touchdowns for people. You've seen that when he was with the Eagles. You know, we just talked about, you know, two years ago when it was Carson Wins was the number five quarterback in football. That was with Frank Wright. And he was the number one through the time he got hurt. Right. So it's one of those.

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situations where it's hard to discuss Andrew Luck here. Without talking health. Emphatically because number four in 2013, number two in 2014, number four in 2016, number five in 2018. If he's healthy, he's great. What's it. What's wild is that that number finish for Andrew Luck, I mean, it just speaks to what the other quarterbacks are doing in the league because this was actually his best year. And he was coming off of a completely missed season.

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39 touchdowns, almost 4,600 yards, and his completion percentage on 639 attempts was over 67%. Like, Andrew Luck was awesome. 32 of the 39 touchdowns were red zone touchdown throws. He's just, he is a great quarterback and the fact that he can come off of the completely missed season in his first goal round with Frank Reich. I have supreme confidence in Andrew Luck if he's on the field.

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Matt Ryan comes in at number six on our consensus rankings. There is not consensus, however, in the studio about Matt Ryan. Mike and I both have him at four overall. Jason does not. I have them at four. Team. Team. It's so egregious. It really is maybe the most egregious thing.

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It's not egregious. Here's the thing. No, it's not egregious. It's egregious. Look, a lot of people out there. I mean, he finishes the quarterback two last year. So he has to be, you know, top five this year, right? For sure, because that's how, you know, we think is whatever happened last year will happen this year, except that isn't usually what happens. No one has made that more clear than Matt Ryan. If you look at his fantasy finishes over the last seven, eight years where he's gone from the number two.

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to the year before he was the 15th quarterback. He was the two the year before that. He was the 19th before that, the 7, the 15. And I don't say that to do the whole ping pong, good, you're bad year, good, you're bad year. This is a bad year. What I do is that three of the last six years, he has finished at the quarterback 15 or lower. So ranking him as the quarterback 14 is not egregious. It's all about touchdowns. That's it. I've got Matt Ryan for 4,600 plus.

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passing yards, he's on a great offense, is just touchdowns. Does he throw, you know, over the last four years, his average 16-game pace is 28 touchdowns. If he throws 28 touchdowns, he's going to be where I've got him ranked. You know, I've got him right now for 29 touchdowns, and of course, no rushing touchdowns. He had three rushing touchdowns last year, which was fair. He hasn't scored a rushing touchdown on the five previous seasons. So it's all touchdowns. If he goes out and throws 36 touchdowns,

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I'm a buffoon, and he's going to be the number four quarterback out there. Because I think we all agree the yards will be there with the founders. This is just how many touchdowns does it throw? Much stronger beginning to last year than end. The first nine weeks he was fighting with, you know, we brought up those turns before about there was a window of about seven, eight weeks where he was the same as Patrick Mahomes last year. But the first half versus second half, much stronger first half for Matt Ryan last year. I love the weapons. I love Julio.

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Calvin Ridley, year two, Sunu, Hooper. It's all before Matt Ryan to do what he needs to do to stay in that upper echelon of quarterbacks. What we don't disagree on, Jason, is everything with Matt Ryan is touchdowns. Over the last seven years, he has the second most passing yards slash passing yards per game behind only Drew Breeze. He has the second highest completion percentage behind only Drew Breeze. Matt Ryan is.

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Great. I don't think Matt Ryan gets the national recognition that he deserves. He is a great, great quarterback. And I, yards and if you are, if you attempts, I should say, completions and yards, it just, it turns into touchdown, statistically speaking. And Matt Ryan has had some weird ones. He, he, Julio Jones has also had some weird ones. And I think that the addition of.

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Calvin Ridley coming off of 10 touchdowns, his rookie season, I think that that is a huge deal. And I think that that increases the odds that Matt Ryan will be up over that 30 touchdown mark. He was the NFL MVP in 2016. So that's the ceiling for Matt Ryan. He was the NFL MVP in that year they went to the Super Bowl. Jared Goff comes in at number seven?

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He's seen his stock rise in the studio here over the last month or two. He can't really love woods and cooks and cup and not love Jared Gough. There has been some talk around camp. I don't know if you guys read this about multi-tight-in sets as a way to manage the rest for Cooper Cup. So Gerald Everett may seem more time on the field.

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But inversely, you may see a reduced snap count for Cooper Cup as he comes off the ACL and they try to control his reps. Nevertheless, great offense, great weapons. They added one in Daryl Henderson this offseason. A lot's been made of Jason's love for Robert Woods. Brandon Cook's year two now with this team. He doesn't even remember what that's like here too with a team. It's been a while. It's definitely been a while.

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Had some real nasty games at the end of last year. It wasn't just the Super Bowl. It was week 13 when he had eight fantasy points. It was week 14 when he had negative fantasy points. It really didn't put up monster numbers at the quarterback position from week 12 on. Yes. It was a rough ending of the season. It was real rough. And I will not refute that. If you want my full take on Jared Goff of why I believe him, he's my guy. He's my favorite late round.

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later round quarterback. You can check that out on The My Guys Show. But here's just a quick highlight of why I like Jared Goff. Last year he was a top six quarterback over 31% of his games, which is that's the same as Aaron Rogers, Russell Wilson, Big Ben, Deshaun Watson, guys that are you expect to put up big games. He had the second most completions of 20 or more yards behind only Patrick Mahomes. The Rams offense is elite and they are going to stay there.

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as elite. You have three wide receivers being drafted in the top 50. I would like the guy who's throwing them the ball because I believe in those wide receivers. And I think that there's room for growth as well, some positive regression coming inside the red zone. Both Patrick Mahomes, Andrew Luck, and Jared Goff. They all had 100 attempts inside the red zone, except both Mahomes and Andrew Luck.

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had over 30 touchdowns on those attempts. Well, Jared Goff was down at 23, and I believe that was a direct result of Cooper Cup not being around for the second half of the season. I love Jared Goff. All right. Baker Mayfield at 8. What do we think about Baker Mayfield? Because I know we all love him. Mike, you got him at 5. Jason and I have him at 9. He's going to have a very productive season without question.

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He doesn't run the ball like other quarterbacks do traditionally. So it takes a little bit of the top end off for me. That's why he landed where he landed. I'm not out to Barry Baker because he's being drafted as the QB5. Jason and I have him at 9. It's just the way it ended up. So, you know, I view him as being overdrafted. People want.

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