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Top 10 QB Rankings + “My Guy” Retry, Preseason Insight

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I really did. I liked his film in college. I really was hoping he went to some team with an offensive mind. I wanted Sean Peyton or Andy Reid or someone that could take his skill set and utilize it. I didn't like the landing spot with Buffalo, but I'm starting to come around because I do want to run the ball and I think he's a hyper talented back. He looked good in receiving. He looked good. Honestly, he...

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He was pounding it hard through the middle. He was getting to the edge. He was catching the ball. He was like this well-rounded back in very limited work. So Devin Singletary would be my takeaway that I'm keeping my eyes on the rest of the preseason. And update, Adam Thielen is still a very good wide receiver. If you didn't see that highlight, it was a sensational catch, which was followed up by it's, this is not an overreaction, not reading into because it was Alexander Madison playing as the starting running back. But the fact that they were on the one.

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And they went to a play action, and then it was just a dump off to Madison. It was a passing play on the one to the running back. That's very interesting for Dalvin.

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If that's going to be in the repertoire. Yeah, I was going to say, Mike Boone had a great showing in that game, too. He always does. Like Boone is a preseason hero. 24 years old, though. What I'm saying is I don't believe Madison is guaranteed to have that handcuff role in Minnesota. I do not think that that is a guarantee. And I firmly do. And I am firmly on the side with Andy where there's no way that we can, I can't imagine that being a guarantee that it's Madison's. Right now, I think.

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they don't know who the official backup is. You also had, I mean, just to circle back to the 49ers, Debo Samuel had a great game, Jalen Hurd had a great game, two touchdowns. Both players are worth late-round shots to me to see if somebody emerges. Trent Taylor, injured, going to be out in an extended period of time. There are targets to go around George Kittle. Predicting them might be difficult, but why not see what you got? I mean, Hurd may have a lot of opportunities around the goal line. Well, let's talk real quick about George Kittle then. Yes.

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The lack of confidence in Dante Pettis, has that increased your confidence in George Kittle? Because we all, Kittle is a great player. But what he did last year was very opportunistic. There was no one around. Like you said, Dante Pettis, the guy that we're talking about was 27 career receptions. Everybody in that wide receiver court was hurt. So George Kittle dominated. He also dominated the targets where it wasn't so clear that Kittle would get.

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the same type of target share at all, but there is a clear lack of confidence in any of the wide receivers. I told Jason in the studio a couple weeks ago how much I'm rising on George Kittle from a guaranteed output standpoint. I think Kittle is, look, everybody gets there are a lot of tight ends in history that get that kind of opportunistic situation. Not many of them can break the record for yards on a season and do what he did. So yes, I'm very, very confident in George Kittle this season.

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Yeah, I was going to say when Trent Taylor went down, everybody got a small bump up, you know, the Jalen Hurd and Debo Samuel. But the guy that I was most confident in saying, okay, we need a real, you know, Trent Taylor is that little safety valve. I think George Kittle is, you know, he's a guy that I've been avoiding in drafts up to this point just because he's very expensive, not because I don't think he's going to be good, but he's got to be good.

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to justify that price. He's got to be great. Yes, he's got to be great to justify that price. And I'm having, like you, Andy, I'm having confidence switch because a long time ago early in the off season on a buy sell, I was selling Kittle. And I think I'm buying. Yeah, I think obviously Dallas Goddert in Philadelphia is missing the rest of the preseason. That will factor into your Zachert's confidence. Obviously, Ertz, Kittle, two of the top three tight ends. We do have a top ten quarterback show today.

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And what day is it again, Brooks? Tuesday. It's Monday. Monday. Okay. Well, we'll get into some news first. News and notes from around the league presented by Sleeper. We haven't got to react to the Antonio Brown helmet news yet. Told the Raiders he won't play football again. If the league doesn't let him wear his helmet, then they went to court and they petitioned to let him wear the helmet. And then he said, if you don't let me wear the helmet and I get hurting your new helmet, I'm going to sue you. Because this is how.

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This is how the offseason is gone for Antonio Brown. So Tom Brady came out this morning. He says it's been a tough adjustment for him, moving to this new helmet. He's worn the same helmet for the last four Super Bowls, 12 straight years, and then he's got to make the adjustment. He's like, eh, this kind of sucks, but I got to do it. Antonio Brown doesn't seem willing to say, this kind of sucks. I got to do it. He might, but...

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Yeah, I mean, when you're in a negotiation and something is really strong for you, you can say, I'm going to take my ball and go home. Whether or not he would do it, if his bluff is called, is really the question. And I would venture to believe that if they force him to change helmets, he will still play football. I cannot imagine that his legacy, not to mention the money that he has coming his way, would just all vanish because of the helmet.

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It is one thing where when you're in a draft and there's other guys in the same tier, I'm definitely not drafting Antonio Brown right now because other guys don't carry some percentage risk of just retiring out of the blue. But I don't expect him to retire even if he loses the battle with the NFL. His ADP was in the second round until the feet and the helmet stuff. It's later now in the third, fourth round, even.

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I want to believe what you're saying. I mean, this is the same Antonio Brown that in an interview said he doesn't need football at all when they were debating and discussing this contract deal before we got traded. He's definitely a variable, but best wide receiver the last 10 years. So that's what you're playing with. The athletic is reporting projecting the Jerry McKinnon will open 2019 on the injured reserve. Hey, Tavan Coleman.

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Yeah, Tevin Coleman looks like an 80-piece steel right now. We'll see if that persists. He was Tevin Coleman. Oh, but there was a time when he was. Kevin Coleman! Oh, we went full. We did. He hasn't gotten enough love because I love Matt Breedah. Right. Because he's free at the end of draft. But Tevin Coleman right now, if he, he's a what, fourth, fifth round pick? It's going to go up.

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But if you are drafting right now and he goes around his ADP, I would be snatching him up. Rahim Ostar got hurt as well. Man, that guy. That backfield, we said, oh, look how many guys they have. They didn't have that many. Aaron Jones returned to practice. Calvin Ridley returned to practice. Duke Johnson isn't going to practice because he has a hamstring injury. So there you go. Nikiel Harry left the game after a couple of nice catches.

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tweaked his hamstring during practice. So we'll see what happens. Right now, Jacobi Myers is ahead of Nikiel Harry on the depth chart, which this is not a veteran getting a little nod. The new Jacobi Myers is a undrafted free agent-wide receiver, made many plays in the preseason game, something to watch. Harry made plays in the game as well, but is banged up. So we'll see what happens. Paris Campbell's now missed two weeks of...

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practice with a hamstring injury supposed to be close to coming back. Well, they said he suffered a setback on Sunday. Is this affecting how you view him in drafts right now? Like the late round shot on Paris Campbell? I wasn't taking the late round shot in redraft. I just don't like drafting rookie wide receivers unless it's something crazy like the San Francisco situation. But it's unfortunate, especially for...

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for Dynasty if you were counting on him early. We'll get through the rest of this real quick. Anthony Miller suffered a sprained ankle. He also apparently tweeted he's fine twice and deleted it twice. So I don't know what that means. What? I don't know if he wanted to protect his ADP. I have no idea. Well, sometimes you wake up and you're feeling all right.

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It's like I'm fine. Look, and the first thing, a lot of us, the first thing we do, we grab the phone. All right. Catching up. Is there any news? No. Oh, I feel all right. Puts it down. Then he tries to stand up. And he goes, better delete that tweet. But it's the second time around that's really confusing. Well, look. Because then later he's like, no, I am fine. It looks like I am. The first thing you do after you get out of bed, well, the majority of people I assume, we go to the bathroom.

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Maybe he was sitting there. Oh, I feel great again. And then he re-stood up and, oh, I got to delete it again. Mike hasn't figured out, Jason. Mike has seen the morning that he had. I'm just saying I understand. A couple more things. Antonio Calloway, wide receiver for the Browns, has been suspended four games for substance abuse policy. And he's hurt. And he's banged up. Rashad Higgins. Any interest? No. Because I didn't really have Antonio Calloway.

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Interest. I don't need the third wide receiver on that team. Okay. Theo Riddick will miss 6 to 8 weeks fractured his shoulder during the preseason game. Devante Booker lives. Yeah, he does.

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And then the Saints have released this guy. His name is Richard Matthews. Why are we bringing up Richard Matthews on this podcast? We're only bringing it up. We can move along. Because on the 18th of June, Jason, you and I made a water bet. Why do we do shows so early? We make these stupid bets in April through June. You said he'd make the roster? I did.

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And now you're going to spin the wheel. All right. I'll spin the wheel. Congratulations. You really got me with that Richard Matthews. Hey, we've been bantering about Richard Matthews for a couple of years. I've been trying to tell you. He was done, but she didn't want to believe it. And then a couple of hype pieces. Chris Carson, we'll catch the ball a lot more. This is the sound bit from Pete Carroll. Okay, we'll see what happens. He said he has the best hands on the team.

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That's what Carol said. He said he could be a hand model. Did he have, like George Costanza. Did he have those hands last year? Same ones. Same hands? Didn't throw to him, though. He didn't, we're not, this is not a Frankenstein where he got him replaced? No Swippy Swappy. Oh, okay. By the way, Jerry Jones believes Tony Pollard could carry the load in Dallas. This is the same Jerry Jones that said Tavon Austin would rule the world last year. Jerry Jones is just, just run and roughhouse on Zeke right now.

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A little bit of hype this morning, Dan Campbell, aka Guns Mahoney. Guns Mahoney's back. From days past, that's the Saints' tight-in coach, said it's pretty easy to see the impact Jared Cook has had during training camp. Some hype around him, quote, starring in training camp. Like a movie? I think he's got a great opportunity with Drew Brees. Do you care about this hype? I think Jason does because he's writing his name down. I think that's an up arrow.

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Jason has been so hesitant. I have been hesitant because we've seen tight ends come here and fail. We know what you're talking about, Jason. It is very Kobe Fleener related. Well, it's Kobe Fleener. It's the second time around with Ben Watson. But the first time around with Ben Watson was successful, it's really, it's a crapshoot, I think. I don't think it's a guarantee that Jared Cook is heavily utilized in this office. This is not the old school saints that had a crazy pass volume. They are a rush.

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first team now, even though they have Drew Brees and Michael Thomas. But if it does land that way, I mean, you have to keep your eyes open to the possibility. There's plenty of tight ends who later in their career, you know, they switch teams or something at Delaney Walker, even Greg Olson, you know, he was a bear. He was a bear. Yeah, he was a Chicago bear. And so if Jared Cook switches teams, he's not that old for a tight end. I think he's 30. He could still make some noises here.

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