Fantasy Football - Players to Forgive + Eat Your Fantasy Veggies! - Podcast for 5/6

Also, though, for some context, he played the team with the first pick. The, what is it, the Giants were third for the Patriots, the fourth pick. Jacksonville was the fifth pick. They played basically the fifth, the worst teams in the league. And he was the one giving them those high picks in the draft. They were done as well. Yeah. And so that was, you know, the quarterback situation last year went to crap for Indianapolis. I'm with you, Jay. When you pull up those numbers, they're against Tennessee, 29 for 218. He did do that, but you have to factor the context in at least a little bit. This is not him dominating, you know, top half defenses at the very beginning of the season. Yeah, if you're talking about like, you know, the, the, the, the breakway runs, that's not easy to project. But the, the opportunities at the end of the year, that's what I loved seeing. And I think whichever quarterback it is, they're still going to put Jonathan Taylor in there, you know,

25 carries, 22 carries, 29 carries, 32, 34. Like this team- It's a pace of 482 attempts, which- That's- Outlandish couldn't happen, but the point- What's the highest? Kyle, what's the highest rushing attempts ever in a season? Is it the team and the coaching staff? Like, that hasn't changed. He will be like the guy in the backfield, barring injury. They did lose, I believe- two of their more experienced offensive line starters. Ryan Kelly, I think Will Freeze also left. But yeah, I mean, what is the potential for those seasons? It was 2021 when he was the RB1. He showed you in that stretch what he can do with volume. I don't know, probably a 5% chance that he could beat those three guys for me. But the fact that he, but his chance to be an RB1 is probably 75%. Yeah, I think it's still strong.

Bijon Gibbs Sequin level. I just don't like the team that much. I like Jonathan Taylor. I don't like Daniel Jones. Jonathan Taylor is amazing. The issues, you know, I'm talking about, but the, you know, the reality that you have to look at with Jonathan Taylor is you could see a Sequan Barkley-like season last year where he didn't catch a lot of passes and he was the running back one. But the difference is he was on an offense that scored an obscene amount of touchdowns and you can't project that for the Colts and you can't project him to have a ton of.

receptions like Bijon and Gibbs. So really, I think the most likely outcome is that he's going to be an awesome player getting a ton of opportunity and not scoring enough touchdowns are catching the ball enough to be top three style running back. But he has the talent to be in the tier with these other guys. The funny thing about Sequin, and maybe we've never said it like this, but was he a better player last year than he was the years before? Nope. Was he more talented? No. No. Did he have same? That's the amazing thing about the Sequin Barkley season.

is that this is the this is sayquan berkeley it was a change of scenery yeah is a change in situation is that show you how bad d'andre swift is yes yeah because he had this offense he had this team he had that offensive line he looked and he looked pretty good he looked pretty good all for a lot of those games man he made some money thanks thank you he should write like an affiliate check to the entire offensive line of philadelphia the uh larry johnson I remember it had the most. I remember it. Grandma, ma. No, I'm just kidding. Played for the Charlotte Hornets. So, well, I guess we've only had five players over 400 attempts. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I remember the Larry Johnson season, 2006. That had to.

That was that right before it just all fell. I don't know. Come on, Shane. I don't know. Give him the ball. On the 416, on the 416 carry, all his, his legs just fell off. It was. It was after his legs. All of them. Wow. Four 16. That was the last big year for Larry. Everything just broke down after that. Come on, Stuyken. Don't be a coward. All right. It's so wild though. Beck, you know, what was 2021 for for JT? Jonathan Taylor at the top. was so short-lived. He was definitely the dynasty RB1 at that moment in time. He had 383 carries that year and he followed up with two injury-riddled seasons. So that's what's going to happen. That's what happens when you give players that much work. Unless they're named Derek Henry. Wild. Tapubs on Instagram, can the Chargers win the AFC? Absolutely. Not. Absolutely not. You think absolutely not?

Correct. I believe the charters... The entire AFC? The entire AFC West? I mean, obviously right now you've got the KFC. You've got the Ravens, the Bills, and the Chiefs clearly ahead of them. According to sports books, you've got the Bengals a little bit ahead as well. And the Broncos. And they're right there with the Broncos. But to me, the Chargers talent-wise, roster-wise, coaching-wise, quarterback, I don't see any reason they cannot compete with every single one of those teams that I'm going to write my odds down. on the board what does that mean i'm just showing you their odds of their odds of winning the afc are zero percent okay so tell me why i i'm not i don't agree with mike tell me tell me why you think that they have a zero percent chance of winning the afc uh well number one patrick mahomes is in there and so is josh allen and it's just so is lamar jackson and so is joe burrow and then and then factoring in just how overall

the unit of the Denver Broncos, like as a team, because I'm not like, oh, Bo Nix is, I think Bo Nix is going to be a good quarterback and take another step. I just, I don't think that, I don't think the Chargers with the current team. So is this more about the other teams? Yes, 100%. I'm not saying the Chargers are bad. I have tried, I'm on a 10-year run wanting to pick the Chargers to win the ding. AFC, the whole thing, I'm giving up. Yeah. It's a weird time to give up. I don't know how he's going to get through those four quarterbacks. I'm not, I'm not disgracing your team. Let me put it. The other ones are a little bit better. The Chargers could win the most games in the AFC this year. That could happen. They can't, I don't think they can win in the playoffs against those four quarterbacks. Well, that's not. Yeah, I mean, but the question is.

Who wins the most games in regular season, right? No, is who wins the AFC? That would mean that go to the Super Bowl. Yeah, that is what that means. Oh, that's funny. I was interpreting this completely as... Oh, backtracked! No, no, as like they are the number one seed in the AFC. That's not backtracked, because I definitely think they could come out of the AFC as well. I think they could beat those teams. With Harbaugh, they are a different team. They are... The playoffs, me, the playoffs. They're going to have a great running game with Amarian Hampton and Najee. I still think they need a whiteout. Oh, that's because you don't love. I do love Latman. No, I'm talking about Trey Harris. Trey Harris is not the key to them winning the AFC. Yeah. Famous last words. What's your percentage? Let's see how bold you are. I'll put my back down. Mike said zero. Well, then I'll do it again. I'm coming out of the.

Of winning the AFC. Do we have to say it like the number one, the team that goes to the Super Bowl. Yeah. Holy balls, dude. What? 18%. Wow. 18%. I do need to go back to chargers. Yeah. That's a really high number. I had written 8% down. We were very close. I just had a little line. Um, also new expression, Mike. You unlocked the new expression. All right, G Marshall 27 on Instagram. Have you ever made a trade with your biggest rivals? Oh, yeah. I mean, that's Andy is my biggest rival because we were in division. Yeah, how's it feel now? Totally different, right? It feels totally different to not be in your division. We used to be for 10 years or more, probably probably what, like 13 years? Division rivals. Yeah. And when we made trades, they always worked out perfectly for you. Oh, man. All I know is I, we get asked.

questions all the time like oh what's the best trade you've ever made oh what's the worst trade you've ever made and and it's hard to remember and i will never be able to forget the trade i didn't take from andy oh i forgot i thought you go back to oh my goodness it's the worst whiff of all time i mean i i Right in the middle, two years ago. Sequin Barclay for Echler and a couple firsts? Yes, basically the highest draft picks that we can trade in our Keeper League. He had two of them. He offered two of them plus Sequin Barclay. Who became the running back one for Austin Echler, who at the time was on fire. He was doing great. His playoff schedule was great. I was trying to repeat as the champion of the League of Record. And I just decided, no, that's a lot of value is good. You talked about it.

We, me and my co-manager, we went shut the door, we talked through it. We looked at the schedule. We dove deep and we made a mistake because, oh my goodness, if last year I could have had, um, instead of Echler, Barkley, plus two of the best picks in the draft. You know it'd have been better for you. Yeah, I think so. Kyle does want you to know, Jason, the, the books, 18% that's where the chiefs are. Okay. So I don't, I think- It's okay to have a hot take, man. I like the Chargers. I genuinely think it is a complete toss-up for who wins that division. Like a coin flip. I see them in the Chargers, and I'll put the Broncos in there too. Those three teams, I mean, I think I legitimately might go Chargers Chiefs Broncos. But I think they're in the same tier. It should be very interesting to see, like last year was defined by these Chiefs games that they just had no business winning.

Over and over and over. Oh, my gosh, that was the worst. And we got another year older for Travis Kelsey. I think it'll be very interesting in that division. I worry about the playoffs. But if they had home field, somehow, maybe they get it done. So, yeah, in terms of trading with your biggest rival, yeah, Jason and I for many years, I would say that Mike and I have made very few trades historically. But I've traded with everybody. Yeah, I don't think that any of us are like. Is there anybody in any of our leagues? You're like, no way? No, there are people there are people in the, oh. Don't do that to me on the air. All right, all right. But no, I don't, I don't have anybody like that. It doesn't matter the team. If they have players that I want or I need and we're compatible for a trade, then it's fine, make a trade. All right, we'll take a break and we've got a blast from the past question coming up.

All right, back into the mailbag. And for those of you that have been listening to this podcast for quite some time, it's time to go back in history. I'm seeing a picture of the Big Salad shirt. And the question is, Sean Drone. The question is, who are this year's fantasy vegetables? And I do have a very quick to mind answer. I have two very quick to mind answers. One wide receiver, one running back. Yeah, I got a running back. Look, Big Salad. That was Sean Drone's name. It was just, we made the point that sometimes. You just got to eat your greens. You need that tried and true nutritious player that just gets the job done. It's not flashy. It doesn't taste great, but they do the work. And that is Brian Robinson. Oh, that's a great. Ryan Robinson is the big salad. That is a great answer. Who do you got? I have at running back, Chuba Hubbard. That's, that was very big salad. I still don't really want to draft him. I'm not excited, but he's way better than.

He, then we think he is. Like he's very good. And then Darnell Mooney. He is. Oh, yeah. You don't have great upside and he's going to be drafted low because when you look at do I want Darnell Mooney who's a two or another player that, oh, this guy could be a boat. You know, you always try to take the boat. But Darnell Mooney is just going to go out there and get it done on a week by week basis. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good one. You got anybody, Mike, that you know. Chuba was going to be my answer. Okay, here's a Broncos question from Anderson Love. Outlook on Broncos wide receiver Marvin Mims after the draft. It looks on paper like Cortland Sutton is obviously there. And then there's Marvin Mims who got involved late in this season. You got Velae. You've got Troy Franklin still there. You drafted Pat Bryant. You've got Evan Ingram in the equation now. Let's not forget Evan Ingram. So Marvin Mims, are we? The.

Though the Marvin Mims experience of just over and over verbally, us hearing from Sean Peyton that I got to figure out how to get Marvin Mims on the field. We've had two years of that being said for him to average 27% of offensive snaps. Yeah, he was healthy this year. He played all 17 games. And he can hit a big play on. any given game, but I feel like now we're being two years into it. The snaps actually went down from his rookie season to a sophomore season, and the fact that they added a third round wide receiver and Pat Bryant, I would say he is a, he can help the football team, but for fantasy football, he is, you're putting him into your DFS lineup and hoping that's the week that he goes. Two catches.

for a hundred yards and two touchdowns it is absolutely foolish to believe after the amount of games we have seen him used and you know that he would take a massive step up to fantasy relevance and and again i think marvin mims is a very good player and just like mike said will help the team he plays on special teams he's a good returner he can come in on a package and just like you know fly down the field but i don't see them changing what they've done for two years with him All right. And you've got Troy Franklin there who's going to step up any minute. Instagram question from Taylor Stewart. Which team had the most disappointing draft from a fantasy football perspective? That's a good question. Cowboys probably. Dallas, no day to one. Offensive weapons. Yeah, we didn't get the wide receiver we were hoping for and you didn't get a running back with draft capital. Not like Jaden Blue is.

The Cowboys are going to be fascinating when you're trying to figure out who are you going to draft here because it's Giovante and Miles Sanders. It is just a conglomeration of underperforming guys on that team who are making very, very little money. And then you got Jaden Blue. I think it was a fifth round pick, but he's a smaller. He's a smaller guy. So it's, I have no idea who to draft from that team. But I know that someone on that squad will have like running back twoish value. Well, and the the sad part is, you know, sometimes when a team does not draft the high draft capital running back that they were maybe projected to, it's really good. You're like, whew, good. My veteran escaped. But like you're not even excited about Javante there. So Brian Robinson.

you know you i i like the fact that the commanders didn't take a running back when they were you know that could have been a big threat and it's like oh well there's a winner i don't view javanti as like like he won but i don't view him as a winner at all but we lost yeah and it's like so any conversations for javanti in fantasy lions which will now be necessary we lose and it's the the the check marks for javanti are He is the projected starter right now because he's making the most money. But it's not by a wide margin over Miles Sanders. It didn't pay him a lot. And it's, I watched, I watched both of these guys play last year and they were both extremely disappointing. But I feel like Miles was not as disappointing as Javante. You know who I was disappointed in? It was Denver. Because.

It's not that I can't get excited for RJ Harvey to potentially be valuable. It's just that I don't. That is all coming from Sean Payton. That is not coming from, you know, our pre-draft player evaluation excitement the way we were for Hampton or for Henderson. Yeah, it was a reach based off of mocks. It was them falling in love with a guy. And I just, it's just such a good opportunity. They were sitting there with Henderson and Hampton. available to be picked. And that was, you know, that was the dream spot for everyone. Oh, with their first rounder? Yeah, was go to Denver and they had the chance and they bypassed. So I completely agree. They were even more than the Cowboys, they disappointed me. You know, they came back and tried to make good by taking, you know, RJ Harvey with good draft capital. But it's weird because I really wanted one of those guys. There was not a running back home run spot.

Because the only one that you can point to and say, I think that is, is Hampton with the Chargers. But even that... I think the Gentie spots a home run. Oh, okay. You know what's funny? Based off of... He's not a rookie. Yeah, it's like... He's been in the year for the league for four years. It's like Gentie, the Lock. I'm sorry. Absolutely Gentile. But of all the other destinations that we thought were home runs, Dallas, Denver, Chicago, even the Chargers, like the Charger, it will be a home run. But I don't know if it is in year one. like a yeah that's fair it might be it is funny the the the fact that gentie will not come up in many conversations like when when you're having conversations of who's the rookie running back that's going to do great this year like just avoid the name because he doesn't count no it does i mean where's his is the adp going to be four gentie yeah pretty close and who doesn't want to take him i i have gone through and uh i have statted out the raiders and hoo-ha i want to take him

Let me guess your talk. Can I, can I make a guess on total yardage? Oh, my goodness. Total, come on. Total scrimmage yards? Sure. 1550. You would be short. I have them at 1653. Wow, man. 1232 on the ground. We got some gentee fans nodding in the air. It's hard to not project that. It is hard because of the passing work. When you look at the, you know, the expected. pace, the Chip Kelly offense, what we've seen Gino Smith throw total. And then you just say, hold on, hold on. The Falcon inducers Ellie has a projection for his total yardage. What do you have him down for, Mr. Guy who drafted him in his rookie draft? Yeah, uh, 2300. 2300 yards. So at least 1,000 thousand thousand. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. 20 touchdowns. Wow. That's pretty good on the Raiders.

Ashton Gentie is going to finish as the running back two and people are going to be furious. Man, it's just, how does he feel? He's not in shape. Oh, he's in shape. Oh, no. No, no, no, no. I'm just checking that one off. Oh, yeah. You can't fail that way anymore. Yeah. If he stopped working out from now until kickoff, I think he, I don't think he could. He can't get out of shape that fast. You don't think he could dodge it? Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Sorry. In football, we call that an Eddie Lacey. Yes, yes, yes. Man, where are we? More questions? Here we go. YouTube, Eric, who finishes higher this year in fantasy? Mahomes or Lawrence? Lawrence will have Travis Hunter and Brian Thomas. Mahomes will get Rashi Rice back. Worthy, Hollywood, Kelsey.

I think it's going to be close. I haven't done my projections yet, but I bet you these guys are like 11 and 12. I've got a decent gap between Lawrence and Mahomes. Which direction? Mahomes on top. Still, we've got to just still believe. I mean, he's not a top five quarterback to me. Mahomes is not. But maybe it's more an indictment against Lawrence than it is. Mahomes is the quarterback 11 last year. I think that's about, I mean, I haven't finished the whole league, so I don't know where he will land, but I have my homes behind to Bo Nix. Well, let's wrap this up then with this follow-up from YouTube. Malachi writes, and are we scared to drown for Rashi Rice as a wide receiver 2? Because those things are connected. And I am a little bit nervous about that. So I am very much not at all nervous about Rashi Rice when he's on the field. The only question of drafting him and where his risk will be.

is about whether a possible suspension comes this year. I think by the time draft season is upon us, we'll have a little bit more clear expectation of the timeline because there's rumors that this suspension could be pushed another year. We still assume it is coming. And so obviously, this isn't an injury risk. This is just he can't help you when he can't play football. And there will be risk there. You have no, like, distribution of target. like concerns because I last year when he was he was killing it there worthy wasn't established in Hollywood was hurt so to me it's like so this is an under 4,000 yard team I guess I'm just like not quite I looked through the first three games and actually what what what was really telling um and granted obviously worthy was a rookie and and Hollywood was not there yes however it was really Travis Kelsey who took the hit Travis Kelsey was down at like

14% target share during those first three weeks of the season when he should be, you know, at his best, Rushie Rice dominated in the target market share. And it was, it was, it was the same area of the field that Kelsey is usually working. So that's to me, when I, when I started this out, like Kelsey has a pretty big fall from fantasy, you know, superstar status in this year's rankings. I think this is the year where I've got him going. to a very difficult to swallow 15% target share. Travis Kelsey has never been, I mean, he was still 26% last year. But when you look at the games when Rushy Rice was healthy, he was not as involved. He's older. And then you bring in Worthy and Hollywood back. Patrick Mahomes has never had multiple top 50 wide receivers. Because of Travis Kelsey. Worthy and Rashi Rice will be drafted.

way higher than top 50. They'll both. Oh, yeah. Right now they're in the wide receiver 20 range. I mean, that's just going to be a push comes to shove situation for them. So essentially, I think what I think we're working through here is someone is going to take a tumble. Right. And it could be, I have it being Kelsey. You have it being Rice as. I just think Rice is probably around a wide receiver 20, 25 guy. Sure. But that is to be determined. moving rapidly towards just projecting rice to it's a to dominate it's a or no I'm just being games played like I think he he's looking healthy I'm not that worried about the suspension I'm that saying like the I just want to know what I got both health and suspension I think will be not concerns of this year if they sorry it is just then it's what do you believe about the player but to have all those things of like how many games is it going to miss up in the air that

that changes everything. But if you're approaching the season, like he's going to be there day one, then now what do you think of the player? Do you think the team is lying when they say they want to throw the ball again down the field? Because to me, obviously Hollywood and Worthy are very, they're made for that. Obviously, you need the underneath stuff. You need everything else. But I guess I'm curious how you project worthy relative to Rashi Rice. I would. I haven't projected them out, but the way that it's working in my head is a hit will go to Worthy. Like Rashid Rice will get his place in the offense back where he operates because I think he's better at it doing that than what Worthy is doing. And Worthy's got speed and can open things up and be a distraction. But I do believe them when they say that. I think they look at the last year's games where I think that they could be objectively honest and say, guys, we won a lot of games that we should not have won.

And going back to those games, we should not have been in a close game. We have to be able to put up 30 plus points on any given week if that's how we have to win. So I do believe it a little bit. Oh, yeah. Breaking news. Breaking news. Whoa. Justin Tucker has been released by the Ravens. Yeah. Yep. Seems like the right move. You did draft a kicker. Yep. Peace. Goodbye. Goodbye. The show's over. That is it for today's episode. You got a month, less than a month. The Ultimate Draft Kit, June 1st, available. Get it out of a pre-order price right now at Ultimate DraftKit.com. Goodbye. Goodbye. For listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast, join our fantasy football community on join thefoot.com. And follow us on Twitter at the FF ballers.