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target at best on his team behind Antonio Brown. But let's talk about Antonio Brown. We didn't even talk about that news yesterday. He limped off the practice. Because he was fine. But he had, I mean, that's a second time though. Yeah. And the last. He's Antonio. Last season. He ended the year injured. I mean, he's been a little bit banged up. So Juju's opportunity. I mean, everything changes if Antonio Brown misses a game. Yes. And he's on such a better offense than what we've seen from Chicago. I prefer juju over Alan Robinson.

Yeah, me, I do as well. 22? It's Tyreek Hill's new best friend. Sammy Watkins or Nemesis. They're on the same team, Mike. It's like you and Jason. Yeah. My nemesis. Oh, wait. Wait, what? I gave you so much. Well, actually, Jason. Jason was my only nemesis because we were the only ones in the verified club. But now you're a nemesis too, Mike. But Sammy at 22, Alshan at 23.

Jarvis at 24. I have sincerely buried Alshund. I'm surprised he stayed around our consensus rankings, Mike. I'm at 31. Clearly, with all the news of the pup concerns and everything, he's, I got to move him down. We've talked a lot about him already. So let's focus on talking through Watkins and Jarvis Landry. Watkins, I haven't at 21, Jason 22, Mike 24. We all buy into the potential breakout of Watkins.

We've got a my guy show next week. He may make an appearance. Oh, right? Isn't it Monday? Is that correct, Brooks? Yes, sir. Tune in. You got any my guys this year, Brooks, that you want to debut right now? Do you have anybody that you're like all in on? Sure. On the spot. Spotlights on. Jamal Williams. Okay. All right.

Packers running back. Great value. All right. We will never be going back to Brooks for his picks. I actually think that was a great pick. It is. Yeah. It's interesting. All you Aaron Jonesers. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. We are. But he's suspended. So I'm guessing Aaron Jones numbers week one and two are going to be pretty pissed poor. Yes. Great pick, Brooks. All right. So Sammy Watkins last year we talked about, we've talked about him before. He only had 70 targets.

He turned that into, you know, the only silver lining of last season was really the eight touchdowns, right? Only 39 receptions. He's no longer a Los Angeles ram. He heads to Kansas City on a big contract. It's all about rapport with Pat Mahomes, what he can do with Andy Reid. There's been reports of Sammy Watkins moving all around the offense. They want to use him more to his strengths.

But you need a step forward for Sammy Watkins. You can't have what you had last year and be happy. Well, the nice thing about his situation, right, is that he's not going to a new team where he's got to break in on the rapport of quarterback and wide receiver. Tyree Kill was there. But Tyree Kill did not have a report with Pat Mahomes. Even when Pat Mahomes got in in the final week of the season, Tyree Kill was sitting out that.

Pat played with the backups as he did in practice and through the year. So coming into training camp, something Sammy Watkins did not get last year. If you remember, he was traded right before, you know, in the preseason, you know, to the Rams. So now Sammy goes to the Chiefs and you have a full training camp where Pat Mahomes is figuring out who's his guy, Tyree Kill or Sammy Watkins.

Or both. Kelsey or both. And so, you know, I have Tyree Kill ahead in my rankings, I believe, but they are, if Sammy Watkins outproduces him, there's no, I mean, he could absolutely, Sammy Watkins ceiling is a clear cut wide receiver one. Like, if he becomes the primary target in that office, I think his talent.

could be a top 10 wide receiver. It's many moons ago, but in 2013, Sammy Watkins played 13 games and turned that into 60 receptions, almost 1,050 yards, and nine touchdowns. He was dominant for the second half of the season with Tyrod Taylor as his quarterback. Hey, Brooks, do you ever sit around and say things like, man, I'm so glad Andy exists? Do you ever think that? Almost every day. Almost every day.

You know, I'm sitting here right now as we talk about our last player on the show before our mailbag section. And I say to myself, thank goodness I exist. Thank goodness I exist because we wouldn't be talking about Jarvis Landry right now on this show if I didn't exist. That's a fair point. Trash rankings from my cohorts would have distorted the perception of Jarvis Landry so vastly that he wouldn't have been talked about even if this show went on another hour. Jarvis comes into 24 in our consensus, but Jason has him at 38.

I've got him at 14. That is a monstrous gap. That is the type of gap in which we often hold court over. And Mike, you got him at 31. I'm not proud of you either. I will say this. I wanted to see another week, another preseason week of Jarvis Landry before I made any massive altercations. I've been very... Isn't his entire career enough?

No, no, it's not for what I still perceived to be a lower volume passing offense with Taylor as the quarterback, at least for the beginning portion of the season. But the way they were utilizing him, it was a very short sample size, of course. And there's no Josh Gordon right now. Of course. So all of those things will factor in. I do have him at 31, but he's going to move up in my projections. I'm doing a bit of overhauling.

Today? I am all in on Jarvis Landry. I am not all in. I am just rising. I believe it's going to be a very similar scenario in Cleveland that it was in Miami. He's going to soak up targets like a sponge. And so do I think he's going to finish the seventh best like he did last year? No. But I put him exactly where he was in 2015 and 16, which is basically just not giving him the nine touchdowns and saying,

He was the 13th best. He was the 14th best. I just don't understand how Jarvis Landry is too talented to finish outside the top 20. It's an impossibility. Yeah, I don't think it's an impossibility based on touchdowns and offense. If Cleveland is not a quality offense and they're not scoring a lot of points.

and Jarvis ends up with three touchdowns, then that could happen. What we're seeing right now is no Josh Gordon and preseason football plus hard knocks. You know, you'll get that hard knocks heart bump when you watch. And I will admit I have Jarvis Landry probably too low right now. But I'm, you know, I have to hold off for a little bit. And it's, it's really hard to watch the preseason games and see that Jarvis Landry is the clear cut.

number one and not think that's what's going to have it. But who's, you know, what's going to change when Josh Gordon is actually there? So, you know, I have them with 124 targets, not a bad number. I just don't have them scoring a lot of touchdowns. I think that's the largest difference in the ranking. Do you consider the dolphins to have been the, uh,

The offense of, I mean, you said the scenario where the Browns aren't a very good offense. The Dolphins have not been a good offense in the last three years. But the Dolphins also threw to the wide receiver a higher percentage of their passes than any other team. 66% of their passes last year went to the wide receiver position. Meanwhile, Cleveland last year was at 52%. That's a large amount of target. Cleveland's entire office has reworked. I'm going, it's entirely different. It's Todd Haley.

And a new quarterback and new pieces. And in my opinion, a lower volume quarterback because he runs, he will. He doesn't talk as loud. That doesn't bother me. But it's the fact that he. That was the lower volume. Oh, I got you. I thought there was something I missed on Hard Knocks. But as Hugh Jackson was quick to point out from his seat at the head of the table, this is Hugh Jackson's team. And he will run it how Hugh Jackson sees fit.

And he is going to bump heads with Todd Haley. We'll see who wins out. I don't think that the dolphins are, you know, were a better offense last year than the Browns will be this year necessarily. But it is about just the target share. You know, 27% of the targets went to Jarvis Landry. Will that happen here with Duke Johnson and Josh Gordon and, you know, legitimate weapons? It might. It might. Yeah. I've got him at 25% target share this year. It's not too far off.

And I'm just making for an entertaining debate here. I understand that there are risks. I have chosen now over the course of the offseason to completely disintegrate them and believe in the talent and ability of Jarvis Landry. I think you're going to see, I think you're going to see the same thing from him. Let's jump into the mailbag. Mailbag. Mailbag. If you have a question for the fantasy footballers, go to the website, the fancy footballers.com.

Click to submit a question button or dial our voicemail hotline 302-464 TFFB. Going to jump into a voicemail to kick it off. Hey, ballers. This is Daniel from Arkansas. First of all, congratulations to Mike for no longer being a man of the people. A quick question for you, is it ever okay to draft a player that you don't like with the sole purpose of trading him away? Thanks, Mike. Wow, he got that question in this morning. Yeah. Way to be current.

And I will say, unless I am looking my opponent in the eye saying, I'm going to draft this player and trade him immediately to you, do we have a deal? A full handshake agreement, then no, I am.

I am not going to do this and hope that I can trade that player. No, never. You know, there's so, there's, I think that when you start in fantasy, you're always tempted to do that. I'm going to draft these three quarterbacks because people are dumb and then I'll trade one of them or I'm going to hoard the defenses. Or this guy loves the chargers. I'm going to draft Keenan Allen and then he'll pay up for him. Build your best team. Build the.

team that you think is best, not the team that you think someone else thinks would be great. I agree with that mostly, but I actually think this applies fine in the first couple rounds. If there's a player with such prominent value and you just don't like him, I still think you take Zeke. You might not like Zeke. I still think you can take him at that value and then flip him.

that's the situation. In the first or second round, you might not like him as much. You're like a tier break at least the last one in that tier? I'm all aboard what you guys are saying. If it's like the seventh round and you're like, I'm just going to draft Packers because I'm in, you know, Wisconsin. So I'm going to draft all the Packers and trade them all the way. That's stupid. You're not building your team. But if you're sitting there at a tier break, I do see a scenario where I'm going, boy, the value of a player like Zeke in this league.

over dropping it maybe it's camara right like you're like man zeke has twice the trade value in this league than camara maybe i take him because you're not in it you're not hurting yourself you can still play that player you just don't like him yeah i just don't think in the early rounds i don't think if the trades fall through you still got a great player i don't know that there's a i guess it depends on what you're saying like means i think i think it's a matter of saying like you just don't want that guy in your team but he's still going to produce

I don't really like Zeke, like everybody else, like Zeke, but I see the value of drafting him. And when I'm sitting at the top of our Keeper League draft, there's part of me that says, I need to take him because... There's part of you to understand that Zeke is the better pick. That's what you think? Yes, because he'll be the better fantasy player. It's in there. It's in there somewhere. It's in the back of the mind. You're smart guy. David and New Orleans. In a full PPR, Jordan Howard for a 14th or Adam Thielen for a ninth? Who would you rather...

Keep. Hmm. It's a full PPR. Feeling for a ninth or Howard for a 14th, I am taking Howard. PPR. Yeah, that means point per reception. Yeah, which is not Jordan Howard's strength and is Adam Thielen strength, but at the 14th round to get a solid running back, look, you're not going to go wrong here. I mean, I would love to keep either one of them, but I lean Jordan Howard as well. Yeah, I'll take Howard.

All right. Let's jump into another voicemail. Hey, fantasy football. This is Logan from New York. I just want to say I love the show. And I got a quick question about league depth versus bench size, more or less bench spots when you add more or less people in the league in order to make the waiver wire more competitive debating between a 10 and 12-man league and 5 to 6 bench spots plus an eye on. Yeah, I love to hear your input on that. Thanks. Yeah, I mean.