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of 10, meaning his quarterbacks sucked. That's just making it as easy as possible. That's your verified opinion? That, yes, is this my verified opinion that the targets were there, the quarterbacks were bad. Demarius Thomas is not the same player that he has been throughout his career. He is aging. He is not as dominant athletically, but he's a contested catch beast. He is,

figuring out how to play in the NFL with this aged wide receiver body, even though he's not ancient in terms of a wide receiver age. Do you believe that Cortland Sutton can threaten the value of Demarius Thomas this year, wide receiver rookie for the Bronco? I do think so. He's been on the field as a starter in training camp and, you know, in three wide, he's on the field. Demarius Thomas, if you compare his game speed from 2016.

to 2017, there's a noticeable dip for him when, you know, so as he's getting older, he is slowing down. I agree completely. He, he can box a guy out and contested catch the heck out of a ton of targets. So I'm not like anti-Demarius Thomas. No, that's why he's at 16. I do think, you know, when we bring up the names like Trevor Simeon and Brock Oswald, like, oh,

Garbage. Third string quarterback, Paxton Lynch. Yes. But when we bring those names up. He's really bad. He's bad. John Elway made a mistake with Paxton Lynch. John Elway's made a lot of mistakes. Yes. But he's also made some really good calls. So you take the good with the bad. Peyton. He got Peyton Mayer. Yeah. But my point is this. When you say those names, it taints the, it taints the picture that it's 100% on them because they're terrible. But you forget.

Those were the same quarterbacks he played with the year before when he was fine. Trevor Simeon. But so was Sanders. And Sanders is one of those guys where... But Sanders was super injured all last year. My point is simply the top two wide receivers for the Denver Broncos were both historically great. Marius Thomas was coming off of five straight seasons of 90 receptions, a thousand plus yards. Emmanuel Sanders has been an absolute monster. And both of them still got targets, but were...

were very, very inefficient. Yeah, I'm glad you bring up Sanders because if I'm looking at a Denver Broncos wide receiver to own, I would rather have Sanders in the seven. That's fair. To pair with, you know, instead of Demarius Thomas, the guy he's going right next to is Mari Cooper. Give me a Mari Cooper and Emmanuel Sanders, as opposed to Demarius Thomas and Marquis Goodwin, who's going right next to Emmanuel Sanders. All right, 17 is Marvin Jones, wide receiver for the Detroit Lions last year, a banner year for Marvin Jones.

I believe number nine in fantasy finish. A very consistent year, 50% of his games as a wide receiver one or two. However, when I've been asked this question of a player that you might regret drafting this year, I've been answering Marvin Jones. His season was littered with long jump ball touchdowns from Matthew Stafford. He was super efficient. He had nine touchdowns on how many catches? 61 catches.

I check this out. Check this out. 94% of wide receiver ones over the last 10 years have needed at least 110 targets to finish in that top 12. He only had 107 targets last year. I don't think that Kenny Goliday is the greatest thing that's ever happened to Detroit, but he is going to be back in the mix. Marvin Jones's totals, his catch totals, are in that Alshan Jeffrey-esque type 60 receptions. He has to have nine touchdowns to be great, and I don't want to draft him.

and expect him to repeat last year's banner year. I think that was the ceiling from Marvin Jones, therefore I'm going another direction. Yeah, and not only touchdowns. We've talked a lot about the touchdown regression in the sense that, you know, you look back at the last couple years. He's had over 100 targets, 103, 103, 107, and the touchdown just went 4-49. That's great. But also look at the yards per reception. He led the 18 yards a reception. That's an outlier season. You don't.

Players don't just continually average 18 yards of reception unless they're in the Hall of Fame. You know, his career average is 14 yards of reception. And, you know, he came down with the long balls last year. And I don't want to take anything away from him. He has been tearing up camp. Like the beat reporters are saying Marvin Jones is torching people and looks great. So is there a chance he's just upgraded? He's leveled up and he's now the go-to.

guy for Stafford. I mean, we love Stafford here. I think Marvin Jones is fine. I just, I don't expect him to finish the season the way he finished it last year. I mean, I have him ranked at 20. I have Golden Tate ahead of him. So I don't think that that's a common opinion necessarily to have Golden Tate ahead. You guys both have Marvin Jones just ahead of Tate. Golden Tate is going around ahead on fantasy football. Okay. So then you guys are more in the Jones camp?

I just see them so close. Yeah, I see them back to back, essentially. When I look at these guys, I can flip a coin, so I'll always take the guy around later if that's the situation. If it's heads-up lines, I'll take Marvin Jones. Well, it is heads-up lion. Number 18 is Golden Tate. Yep, I'll take Marvin Jones. So last year, 122 targets for Golden Tate led the league in yards. He's a yak master, 613 of them. 92 receptions, 1,000 yards, 5 touchdowns.

The Lions, you know, they have a scheduled open the year that seems pretty favorable to me. Golden Tate is going around ahead, however, so yeah, that's tough. That's a tough decision between those two guys. It's kind of who Matthew Stafford locks in on any given week and who can pull in the touchdowns. Tate's not generally going to give you a monster week. He does not boom. He does not boom. Yeah.

But he's very consistent. Like, would you feel comfortable with Golden Tate as your wide receiver, too? Yes, very. Two, yeah. He's never had a fantasy finish above 13, which, by the way, 13 was back in 2014. So the ceiling isn't there for Golden Tate, but as a possession receiver, you know, if you end up with him, if he bursts into seven or eight, nine touchdown somehow, you're going to have a monster here from Golden. Oh, yes. I'm not expecting him to get up to the eight touchdown, but he's a 90-plus reception guy.

he's he's very safe for for ppr at the least all right let's talk about tyreek the freak at number 19 tyreek hill kansas city chief's wide out breakout season last year finished the eighth best fantasy wide receiver average 78.9 receiving yards per game which was sixth most in the league and uh it was a great season for tyrie kill i think he met or exceeded expectations both for fancy owners i would say he exceeded them or

his head coach and that offense. So what do you guys see from Tyree Kale this year? I see a slight dip for him. I mean, last year you've got him and Travis Kelsey and Cream Hunt, you know, the trifecta of weapons. There wasn't really, you know, Albert Wilson or Chris Conley, like these guys weren't involved. These guys aren't getting in his way. And even with that situation,

You know, he only had 100 total targets. On that, he caught 71% of passes, which is, you know, a great number. But this year with Sammy Watkins in town, look, Tyree Kill can take any pass, a screen pass. He's so fast, so electric. He can take it to the house. And he will have those big games because of that. One takes one throw. Exactly. It takes one handoff even. But I think his target total will not.

rise. It could stay the same around 100, but what he did, his efficiency on those 100 targets is not going to be repeated year after year. I think that was the most efficient he will be on that amount of targets. So if he stays the same, he will dip on targets. If the target total goes down and the efficiency goes down, I think, you know, you could be really sad. When I look at the ADP on wide receivers, the one guy that...

I know I'm just never going to draft that where he's going is Tyree Kill. Keep trade cut. Tyree Kill, Jarvis Landry and Mari Cooper. I'm going to trade Cooper. I'm going to trade Tyree Kill based on his ADP. People still loving him. Perhaps you've heard of this character. Perhaps you've not. But in the cartoon anime world, there's a fellow named One Punch Man. Oh, you know I've heard of him. Tyree Kill is one touch man. Oh, because he just takes the one touch.

But those touches were not coming in the red zone. Four red zone targets this past year. Sammy Watkins, who was a red zone monster last year for the Rams, has been added to the team. Travis Kelsey, red zone monster. All of Tyree kills touchdowns came from 30 yards or further away because Alex Smith was elite, elite in the deep ball. Can Patrick Mahomes?

in his first year starting as quarterback equal those numbers or that efficiency that Alex Smith had this past season. That's why Tyree Kill is not a guy that I really want to draft, but at the same time, it's hard to doubt Tyree Kill after these first two seasons. Yeah. From a strategy perspective, I don't want to put Tyree Kill on my roster and then Marvin Jones on my roster together. Agreed. Like that's the kind of assembly that I don't.

I don't desire. I might win a week. You're baking a cake. Yeah. Oh, man. It's not dirty. No, it's not dirty. But you're just adding the same ingredient over and over. You can't have a cake of frosting and then put frosting on it. That's just frosting. Well, it's not a cake. That was a bad ingredient example because I think I'm down with it. All right. You've put salt.

Oh, you put salt on something. He said, you know what this salt needs? More salts. I agree. I agree. You know what that gives you a heart attack? That's right. Or freak out. Heart health, people. Take care of it. 20 and 21. 20 and 21 on our consensus wide receiver rankings. Juju Smith, Schuster, Alan Robinson. Jason, you have juju at 16. Mike?

You got Alan Robinson at 16. Yeah. Let's talk about the pros and cons of these two players as we marched down this list. One of them had 100% catch rate last year. My guy, Alan Robinson, had wide receiver 16. Caught all one of his targets. That went into your thought process. Yes. That's the analysis you get with this guy. It has been a couple of years since he's had a great season. Yes. He had the number six overall season with Bortles in 2015.

In 2016, it was a disappointment. He did play all 16 games, but he's the 25th best receiver. So I don't think people know what to expect or know whether to buy in on Alan Robinson with Mitch Riboskey in Chicago. Mitch Tribisky is the thing that scares me. I mean, more than Alan Robinson's health. Alan Robinson is healthy enough, and I think he's a good enough wide receiver. And we know that he's the number one wide receiver for the Bears. Those are all, I mean.

Those all are better than Juju, right? He's had a better season than Juju. He's the clear cut number one guy, but is Mitchell Trabisky good enough? And I have a hard time believing it. Many would say is Blake Bortles good enough? Sure. I mean, coming into the, but I would say yes. But coming into the off season, there was legitimate questions of will Blake Bortles actually be starting for the Jaguars in 2018?

I cannot confirm or deny that there was doubt relating Blake Borrell's being a starting quarterback. Yes. It wasn't just you. I know. I know, I mean, that's the pros and cons right there of Alan Robinson. Great wide receiver, the clear cut number one for a team that should take a step forward. Do you want the number one on last year's Rams, you know, that took that step forward when they changed to an offensive-minded coach? That's what's happening in Chicago. So will Trubisky do the Jared Gough step forward?

I lean... Do the golf. Do the golf. Do do the golf. So, I lean that... Everybody do the goff. That Trubisky will not take the same type of step forward. Goff to the left. Goff to the right. And Juju... Goffin out of sight. Oh, sorry, Jay. So goffery. Juju is the guy that if you haven't been listening the whole off season, I've been extremely high on him, but it's... It scares.

the living heck out of me because he went out in preseason week one and tried to give you some comfort he just went out and randy moss somebody and ran it down the sideline for 71 yard touchdown and took the rest of the game off it won't matter to me until he's doing it in the regular season because everything that i usually like this is a this is a heart overhead pick because i believe in juju i believe in the talent i like the Steelers but when i usually stack guys out and i'm looking at the math and the history and the numbers and all the all that

It says that Juju should regress this season. Yes. But. Is this right, Brooks, number one in the league in average yards per target? Yeah. 11.6 yards per target. That's the best out of 69 qualifying receivers. That is 917 yards on 79 targets. That's a perfect example of why he should be. And Juju has the talent to exceed and be a great fantasy wide receiver, but he's the third.