Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Rookie Rundown QB & WR, News, Mailbag

I'm in agreement with you. He was very impressive. He played about 45% of the team's snaps on the year. Now, that came more and more later in the year. We saw that he could do things with the ball, even though he was, you know, probably about... Spin it on his fingers. He played, you know, less snap percentage than Nelson Agalore did. By a lot, right? Right.

Well, about 45 to 58%. Oh, okay. So, you know, a good chunk. But he ended up with a lot more deep balls from Tana Hill, 400 and almost 500 yards on 23 receptions. That's really good. It shows that you've got that kind of one, that wide receiver won. So you've got a whole new crew coming in to Miami. And there's so many question marks here with...

to me with Jarvis Landry, with Devante Parker, with Ryan Tannehill. The potential to me is that Devante Parker could end up becoming a wide receiver one for the team and have huge blow-up potential. But there are so many questions. We had a big waterbed at the beginning of the year where I thought Devante Parker would end up as their highest fantasy producer. When I bring out my big 3D printer and I print myself a wide receiver, I print up a guy like Devante Parker. Wait, wait, wait.

You would hold out on us. We got a 3D printer. How do you think my fancy team's end up this one? So he's 6'3, 210 pounds. I mean, just build me that as a wide receiver. Tannehill threw the ball up to him several times where he went and made the play. And so I like guys that are built that way because whether it's Demarius Thomas, right, in the past that started slower in their rookie year, and kind of the talent transcends eventually, in my opinion. And speaking of Demarius Thomas,

Uh, Adam Gaze. Uh, the guy who turned Demarius Thomas into a superstar is here with Devante Parker. Over the final six games of the season, Parker averaged 74 yards a game. I mean, he, he really exploded at the end, the spotlights and everything. People stopped paying attention to the dolphins, but Parker was over there doing work. They're the exact same size, by the way. I didn't realize that. Him and Thomas? Demarius Thomas, yeah.

Thomas has him by about 20 pounds, but they're the same height. The problem for Parker last year was Richard Matthews. Matthews was actually playing capable wide receiver, so the coaching staff went with the veteran as opposed to the rookie, so Parker couldn't get out there and really show what he could do. And that's not going to happen this year. No, it will not. Think about the correlation. You talk about Adam Gase when he was with Denver between Demarius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders.

Right? And he really focused on those two wide receivers in that system, the big guy and then the possession guy. And now you've got Devante Parker. Big guy? And Jarvis Landry. Possession guy. I mean, Adam Gaye's coming in. So potential's there for his system to work. You two were the Hearns-Decker lovers. Why didn't you ever jump on the Rashad Matthews? I feel like he should have just been in the same category. Yeah. I feel like we were actually...

Pretty high on him. Didn't you and Richard Matthews and Dante Moncrief and Decker and them all go out for a meal one time or something? Yeah. Yeah, we all split the bill. Because that's what twos do. I was going to say you didn't just bill Brandon Marshall for the evening. All right. So who are we talking about now? Let's go ahead and let's discuss Aguilar. We've discussed him a little bit on the show. I believe the word you're looking for is not discussed, but disgusted.

We've disgusted Aguilar. We've discussed or discussed. Yeah, Andy and I disagree on this. I know Andy likes Nelson Aguilar. I do not. I love to mock his numbers. He finished just barely ahead of Kevin White and Breschard Perriman. Despite playing 58% of snaps on his team, which was the second highest for wide receivers. He got 23 catches on the year. So look, Nelson Aguilar. That's a really good grammar again. He got 23 catches. You're welcome.

It's the low blow. His stats are just dominating your face, so you're like, yeah, you can't speak properly. Well, look, my arguments are all projective of Aguilar. It's West Coast system. It's Doug Peterson coming in, implementing a system that is conducive to Aguilar and actually targeting the guy. So I can't argue, I can't go, yeah, 23 for 281 and one and some ugly, and some ugly drops. 283. No, thank you. I need those two extra yards.

If Sammy Biscuits is the quarterback next year, which I believe Sammy Biscuits will be the quarterback, if he is, he just doesn't have a good rapport with Nelson Aguilar. He doesn't have a good repertoire. Yeah, he doesn't trust the routes or whatever it is because he was on the field enough for the whole year.

to see whether or not they've got a connection. Look, look, you gotta throw some of that out, don't you, Chip Kelly's gone. Yes, a lot of it. He's a rookie who didn't get worked in. All right, so let's talk about comparison for next year. Let me pick somebody out since your comparison will be Brashad Perryman. So Aguilar, what did I say he'd do? Marvin Jones. Give me Marvin Jones's number. Okay, so Nelson Aguilar. Basically a three. Basically a four.

Three to four range. And they just has those bigger games. Yeah. Marvin Jones had about 800 yards, four touchdowns, 65 catches. Yeah. Give me, give me Marvin Jones's numbers. I will take Devin Funches's numbers. Ooh. Where he's all right. He can have a good game here or there. But. 470 yards. Yeah. So he'll double up. He'll double his production. So, okay. For your projections, though, you still have Jordan Matthews as the alpha. Yeah. Okay.

I do, despite the conversation where Jason didn't think I did. So let's go to a less biased source here. I don't know why we'd be, we're not biased. We'd just have different opinions. But Nelson Aguilar, Mike, he is, is he more like Devin Funchest to you, or is he more like Marvin Jones? He's more like a Marvin Jones to me. And I'm not. That's correct. I'm not, I would not consider myself an Aguilar guy at this point.

I think that with Doug Peterson coming in, I think that Jordan Matthews, I believe that they will use him kind of somewhat like Macklin. Man, it's the football season here yet. And I want to see this play out. We're almost there. Almost. Close. Hold. Hold. To fire until you see the whites of their eyes. There you go. But Al Gore, he'll be maybe an okay.

flex type of guy. I'm not... I'm not in on it. The 40 range would be. And I'm... This is full transparency here. When we were looking through this list, you're saying, well, this was draft order. I'm like, Al-Gallor was drafted in the first round? Yep. Oh, yeah, he was. Ugh. See, that's a huge, huge point in my favor. Well, he was drafted the first round by Chip Kelly. Hey!

No, he was projected in the first round by a lot of people. He was good at USC, guys. He was drafted. Well, USC is, they like to send wide receivers to the NFL and have them stink. That is absolutely true. It's happened again and again and again. It's going to. So then next up. I'm right in the middle of you guys. Here's a guy who. This one's full wild card. This one is full wild card. He had about the same.

Stats is Nelson Aguilar. Philip Dorset coming in to the vaunted Indianapolis Colts offense with Andrew Luck, who we just threw shade on earlier today, really was not used. He only played 19% of snaps on the season. He got hurt, too. We don't know what to make of Philip Dorset at all. He's a speedy guy that is not needed there. Now, I don't. He is absolutely needed.

Well, now with Andre Johnson going, I'm saying when they drafted him, it just didn't seem like. You're saying he wasn't needed. You're right. He wasn't. So this coming year, they obviously like Dante Moncrief. I believe the Colts are going to have him in. The real question is what they're going to do with Andre Johnson. Do they bring Andre Johnson back? No way. You got to.

You got to put him out to pasture. Cut the cord. Which is exactly why I'm afraid they're going to bring them back. To the woodshed, we go. Because that's the right thing to do is let him go. Exactly. They're making some mistakes there. Man, their GMs. I think they'll let him go. Why Dorset is a wild card for me is Moncrief. Dante Moncrief was successful, especially when Andrew Luck was the quarterback.

To me, I think Andrew Luck likes the comfort. He has a comfortability with Moncrief, and clearly it's there with Hilton. So where does Dorset fit into all of this? Not saying you can't have three successful receivers. If you're a high volume pass offense, we've seen that. Arizona. Michael Floyd, Larry Fitzgerald, John Brown. John Brown is a great comparison to Philip Dorset's involvement, not this past year before. That's ceiling. That's ceiling. No, the year before.

Right. Yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah. John Brown's rookie year. Yep. Sure. Dorset could absolutely be that, which is, that's a useful fantasy guy. He just is... Flip a coin. He's not going to be a reliable weekly guy. Yeah, to me, so there's a lot of... A little known fact, when you Google John Brown's name, there's a lot of John Browns in the world, including the abolitionist. There are going to be a lot of different upside flyer type picks that you make the end of the draft next year.

in the conversation will be Philip Dorset. For my teams, he won't be the guy that I'm drafting. Because what I'm looking for... Because you're looking for Rubin Randall. I'm looking for opportunity more than anything. Punch me right in the Randolph. And I think Philip Dorset's highest opportunity is going to be being the third wide receiver on the team. That's his... I believe that's his ceiling. Yeah, but for guys you're taking that far in the draft, you're looking for...

talent opportunity. It's not just immediate opportunity. Jason. It's the potential that Dante Moncrief goes down. Dorset comes in. He's a massively talented guy and he could thrive. He could explode. So that's why Aguilar or Derset. Next year. Aguilar or Derset? No, I don't like either of those guys. You have to take one. I don't have to hit the button. I would have to hit the button. I would have 100% it would be Nelson Aguilar. Because of opportunity. Here's the thing. Historically speaking, the number that matters

more than anything by a wide margin for wide receivers is targets. It's been proven year over year over year over year. Nelson Aguilar should have more targets next year than Philip Dorset just because of opportunity on the field. All right. Let's talk about some of these. We're good. These Devin Funchis, Ty Montgomery, Stefan Diggs. You glossed over Green Beckham. Tyler Lockett, Doreal Greenbeckham.

Who do you want to talk about first? I think we start with Green Beckham. Okay. Green Beckham finished with a pretty lackluster rookie type year. I mean, he was a second round guy. The physical skills are there. Six, six, man. He is so huge. That's what I mean. Physical stature is there. He's a bit raw. I need to adjust my 3D printer. He missed a year of college.

And so he was a little bit more raw coming in. The key number for me here is snaps for Beckham. How much was he actually out there? How much experience was he getting as we move into next year where he will likely become the number one target as far as wide receivers goes for the Titans? But weeks 1 through 8, only 33% of the snaps.

The second half of the year, 75%. So Ken Wisenhunt gets fired, and Greenbeckham finally gets on the field, which is, that's really not a surprise for Ken Wisenhunt to be putting his rookies in the doghouse. That's kind of his M.O. So Wisenhunt hit the bricks, get Green Beckham on the field, get him some experience, a lot of really bad games. I...

I think I disagree with you about the number one target thing. I don't think if he's remotely close. I would water bet that he's third or later on that team. I said wide receiver. Yeah, but Selkindle right will probably be the most targeted wide receiver there. I didn't say target. I said number one option. Did I say target? Did I say target? You said number one target. I meant as far as he's the number one wide receiver on the team. He's the alpha wide receiver. It's going to be. And to me, it's still right.

I think it, okay. I think it'll be backing. I don't know. I think it's going to be close because Kindle Wright, when healthy, is a great option. He's an okay option. But when it comes to red zones, which, you know, is going to matter for fantasy. Doral Green Beckham is going to be the guy that's eating up all of the jump balls, all of the valuable plays. The fact that the second half of the season, he had that opportunity, some of which came at the expense of Kendall Wright's injury, right? Like, that was what allowed him to get on the field.