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Fantasy Football Podcast 2017 - Live MOCK Draft Episode + Draft Strategy

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Fantasy Football Podcast 2017 - Live MOCK Draft Episode + Draft Strategy

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from Ingram, Montgomery, Ware, Powell, Coleman, Dalvin Cook, Amir Abdullah, Theoretic. Smash Jackson is on the board at 31. Smash Jackson will be on the board for a while. Adrian Peterson, Adrian Peterson. A lot of news at a Saints camp on the hype train about Adrian Peterson. I just can't buy a ticket right now. Understandable.

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Understandable. So when I look at these guys, I just don't want to draft any of them. And that's how I feel. I agree. Shut it down. The mock is done. If you're telling me, you know, Frank Gore might be the next best pick. But there's no reason to pick him here because he's not going to go before our next pick. You know, Theo Riddick might be in a full PPR league as good a pick as Mark Ingram by the end of the year. The difference between all these garbage running backs on the board.

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is a crapshoot. All right, Mike, give it a thought, what you might like at running back, or if you like a running back. I'm going to hit the pause button. I want to say thanks to our sponsor today, pristine auction.com. You can see if you're watching on YouTube, the Stefan Diggs jersey, and the pristine auction logo on the wall. We are huge fans of pristine auction. They're who we get our giveaway items through, how we cover our entire office and studio with the gears. Sports memorabilis site.

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I've had some consideration. I'll let you guys weigh in here because you're not going to like either of these names. Well, what were we doing giving it to Mike? The two running backs that I would pick from, and I'll maybe throw a third one in there, would be Thai Montgomery, Amir Abdullah, and then I'll throw in Spencer Ware. But Spencer Ware is just, you're talking about an uninspiring pick. Spencer Ware, it's tough what to make of him with Kareem Hunt in there.

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Amir Abdullah, of course, is just he's, this is projecting of him getting better. And Ty Montgomery, I think he holds on to that running back one spot for Green Bay. And while he didn't get this, the volume towards the, or this similar volume towards the end of the season, he still had two games of over 10 targets to get a running back who has that PPR in him. Potential. The last two games of the season, five targets, five targets.

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If you take his pace, even without those two monster games, you're still on about a 60 target pace. I just think that Ty Montgomery has a lot of upside in a PPR.

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I will agree with you, and I think you're rolling the dice on a number of factors with all of these guys. Yes. Abdullah with injury, with Montgomery, with snap percentage. With Ingram and Peterson, you'd be rolling the dice on who's getting what, you know, Alvin Kamara. Doesn't that say we should then draft a wide receiver or a quarterback that are good? Instead of trying to fill out the RB2 and then have a flex that could be the running backer or wide receiver, if we just grab a great wide receiver and then another great wide receiver.

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Now our flex is going to be strong, and then we just need to find one plug-and-play option for running back later. Yes. I'm caught right in between that world. That's the direction I was thinking before we started talking about pristine. But Sammy Watkins doesn't say, oh, I have to take him here. Sammy Watkins says I have to take him. And the reason why is because he's got that top five upside. And I agree with that. And you go, okay, who's the next guy? If it wasn't him, who would I take?

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To me, Golden Tate, Michael Crabtree, and Fitz, they're all the same. They're all great. I would love all of them. I'll grab one of them, whoever's left, but I would take Sammy Watkins. Well, we did. We did. You clicked the button with your brain, with your mind. Yeah, there you go. Sammy Watkins, we wanted to partner Rob Gunkowski with somebody else who's familiar with the back of an ambulance.

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Maybe not. Maybe that's putting it too harshly. Is Jordan Reed still out there? That's not nice. All right. Sammy Watkins, look, all the reports, if you're listening, and you have some hope for Sammy Watkins, you should. He's, you know, new offensive system. He's healthy right now. He's taking nearly all the reps at OTAs. I don't even know if he knew what they were before this year. So Sammy Watkins, off the board.

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pairing it with Antonio Brown, a lot of upside. Missed out on Time Montgomery. Travis Kelsey went off the board. There's still some guys there. Andy Dalton's gone. He was my kind of dream, QB2, that I knew wouldn't get around to me after we waited so long. Eli Manning went off the board as well. Jordan Reed's gone. We got Gruncowski 3-6. Wouldn't you rather have Jordan Reed 6-1, where he ended up going? I'd rather have Eric Ebron 11-2.

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And I would rather. You wouldn't take, I would have Jordan Reed 6.1 versus Ebron 112. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. And it's not because maybe in a keeper situation. Signature, you signed a deal with the devil on Eric Ebron in every draft. No. No, the reason why is because I would rather have. No tight end in the 11th. What I am saying is that if you want to talk to me about what 11th round quarterback and or wide receiver I'm going to get.

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to pair with Jordan Reed. And you look at that combination and say it's the same reason I would never have taken Gronk because you're missing out on something when you have to have three, you know, you've got to have multiple quarterbacks, multiple running backs, multiple wide receivers. It makes it tough to take a tight end early. I punt the position to the end of days. Give me David and Joku with my last pick. One might argue Rob Grankowski counts as two positions. Sure. Compared to the other tight ends. That might be the argument you had.

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You had two positions. And yes, you will, at the end of this draft, you were going to be able to look at would I rather have had, just like I did just now. If I knew Jordan Reed was going 6-1, sure. I wouldn't have taken Gronk either. Yeah. I think the Gronk value was there, but I get everything. Your team never looks great when you take a Gronk early, but if Gronk plays full season, you're in the championship contention. All right. So quarterback options right now, we're in the middle of the sixth round. Tyrod, Taylor, Blake Bortles, Carson Wentz, Carson Palmer.

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All the Carson's. Ryan Tannahill, Joe Flacco, et cetera. Ingram's still on the board. Powell, Abdullah, Woodhead, and then a ton of wide receivers that I love. Golden Tate, Larry Fitzgerald, Emmanuel Sanders, Julian Edelman. Stefan Dix. Yeah, there's, there are, if it were, so let me ask you this then. We took Sammy Watkins at the expense of a player we all like a lot, Andy Dalton. You could have had Andy Dalton and Golden Tate. Could have had Andy Dalton and Larry Fitzgerald, who finished.

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what, top 10 again last year. That might have been a better way to go. Or we have Sammy Watkins and Carson Palmer and I'd rather have Carson Palmer and Sammy Watkins than that previous combo. I think that is a very close. If you told me, okay, this is a trade who wins. I think it's close enough where it's debatable. However, I would probably rather have the Dalton side. The Dalton side. So here do you wait?

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Are you willing to wait for another quarterback? I'm not, because if you think about, okay, I need two of these guys. Some are going to go between picks. Am I going to use my next two picks? Are we going in and are out? I've lost track of the rounds. Are we on long way? We're kind of in the middle. Yeah, we're over six picks. Yeah, never mind. Dang it. So we have a full 12 to wait. Crabtree just went before us. Tyree Kail went, six, five. I mean, for me, it would be Carson Palmer or Tyrod Taylor or.

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You know, Larry Fitzgerald. Those are the three that stick out. Yeah, I would go, I would go Fitz or Golden Tate here. I also like Julian Edelman, but do you want to double up on? I'm going to take the quarterback because they're beyond Fitzgerald, beyond Tate, Edelman's there, Diggs is there. Yeah, there is a lot of depth to a wide receiver. There's, there are some high standout PPR guys there who I'd.

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But I think Andy's point here is that there's so little. You're going to be happy with. Yeah, there's nothing. Wins, Flacco? No, see, I do. I disagree. I'm happy with Taylor, Bortles, Palmer, Tana Hill. I'm happy with Taylor. I'm handing the pick off. I'm handing the pick off to Jason. I'm going to let him make the pick. It's Carson Palmer. Close. Carson Palmer was the number three, I believe, in pass rating over the second half of the season.

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He was actually really good over the second half of the season. He got better as the season went along. Look at this little gift we got, Mike. Oh, you're right. Carson Palmer. We took him. Tyrod Taylor followed up. Julian Edelman. Carson went. Great value on Julian Edelman, in my opinion, in the sixth round. Golden Tate's gone. Ingram finally went. So did Abdullah. So did Abdullah. But still on the board here. Primed for our flex position, although we need to talk running back as well. Larry Fitzgerald still on the board.

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Yeah, Larry Fitzgerald is there. Stefan Diggs is there. Both of those guys are elite to me in PPR. But you also have Frank Gore and Theoretic. And Danny Woodhead. Yeah, and Danny Woodhead. Mike Gillisley. This is where I'm glad we didn't take that, you know, garbage level running back. Instead, we waited to just find the value running back. I'm happy with that decision right now. You want to take Larry? I would take Larry. I would take Larry. In a PPR, I would take Larry. Hey, come up. Pair him with Palmer. Double up.

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Double up. Double up. You know who will appreciate those two picks? Our guest on Thursday. Yeah, David Johnson. That's right. All right. I was hoping you'd say it. So we're taking Larry? I apologize. We took Larry. He's still have Gore on the board. Gore is built for the RB2. Yeah. That's what he, in the factory on the instructions, it says, to create an RB2. Add, add some Gore to some Frank. Yeah, add some Gore to some Frank. Frank, we're talking about, you know, Smash Jackson.

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Frank Gore is much more of a smash job. Is an excellent running back name. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. That is a great name. That strikes fear. Frank Gore. I mean, what do you do when you? I'm getting out of the weight. Yeah. I don't want to draft him here. You don't want to draft them? Is that genuine? It is genuine. Okay. Tell us why. I'd rather draft somebody with slightly more upside. Okay.

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Smash Jackson or Mike Gillisley. There's no way I'm taking Paul Perkins over Frank Gore. You could talk me into Danny Woodhead or Theoretic if we're looking at the running back position. Okay. Do you want Gore? Let me throw this out there. We've been saying from the... I'm so sorry, Frank. We've been saying from the... You know what he is? Here's the picture. You're walking through the store. You're trying to pick out...

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You know, the hot new toy on the wall. And the one in the generic store packaging for, it's just called Running Back. And it's just regular font, plain pain packaging. That's Frank Gore. Everything next to it, you see the Smash Jackson action figure. You've got a button you can push on it to see how it works. It's like a Kirkland brand. All right. So here's what I would do. Jason was not into that. I wasn't listen. I would go.

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