Week 6 Studs & Stinkers + Monday Punday Extraordinaire - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/19

game from both of those players. That's how water bets are supposed to go. It's like the two good games and one was better. I agree. And so we'll see. There's there's some trouble at tight end and maybe both of those players are viable moving forward. We'll have the waiver show tomorrow. We'll talk about some options for your team. Stinkers of the week presented by odor eaters.

All right, we've got quarterbacks that stink, stunk. Hoof, man. Air Rogers. Aaron Rogers, what happened? 16 for 35? I do not know what happened. The Packers came out on fire. It was 10 to nothing. There was also an Aaron Rogers rushing touchdown that I don't know what happened where he dove forward and his knee hit the ground, but a defender hadn't touched him. It should have been a rushing touchdown, but then it ended up.

Going to Aaron Jones, and then Aaron Rogers proceeded to do nothing after that. Once he threw that pick six, he was a little shell shock, came back, throws another quick interception, and it was like every pass from then on out looked weird from Rogers. Him and Adams were out of sync. He was overthrowing guys. It was just, it was a weird game, and afterwards Aaron Rogers talked about we needed to get our butts kicked so we can stop, you know, sniffing our own. Mm-hmm.

Our own farts over here. Yeah, it's just so unexpected. The NFL's crazy. Every week you get two or three games where you're like, what? What happened? And Rogers gets Adams back and puts up a turd. Yep. And makes it a little bit harder to think he's locked and loaded every single week. Teddy Bridgewater, this was not a great game against Chicago. The Bears. Yeah. So they're not impervious. And then Big Ben.

Not a good week. Like I said, only 22 pass attempts in this game. And then Matthew Stafford, not a great one, 223 in one. He had, I think they had, what, three rushing touchdowns on the one. Three times, you know, Kenny Gallaudet pulled down on the one. Peterson, Swift had two touchdowns. It was an unfortunate output result for fantasy purposes, but do take solace in the fact that.

of how good the team looked, the offense looked very good, and Matthew Stafford was finally bombing the ball down the field again after the week of rest. Yeah, yeah. All right, running back disappointments, there are quite a few. Oh, man. Alexander Madison, 10 for 26. This one hurt a lot. He is not Dalvin Cook. No, he is not Dalvin Cook. I was hoping that we could get.

80 something percent of Dalvin Cook. The matchup was there. The game took a turn for an even better game script of a team that needs to come back. And for Alexander Madison, seeing some of those sweet, you know, just checkdowns, get them the PPR bump. And then, no, it was, in fact, Amir Abdullah was the passing downs running back for the Minnesota Vikings.

Who are you more disappointed in? The rhetoric around the week from coaching staff saying, hey, we don't change anything about Madison or is it Madison himself for not having a good performance? It's Madison. It's Madison for sure. Sounds like you're mad. I am. I am mad as son. A mad son because he stunk. And, you know, 10 carries against the Atlanta.

defense should not result in 26 yards. Maybe if he did better with those carries early in the game, they're not, you know, and they're able to run the ball. They're not throwing as many interceptions. They're in the game. This was a huge disappointment from Alexander Madison. A player we've waited two years to see this game. Yeah. And it was on the back of a second half the week prior. Like, look, Madison doesn't suck. He just flat out doesn't. We saw it the week prior.

This was a terrible game, and it sucked. And I blame him for it. There's a buy week in all reports from Minnesota. I have the number at 99.99% the Dalvin Cook will be back on the field. This was what you get from Alexander Madison. The hard part is he's rostered everywhere. And now if Cook goes out again, you're not guaranteed. Cream Hunt, he had a hard time against Pittsburgh. The whole Cleveland offense looked like it was.

what we've seen, not what we were hoping for. So 13 for 40. He ran hard. Baker probably should not have played. You saw it last week. He got hurt. He had the rib problem. He was shaking his arm for like the whole second half of last week. And then Pittsburgh, they are tenacious about getting to the quarterback. So Baker had a really rough game. He did not play the whole game. Right. Yeah, he came off the field too.

Todd Gurley, 20 for 47 when he doesn't score. Mike, I loved what you said last week because it made sense. Todd Gurley was Kenyon Drake with touchdowns. And he did not get the touchdown this week. He does get a lot of work, though. And so he's still somebody you're going to start. Yeah, you've got Detroit and then Carolina the next two weeks. All right. Yeah, he's fine. All right. We need to have a discussion here. Antonio Gibson.

I thought he'd take it to 100 this week. He did not. Nine for 30, five targets, four catches. J.D. McKissick, 39 snaps, Antonio Gibson, 27 snaps. Sometimes the dream is not the reality. And right now, look, the one thing I brought up about McKissick in the offseason was the fact that this head coach brought him in. It wasn't the previous regime. At this point in time,

It seems very difficult to trust Gibson on a week-to-week basis because of all the inconsistency in the offense and the snap counts are not all going his way. What are you guys' thoughts? The snap counts are not there. And McKissick was the one concern I had for Antonio Gibson. During the off season, I wasn't worried about Peterson, wasn't worried about Bryce Love. I felt that Gibson could surpass those guys on the depth chart. But the passing work, McKissick was the issue. Washington.

through, it's not a shock to any of us. They are bad. They are not a good football team right now. And when they are trailing, it's J.D. McKissick. And so that's where the coaching staff has the trust. And I don't see that changing. Like Dallas, they're going to be losing to Dallas. Then they get to play the Giants again. Maybe they can have a better performance against them. But Antonio Gibson probably has to go to your bench for.

the next couple weeks. I mean, Gibson did have five, you know, five targets in this game. Five in the last three weeks. Every single week he's getting five targets averaging about, you know, north of 15 opportunities a game. I feel like there's enough opportunity being given to him that you can still take the shot at a breakaway touchdown because of his athleticism. But obviously he's been, you know, disappointing the running back.

25, 28, and 25, three of the last four weeks. Well, and I should highlight the actual numbers from McKissac. Eight targets, eight targets, six targets the last three weeks. And he had 14 opportunities, so it's tough. I mean, you have to make more of your opportunities in a bad situation. Like you don't have the room for error. You don't have the goal line opportunities. I think if you get at the goal line, Gibson is going to get the ball more often than not. It almost feels a little bit like starting David Montgomery week to week. That's fair.

Montgomery, if he can find his way into the end zone, you're like, all right, I guess I'm glad I played him this week. So I'd love to see that big breakaway touchdown from Gibson, though. That'd be nice. We all would. All right. Cammakers didn't touch the ball. We're going to get him more involved. You're willing to just dump him right now? Roster spots are out of premium buy weeks. COVID. Probably? I mean, I think I'm willing to cut him. I think you might have to. Henderson looks great.

He does. And you know who looks terrible? Malcolm Brown. I mean, every time they gave him the ball is like... Slow down, Brown? Yeah. I was like, what are you doing? How was it at least not the Henderson Acres won two punch? All right. Here's Blupper Cup at the wide receiver position. Cooper Cup ended up three for 11 in this game. He had nine targets. He should have had two touchdowns. He had one blatant, like in zone two feet in, ball in his hand.

Should have been a touchdown. The other one, he broke free down the field and lost the ball on the lights or turning. You know, you can say what you want. Maybe he should have caught him. Maybe he shouldn't have. But opportunities, yes. Execution, none. I was going to say, at the end of the day, what matters is how it came about was the player bad? Is this worrisome for the future? And it's not. He had a terrible end result. But you can still rely on Cooper Cup. The Rams were still trying to rely on him. He should have had a good game.

And I think that's the point of this whole segment is trying to find players you're actually concerned about. Evans and Godwin. Evans, I'm not worried about him, but it was a disappointing performance. This is what we've come to expect from Evans. Every once in a while, he just poof disappears. Two targets, one catch, no touchdowns this time. And then Chris Godwin. What is the right way to think about Chris Godwin? Seven targets, five for 48, better defense than James had.

No shootout situation. Well, and on top of that, you have a run game now. Like Ronald Jones looks fantastic. He is a different player this year. They are able to actually function on the ground where last year it was James Wood often put the team into a hole. They would have to climb out with the passing game. The running game really couldn't get things going on top of that. So everything went to Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. This is a...

I think you do need to, Nate, I'm not going to panic on these guys, but you do need to adjust expectations that game scripts are simply not going to be in their favor every single week. I'm a little bit more worried about Mike Evans. I think he's someone that you might be able to trade high based on the touchdowns he's had, obviously bad week, so it feels like it might be difficult. But I will say this, if you look at the games where Chris, you know, Chris Godwin's played in three games, here are Mike Evans lines in those three games.

One reception for two yards, two receptions for two yards, and one reception for 10 yards. Touchdowns came in some of those, but it's one of those things where you mix in the game script, you mix in the defense, the running game, and Chris Godwin, and all of a sudden, Mike Evans is going to, he'll still have his big down the field, big plays, big games, but I think more often than not, he's going to not be very good.

One of the things I think you brought up in the offseason, Jason, was the idea that you're drafting Evans and Godwin at their absolute ceiling with where they were going in fantasy drafts. And it wasn't that they're not talented. It was that they needed to do what they did last year to justify the draft position. And any changes to this offense aren't going to bring them upwards, most likely. That's pretty compelling the splits with Godwin in the lineup. That does make me want to maybe shot Mike Evans because touchdowns.

Those are tough to predict. And Grankowski getting involved, I mean, maybe it takes him a little bit of time. And all of a sudden, that's another red zone weapon that takes the, what, the one-yard Evans touchdowns away? Interesting. Alan Robinson, nine targets, five for 53, no worries there. No worries about Devante Adams. Nope. No worries about DJ Chark, in my mind. 14 targets. Min shoes been real up and down, accuracy-wise. He has. Seven-for-45 for Chark. Didn't even think he was going to play, so.

No re-injury. He did not get re-injured. Keel and Cole actually came through with a pretty big game. There was a connection problem with DJ and Gardner for this particular game. Beckham, who I loved coming into the week with how Pittsburgh was 28th against opposing fantasy-wide receivers. I don't know if there was any downfield targets to go around. I mean, the one thing I noticed different about Keenham compared to Baker, like if I went into the game as a quarterback.

and I had to wear a flack jacket and my ribs were like destroyed. One of my hot tips would be the Jimmy Garoppolo game script where the ball was out of my hands. It's into the, it's to the Kareem Hunt. It's to the screen game. It's, hey, it's first read, let it fly. Don't hit me in the ribs. Baker just stood there the whole game. He never let it go. I don't know what happened. You saw several plays once Case Keenham came in.

where it was three-step drop, release the ball. And it's like, why weren't you trying that? Maybe the Minkup Fitzpatrick interception made him gun shy to just sling it. I don't know. It was gross. As a result, only four targets for Beckham. I believe one of his two catches came from Keenham. But brighter days ahead, I think, for this team. They'll be able to establish their offense against Cincinnati and probably Las Vegas because of the running game. Pittsburgh is a different beast in terms of trying to.

match them and be able to get it done in the passing game first. So I'm not doing anything with Beckham. Are you guys worried about Beckham? I'm not worried. It's just that you have to understand this is part of the Baker Mayfield and the Cleveland Brown's experience for Beckham. Yeah, it is what you're going to get the rest of season. Good games mixed with bad games. We can bring up Marquise Brown in the same breath. You're going to have.