Superstar Trades + Rest of Season Outlooks - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/8

Really? I thought he had two good games. Well, what's a good? Is 6.4 a good game? Because that's his second highest total. Then he's had a good game. I guess I'm thinking of last week where he had 54 yards and had that big 48-yard reception. I could see him doing something against the Bears, but okay, maybe you don't play Hayd Nurse. That's a DFS dart throw. All right, quick break, and then we will be back with the mailbag. Into the mailbag. We jump. Mailbag. Mail bag. Ooh. What? Why did the bear jump in? He wanted to get in on the mailbag. Jay Gris, your timing is awful, man. If we're going to start, we got to start at the same time. We've got to harmonize. Ridiculous cardboard bear. All right. Mailbag, if you want to submit a question that people often ask because they hear the mailbag. Well, how do I get in? Well, generally before a mailbag episode, we put a thread out there.

Or you can go to the website, click submit a question, or you can call our voicemail hotline at 302-464T-FFB. We've got a couple voicemails, so let's hear it. Hey, ballers, love the show. Would you guys trade Chris Olave for Devante Adams straight up? My opponent next week has Devante Adams. Let me know. Thanks. Okay. I love. I love the context to this question. Because in general, Chris Oliva for Devante Adams, if you're just out there and you're wondering, who would you rather have? That's a really good debate. I mean, Chris Oliva has been significantly, everyone's been significantly better than Devante Adams. It has been, we kind of highlighted it yesterday, but the run here for Devante Adams from week five. So we're talking, this is a five game sample size.

He has not hit 10 points in a half point scoring format. It's been awful. That five-game stretch would equate to a grand total on a season of 598 yards on 61 receptions with no touchdowns. He's been destroying people. And he plays the Jets. I know the question is talking about next week with some context, but if you're going to make that trade right now, you're going to be playing Devante Adams against the New York Jets who. just completely shut down Justin Herbert and company. Keenan Allen was okay-ish, so maybe Adams can be okay-ish. But, yeah, I mean, it's hard to have confidence in Adams for, you know, just even the rest of the season. Yeah, I do believe that Adams will completely bounce back. I really think he's going to be a fine fantasy asset going forward despite the five-week.

murderous row that he's been on. One of the things about this is his opponent that he's playing next week. It's interesting because you've got next week is... Chris Oliva would be on by. So you would be doing the sneaky snook move of disarming your opponent and maybe they don't even fully realize, which this is a pro move. Yes. This is a pro move to look at who you were playing in. some future weeks and maybe trying to take away from their lineup without them realizing what you've done. Yeah, I mean, I tried to make a trade yesterday straight up based on matchups and buy weeks and who I was playing. You know, in week 13 is Adams is on buy that week too. Yeah. So for me, I tried to trade basically Jalen Hertz for Josh Allen.

It was more pieces, but that was the core to a guy who loves the Eagles. I figured he would want Jalen Hertz more because right now I'm playing a tough matchup. And Josh Allen's buy is in a super weak matchup that I could start nobody and beat Jeremy's team in week 13. And so I was like, oh, that'd be great to play those by week schedule. So, I mean, is it worth it? If you like Oliva better than Adams, Is it worth saying, well, next week I'm going to take Devante Adams off of my opponent's roster. He plays Miami. I get to play him against him instead of taking points against me. And I'm giving him someone he can't play in return. That's a pretty big swing to get a W in a week where I think it's, I think that makes it worth it. As a tiebreaker for me, those things, you know, you got to have the Ws to go to the playoffs. You got to get to the playoffs to win a championship. I would, I like the thinking, I'm going to keep Crystal Lobby.

I think he's better rest of season. This is a question from Jack. How do we look at Saquan Barkley now that Daniel Jones is on IR? I mean, he is the entirety of nastiness. That is his role. We had a game just a couple weeks ago against the Jets where he had 41 opportunities. I've never seen a number that high. 36 carries 128 yards. inefficient, but he was the entire offense. Now, that was the punt game where they almost broke the record for most punts in an NFL game. So they were afforded that they could just keep giving the ball to him. If they're playing against someone who's actually going to put up points, you can't give Sequin Barclay 36 carries. And does he, I mean, no man can withstand that much of a workload. He will break down.

Yeah, the way that I view him is a extremely high floor running back two. You know, he is a guy that's going to score 10 fantasy points at least every single week. The Giants don't have other options to go to to not give him the ball enough to get him to that baseline. And I don't think he hits 20 points in games he doesn't get a touchdown in. And I'm thinking over the next, what are there nine games left, something like that, eight or nine games left? He probably has two touchdowns. He has eight. Because he has his bi-week and week 13. Yeah, so I would say, I would say, you know, he has two or three games where he might reach 20. And all the other games, he'll be in that, like, 10 to 14 fantasy point range. And a thing to remember, like, this is not a, this is not a red alert panic on Saquan Barclay by any stretch, because I agree. He's a high floor player. He's been over double digits for, since he's been back from injury. And that's what the Giants scoring.

Six points against the Raiders, 10 against the Giants, 14 against the Manders, 9 against Buffalo. This team is not scoring, but Saquo and Barclay, because of how much work he gets, he remains relevant. A thing to look at, though, we'll have no Daniel Jones. I don't know if we'll have Tyrod Taylor back at any points or not in this season. The playoffs. Saquan Parkley, on the road, we'll be playing the Saints. Not good. On the road, he will be playing the Philadelphia Eagles. Worse? And then championship at home against the Rams, we're okay-ish there. But those are, that's going to be tough. He's not going to get 36 carries at 3.6 a clip. They can't afford to do it. But maybe all the passes go to him. TBD. Let's jump into another voicemail. What's up? For the rest of the, would you rather have Derek Henry or Breece?

Hall. Rest of season, Derek Henry or Breece Hall, Jason? I saw this question earlier. I was doing some research, and man, I just kept going back and forth on these two. Breece Hall, I obviously am in love with his talent to have a monstrous huge game with one or two 60-plus yard touchdown runs or catches. I think stands with maybe two other players in the NFL. The playoff schedule kind of comes into my mind when I look at these two players, because if we're talking rest of season, I mean, both of these players have a really nice stretch. If you go from now forward for Brees, you've got the Raiders, which is great, Buffalo, which is great, Miami, not bad, Atlanta not bad, Houston is great, Miami not bad, Washington, great.

So his stretch run from here on out is fantastic. Championship week is against Cleveland Browns, not as good. Whereas Derek Henry, Derek Henry, the playoffs are really what you're excited for. Two games against the Houston Texans, who he destroys. But the process to get there isn't quite as good. You've got games against Tampa Bay and Jacksonville. So, yeah, the next two weeks are more rough for Henry, but then he gets. Carolina and the Colts, two of the best matchups. Yeah, I guess this is one of those where I would say if your team looks like it's playoff bound, right? You need, if you need wins the next couple weeks, I'm going Breeze Hall. And I would take that and get to the playoffs and do what I can. But if I'm already, you know, sitting at, you know, eight and two or seven to three or, you know, I look like I'm on my way to the playoffs.

then I'm going to take the playoff schedule of Derek Henry, because he's still going to be good along the way. Is Will Levis better than Zach Wilson? Yes. Okay. I thought this was maybe we'll have a little back and forth to have a discussion, but no, the answer is yes. Yeah, I mean, I think he is. It's too early to know on Will Levis. I don't think it's too early to know on Zach Wilson. You know, there's. Like I talked poorly about my long-term belief in Bryce Young, but it is too early to know on Bryce Young. Bryce Young could absolutely be fine. I've seen things that really make me worry and make me believe it won't be fine, but I'm not definitive with that. He could get it together. Zach Wilson has had plenty of time, plenty of throws, plenty of games, plenty of starts, plenty of matchups where it ain't happening with Zach Wilson.

So what I've seen from Will Levis, worst case with Will Levis is he becomes Zach Wilson. So, yeah, I think Will Levis is better because he has a chance to not be Zach Wilson. And that's all we need. Right. A chance to not be him. All right. Off of Instagram from DeVargas, trade Tyreek Hill. I love this question. Okay. So we're trading superstar Tyreek Hill for Tony Pollard, Jordan Addison. and davanta smith this is a philosophical question because you would it not having the context of the roster construction does make answering the question a little bit more difficult but okay we'll just talk surface level surface level philosophy tyreek hill and players like tyriekill of which there are only a handful you know your christian mcalfreys and and the people that put up regular

monstrous performances that help win weeks. They are worth more than multiple very good players. They just are. They are who wins championships. You don't win a championship if you don't have some of those monstrous performers. You can't have a solid lineup of good options. If you don't have a superstar in there, you're never going to cross that point threshold that beats good teams. So for me, I would rather have Tyree Kill. Because I'm still going to get other players in my lineup. You know, I'm still going to get whatever, you know, like you said, there's context that's needed here. What are your other running backs and wide receivers? If you're starting Tyree Kill and trash off the waiver wire, well, then maybe you do need some death and you hope that Tony Pollard becomes more of a star player. But like, Tony Pollard's pretty much stunk. Addison is unreliable. DeVantis Smith,

Devante Smith, you hope, gets better now with Dallas Goddard out. But Tyree Kill just puts up so many points in one position slot. I think I would rather have him. Well, you have Devonza Smith with no Goddard. No, I... That was a magical equation last year. It was magical, but it still wasn't Tyree Kill magical. Granted, that magic plus Addison plus Pollard is probably worth it. I don't think this is an unfair trade. I think it's important people realize... The true value of a superstar is not just the, it's the points coming in one spot that opens up. All right. I got another superstar test for you then. Okay. This is off of YouTube from Ethan Kreitner, trade Alvin Camara and Bijon Robinson for Christian McCaffrey and Jerome Ford in a full PPR. I'm eight and one. Okay.

Yeah. Alvin Camara. It's full PPR. Full PPR with Alvin Camara. For Christian McCaffrey. That's a perfect example of what I'm talking about. This question is impossible. I'm taking Christian McCaffrey and Jerome Ford. I'm going to try to get the one player who could put up massive amounts of points. Jerome Ford and the Cleveland Browns have the fourth best schedule for running backs for the rest of the season. For all we know, Jerome Ford is just as good as bejean for fantasy the rest season i wouldn't you know say that that's the likely outlook um but arthur arthur that turd um man we made it we made it over 40 minutes into the show before we had to to mention arthur oh man that dude sucks i saw what what okay is there any chance that now the mustache is gone

that the evil's been released. Yeah, that this weekend all of a sudden is just, Drake London, we don't know if he's going to play, but it's just, it's nonstop Bijan. It's nonstop Kyle Pitts. Um, is there a chance? There's not. There's not a chance, man. When you read this guy's upbringing and background and, you know. And talking about Tyler Algier is one of the best goal line running backs in the league. Well, that's why you give him so many carries inside the five. He's been okay. Inside the five, I think he's, what, three for six or something. Yeah. That's pretty good. But at the same time. But Bijan is 0 for one. Yeah. Bejohn's been given one chance. Same as Jonu Smith inside the five. Half of what you've given Cordero Patterson inside the five. I mean, this roster has so many carries inside the five and only one has gone to Bijon Robinson. That is hurting your team. Back to back to the question. Arthur is distracting us again. Camara and Bijon for Christian McCaffrey, Jerome Ford.

Full point PPR. You go on the Christian McCaffrey side? I am going to take the Christian McCaffrey side, but it is, that's, that's a, that's super tough. I mean, because full point PPR, all three of these are past catching running backs as far as the three big names here. But Jerome Ford, I think is, you know, he's coming off of his high ankle sprain. He's going to get better as the season goes on. Good schedule. Christian McCaffrey is, he just scores more points than everyone. And that's what it takes. With Christian McCaffrey in the League of Record, I feel like I can have garbage. Right. You've been winning with AJ Dylan as your RB2. This is the point. Like Jerome Ford is a huge upgrade over there. Oh, I would, if I could get Jerome Ford. Yeah, you'd be, you'd be clear. I'd be so happy. Because Christian McCaffrey puts up monstrous performances every single week. All right. Got a fun one here from Chris Yeek or Keek.

I don't know. What will it take for Jason to get a tattoo of the footballer's logo? Don't worry though. Chris adds in he can pick the location in size. Oh, I can pick where I'm going to put my tattoo. That's super kind. That's really kind, Chris. The person whose body the tattoo is going to go on, they get to choose. That's what I love about our audience. Yeah. They are good people. Gracious. Thank you, Chris. What will it take? It would. How do I talk you into a footballer's tattoo? You'd have to, you'd have to. talk me into art that I like everywhere because I don't think I want a tattoo like if I were to go tattoos you know and get a sleeve of something I liked okay then the baller's logo would be part of that or something I don't want to just get like a baller's logo be like that's the one tattoo I got what about a shield right over your heart it's too boob shaped I don't think it would play well I think it would be like

You know, what's that, what's that fantasy footballers balloon? No, it's a shield. It's, uh, it's like a shield on my heart. That doesn't look like a shield. That looks like a boob. Lay off me. There's fast food restaurants everywhere. It's not my fault. All right, Twitter question for Paul. Naji Harris on the up, time to buy a low. Um, I, I, the baby Yeti. The baby Yeti, he was better second half of last year. He's been top 12, two out of three weeks. Deonti Johnson is back. That helps the offense tremendously. Yeah. The Muth might be back. Look, if you're in a situation like Mike is in. Oh, man, I'd be so happy. Exactly. Like if you're starting to AJ Dylan every week in the two, Najee is a target that you could get really, really, really cheap. But I could tell you that most teams don't want to be starting Najee.

I think it's the wrong decision in a lot of weeks to actually put him in over other decent options on your team. Do you want, if you trade for Najee, you're going to play Najee. Nagy or Madison rest of season? Madison, without question. So, yeah, I mean, if you've got someone like Alexander Madison to play, I would do that. If right now your RB2 has been Deontah Foreman. And it's like, oh, now you might lose him and you just don't have another option. Then, yeah, maybe trade a middling wide receiver for Najee because he won't cost a ton. But if you have other options, if you've got you, if your RB2 is Rashad White, if your RB2 is Madison or someone decent, then don't trade on the cheap for Najee because it'll make your life a living hell.

Yeah, it's very possible. Off of YouTube from Estock 5467, Tank Dell or Deontay Johnson? Tank Dell or Deontay Johnson? I'm going Deontes. Yeah, it's Deontes. I love the, I love what we've seen from Tank, but Tank's going to be back and forth. Deontes every week. YouTube, in a Keeper League, this is from Daryl. Any keeper league, win now. Do I trade Bijon for Echler? Yeah. When now? When now? Oh, because it's a keeper. Yeah, it's a keeper league. Ah, okay. I was like, why would you not trade Bejohn for Eckler? You would have, you would have Bejohn next year. And what is Echler next year? Who knows? His contract is done. He is an older running back. I mean, he's still a excellent player, but I mean, does Echler?

I guess he had some chunk runs this time. I was like, yeah, yeah, he's, he's looked great this year. But he's going to be a 29 or 30 year old running back in a free agent market. Him and Derek Henry are going to be fighting. So you can't view Echler as some great keeper option. In our league of record, I've got Echler there. You know, he's not going to be someone I'm relying on looking at like in my keepers. What if he, all this like do, do, do, do breaking news. Echler signs two-year contract with Los Angeles Chargers. Oh, that is my hope. And he's back this offseason. He's back 100%. He looks every bit as good as he has looked the last several years. He's catching, other than the few drops, he's catching a ton of passes. He's gold around the end zone. So do you take the risk, though?

Because that was all hypothetical. He didn't actually sign the two-year agreement. You take the risk. And it's not even that. It's not even that. It's not the risk that, oh, I hope he resigns with the chargers. In a keeper league, if it's just keeper, where you're keeping like, you know, three max of four guys, you know, two, three or four keepers, one, two, three or four keepers, I just don't. view it the same way as like a dynasty league where I care so much about youth and I worry so much about who my keepers are going to be. There's so much turnover in keeper leagues. They are borderline redrafts. You can manage away from that. Win now with Echler. Last question here from Beatle 58. Who do you have more confidence in going forward week 10 and onwards? Tassum Hill or Trey McBride?

The hype behind these two is unreal. Yeah. Okay, so the, the confidence in. It's, it's got to be Tayson Hill. It has to be Tayson Hill. But the uses we're seeing out of Team McB is very, very exciting. The fact that Kyler's back, very exciting. There's, like, I think that Trey McBride, he should easily be a top 12 guy moving forward. But Taysam Hill with all his. gadget plays is just he's he is an unstoppable force for fantasy at this point tasem's being utilized in a way that makes me have confidence in him and he is you know the reason he's utilized the way he is is because he's a great athlete i mean he is hard to tackle he is faster than people expect he beats people to the edge he runs people over he is um

special with the ball in his hands. And if he's getting as many opportunities as he is, you've got to go Tayson Hill here. I like both players. And you've also got the wrinkle of Zachert's presumably will be coming back off the IR. Yeah, it could be. So when he comes back, what does that do to Team McB? So, yeah, it's Tayson. And what happens if Derek Carr misses time and they decide to put Tayson Hill at the quarterback and you're playing him in your tight-in position? Probably not going to happen, but. it's at least a possibility that's going to do it for today's show jason was on the latest dynasty podcast if you're not aware we do have a completely separate fantasy footballers dynasty podcast drops every week always has borg bets and then usually myself or jason on there what did what did you guys talk about on today's show it was a midseason award show so we talked about oh i love awards yeah but this was a helpful award show wasn't just like to dole out um awards it was like

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