Superstar Trades + Rest of Season Outlooks - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/8

On today's episode, we are dealing with some of the most important questions of fantasy football going forward, talking about who we're hungry for more, breaking down the Thursday night matchup and more. Make sure you subscribe right now and leave a comment how your season's going. Enjoy. To the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome into the podcast one more time. That's the fantasy footballers podcast, if you're nasty. Jason Moore is on the mic. Yes, I am. Jay Gris. On the mic. Me. Mike. On the mic. It's pretty confusing being in the audio industry when your name is Mike. Yeah, that was a problem for you? It remains a problem for me. Like what just happened? Yes. Because people say the word Mike and then, I mean, your ears perk up and oh, you're not talking to me.

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I am at FF Hitman. Follow Andy at Andy Holloway. Again, ballers discord.com. You should jump into there on today's show, The News, Hunger for More, Thursday night matchup, and some good old-fashioned mailbag. Let's kick it off. Welcome to Hungry for More, presented by Uber Eats. Let's find out what players we are hungry for more of. We'll go real quick. Jay Grizz has said Cole Komet. Makes sense. Tight end of the Chicago Bears who has seen a target share of 27% and 31%. He plays tomorrow night. We'll be talking about him on the breakdown. Yes, we will. Secret Baygent man loves him some Cole Komet. He does. So that's not a bad. That's like your first good pick in a while, Jay Gris. Because I feel like usually you're just. Yeah, you are forcing it.

I'm going with Deontay Johnson as my hunger for more player. He has come back from injury. First week back was in the 60% of snaps. But the last two weeks, he's been up near 90% of snaps. He's the clear cut number one read in this offense. Since returning from IR, he's got target shares of 26%, 35%, 31%, and his lines the last two weeks, 8 for 85, 7 for 90, and that touchdown. He's heating up. I feel like you have to be in on Deonté Johnson. I forgot until recently someone pointed out how bullish I was on Deontay Johnson in the draft season. Thinking like this, that he would be the clear cut one for this team. Obviously the hamstring issue at the beginning of the season wiped that whole thing away. But now that he's back and he's healthy, this is reminding me like I think it's good for the Steelers offense.

and his fantasy value should really be there. I look at where he is and consensus rankings and pricing and all things. I think he is undervalued right now. He looks to me to be a really, really solid, certainly a wide receiver two or better rest of season, you know, could be top 15. I think that is a good point. The fact that he is undervalued. Because when I'm still in that camp of when I think about Deonté Johnson, You don't think about, well, this is the top-tier guy, but the numbers have been just bananas the last three weeks since he's been back. And I see no reason that those won't continue. Yeah, his pace over those three games would be 164 targets, 113 receptions, 1,139 yards, and six touchdowns. I mean, those are incredible numbers. So, yeah, maybe go see if whoever has Deonté Johnson is thinking of him appropriately.

I'm hungry for more Alexander Madison. We are back, baby. We are absolutely back. He going to eat. I mean, this is a perfect, for this segment, this boy, going to eat. That's the question is, which Alexander Madison are we going to get? Looking forward, he has the fourth best schedule for running backs. He does have Detroit and Week 16. That's kind of a bummer. But last week, 18 opportunities, great receiving touchdown. He just gets so, so much volume. Justin Jefferson, not likely to be back this week, but he could return. And it's, remember, the fantasy output for Madison over the first six games, it was kind of up and down. But we had gotten to a point where he was really cooking. And talk about the volume, weeks one through six, 71% of the snaps, a 12% target share, 81% of the running back attempts.

I still think Ty Chandler is, you got it. He is a worthy addition. The now backup running back. Was previously the backup running back and he's back to the backup running back. Maybe they worked Ty Chandler in a bit more like they were doing with Cam Acres or maybe they just don't like Ty Chandler and Alexander Madison is going to get everything. And when he's in a good script, he can be a good player. The first two weeks against really tough run defenses, it was not great. But then you have the Chargers, the Panthers. 4.6 a carry, 5.6 a carry. So the opportunity is massive for him. I fully expect him to be a 70 plus percent snap player. You think we go right back to him being the volume play. And in a bad matchup, you could throw him in there and you hope that it's like week one against Tampa Bay where he had 11.9 fantasy points. Like that's not great, but still against a good defense. It's running back to stuff. Yeah, he volumed his way too relevant.

Output like this week against New Orleans Saints, it's not a great matchup, but I think he's going to get everything. So he's going to be in your lineup. You're hoping he crosses that 10 point, half PPR barrier. But then the next three matchups, Denver, Chicago, and the Raiders. Beautiful. I mean, those as far as fantasy points given up to running backs, that's, that's, it doesn't get much better than that. And he plays with national hero Joshua Dobbs. Yes, he does. That's just, that's a fun little point. That was hungry for more presented by Uber Eats. Get almost, almost anything delivered with Uber Eats. Running backs? No. Ribs? Yep. Order now on the app. Product availability may vary by region. See app for details. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. Mentioned it, but Justin Jefferson is unlikely to play. That was from the head coach Kevin O'Connell on Monday.

So we will see when they actually open that practice window. Yeah, he said they might open the practice window. He's not, I mean, he's just not playing this week. I think that we can be honest and clear. All the reporting is that that is not the expectation. He's not practicing. If they open his practice window, then that doesn't mean he will start this week. He's got three weeks, just like we saw with Kyler before he has to get back out there. If they don't open his practice window this week, that's really concerning. Because they still could take the three weeks. That means that they're not sure how long it's going to take. I doubt that they would open his practice window and then put them right out there at full steam. So that's something we'll be monitoring. Cardinals quarterback, Kyla Murray, was activated. It's official. So it is go time for Murray and the Arizona Cardinals. Hot off of yesterday's debate. Oh, baby. Yes. Eat it, Mike. Yes.

The Rams signed quarterback. Who? Carson wins. And also released Brett Rippin Farts, which that is two fart jokes right in a row. Talk about releasing him. They also released the gas man. I mean, oh, the gas man, Miles Gaskin and Brett Rippin Farts released together. So, they're just trying to air that locker room out. Very nice. Okay. I, so I'll start it with I, so I tweeted. about both of us tweeted immediately if you haven't been following the show long enough to know jason and i made a bet years ago years ago the craziest funniest bet of all time of who will be done first carson wince or matt ryan and i was on the wind side jason was on the ryan side and it just the the ebbs and the flows of this bet over years has been just the wildest ride but carson wince is now

He is now the backup plan for the Rams, which I tweeted about it saying, you know, things must be way worse. And it, look, it's a joke. I'm dunking on Carson Wentz, but he's back. It is, this has to be better news for Puka and Cooper Cup should. Matthew Stafford not actually be able to play. That bet was made in August of 2021. Wow. August of 2021 and we're still going. Well, we might be at the conclusion. We won't know for sure until the end of this year. If Matt Ryan doesn't get a job, which he's not going to get a job. He's not going to get a job this year. The.

You think he's going to drop next year? The real test is next year because Matt Ryan had said, no, I don't want to play this year, but I'm not closing the door. He's probably done. Yeah, I think the NFL's closed the door. But will Carson Wentz get a snap? We don't know. He doesn't need to get a snap. He's playing football. Oh, he's, oh, no, this is a win, brother. We've got to have a conclusion to this. Okay. Yes, he is coming in to be the backup. Either way, when it comes to Puka, Nakua, and Cooper Cup and Darrell Henderson. Yeah, the whole Rams offense. Everybody.

This is great news because you will have a competent quarterback behind center. It will either be Matthew Stafford with a hurt thumb or Carson Wins. Here's the way I view the Rams offense. They take a step backwards from what it was with Healthy Matthew Stafford. If Stafford plays, we've seen him play through this exact injury on this exact thumb before, and he was much worse playing with it. So the Rams offense takes a step backwards if Stafford is on the field. previous to his healthy version of himself. If Carson Wins comes on the field, they take a step backwards from healthy Matthew Stafford. He's just not as good. But they are competent. The ball will be moved. They've got Sean McVeigh to run the system. And this will be an incredibly massive, important step forward over Brett Rippin Farts. Because previous to this signing, Puka and Cooper Cup both, we said it yesterday,

They're must bench. They're like, you can't start those guys if Brett's the quarterback, just can't do it. Titans updates. Will Levis is officially the quarterback moving forward. Good. Of course, this is what they have to do at this point. And wide receiver, Traylon Burks, remains in concussion protocol unlikely to play this week. Goodness gracious, the Traylon Burks. Saga. Yeah. I mean, this guy, it's. really unfortunate. He just can't stay on the field. It's such a good matchup, too. Yep. David Montgomery of the Lions returned to practice on Tuesday. That fits the timeline. The comments from Dan Campbell, who has been exceptionally forthcoming on injuries when, you know, some coaches are liars, some aren't. Dan Campbell usually is just, you know, he's your straight shooter. And he was asked flat out, do you expect, uh,

David Montgomery and two of the offensive linemen who have been injured, do you expect them to play? He said, yeah, they were out there today, Monday. We're going to see on Tuesday if they get a full practice in, but everything looks good to go. My expectation is that those guys are ready to go. Then you had the full practice Tuesday. That means David Montgomery is integrated into the David Montgomery role. He is someone that you should be starting, and I personally believe it flips back to the previous. script where Jemir Gibbs is in the Jemir Gibbs role and Monty's in the Monty role. A flash from the past. We're back, baby, the Dallas Cowboys. It's just fun to, just to say. But the Cowboys have signed Martavis Bryant to the practice squad. He was reinstated after all these years. And he's going to get a chance, I guess. I mean, he is a cautionary tale. It's not fair what happened to his career. Correct. Where.

You know, it's like he does something where his career is over and then the next minute's like, oh, you're allowed to do that now. But your career is over. So I'm glad he got a job. Right. This is completely and utterly irrelevant. I wouldn't pick him up in a dynasty league. I mean, this is right now you're not really able to play Michael Gallup and Brandon Cooks. I can't imagine that a guy who hasn't played in years is going to become relevant. as the fourth option behind them, if he even ever gets on the active roster. It's just, it's fun to remember what could have been with Martavis Bryant. That was today's news and notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at usAA.com slash insurance. Thursday night breakdown. Coming into Thursday night with a combined record.

of three and 14. Nice. The Carolina Panthers, one and seven, take on the Chicago Bears, who are two and seven. The draft king's sportsbook line is Chicago favored by three and a half, the over under, an incredible 39 points. So I've gone back and forth on this game. On, like, puking or retching? No, on, on, like, every now and then, I go. I think this could be a surprising shootout. You know, we've seen... Okay. Because whenever you've got teams like this that can both pick six their way to being down on a deficit, and then you can get into a little shootout with two defenses that, you know, aren't that great. But then I... So I'm like, oh, man, I'm going to take this as a surprising game to score a lot of points, and then I go, man, that's probably dumb. You know, Tyson Baygent and...

Bryce Young, they're not the guys I want to bet the over on. So I'm staying away from a definitive viewpoint on like whether this is over or under the game total. But there is, you know, there are relevant fantasy assets on both sides of the ball. Talk about the running game for the Panthers. What is going on? You know, we've seen the switch to Chuba Hubbard over the last. handful of games. That's coincided with coming off the injury for Miles Sanders. Do you think it gets back this week towards a 50-50 or is it still Chuba? I still think that Chuba will have the majority of it. It was like it wasn't the worst this past week against the Colts because he finished, you know, relative to the other players, he finished as running back 24. But that was on 22 opportunities. That was incredibly disappointing. I think that Chuba is still.

in flex consideration and Miles Sanders remains the, I'm not going to drop him, but he remains on my bench until I actually see him on the field more than 25% of the snaps and looking like Miles Sanders is supposed to look. He had 11 opportunities last week so that the shift back to Miles could be coming sooner than later. But to me, it's still Chuba as the main guy. So over the course of the season and when you adjust for schedule, the Chicago Bears have given up a lot of fantasy points to the running back position. But they have really locked it down in the, at least the running game, the actual on-the-ground rushing game. They have given up very few yards per carry. Here's a tweet from Matthew Betts since week four Chicago's rushing defense. They've been dominant. They're number one in EPA.

per rush attempt in rush success rate and running back yards per carry to loud, all three first. If you look at the recent stat lines from good running backs against them, Alvin Camero was nine for 26 on the ground. Austin Eckler was 15 for 29. Josh Jacobs was 11 for 35. Alexander Madison, 18 for 44. Thank you for including him in good running backs. 6 for 10. So this is one where it's like. I don't think I want to play the Chuba Miles Sanders game on Thursday night football. If I can bench them for other decent, mediocre option, I feel like I'm looking elsewhere. I mean, it's a tougher week, so let's take a look at some names here. Let's say Jalen Warren. Yeah, Jalen Warren, I think I would play against Green Bay. Green Bay has been gashed on the ground.

I think the Steelers' offense is maybe getting it together now with Deontay. How about the new waiver hotness, Keaton Mitchell? Oh, I don't think I could go that far. I could easily see him scoring more, but he's a guy you've got to hold on your bench right now until you figure out whether he's getting enough touches. I'll take the touches of Chuba. All right. Quarterback-wise, Justin Fields has put in a couple limited practices. The latest I am seeing, and this is from bleachernation.com. They are saying it sounds like Justin Fields won't play on Thursday. So we're getting close to Fields getting back, but expect that he will not be on the field, which affects your decisions of like DJ Moore. What do you do with DJ Moore who somehow is still the wide receiver eight on the year due to that one week where he destroyed my soul? Great player. Been in the top 24 just twice. Are you?

Are you playing him in which the Panthers, the Panthers give up points to the running backs? And we'll get into the running back discussion just a moment. Are you confident playing DJ more or are you looking for like, would you play Tyler Lockett? Oh, I would definitely play Lockett over more without question. There might be a little bit of rain in the Tyler Lockett game, but the matchup against the Manders is great. Tyler Locke has just been better than DJ Moore over the last couple of weeks, including his down week. So that one's easy. I think if you've got Terry McLaren, a Garrett Wilson, a Nico Collins, a Christian Kirk, I'm playing all those guys above DJ Moore. That doesn't mean you can't play DJ more. He's got the talent to house something. And I mean, Darnell Mooney was 5 for 82 last week. I don't say that to play Darnell Mooney, just of...

Right. He could go to Cole Commet. Secret Agent Man loves Cole Commet. This isn't a situation where DJ Moore is getting 10 targets every week with the backup. And even though they're not valuable, you can't play him. They're not valuable and he's not getting 10 targets a week. On the other side, Adam Thielen, I mean, it has really slowed down the last two weeks. The last week. Okay. I feel like two weeks ago. I'm just looking at the wide receiver 31, but 11.2, that's fine. That is perfectly acceptable. But, I mean, that's a slowdown compared to. Well, I mean, he was, he was on a rocket ship. Eventually a rocket ship burns the fuel. It's still going real fast. That's just not accelerating. There's no friction. Right. It just keeps going to its point. So I hope he just coasts. Even if he coasts with what he did in week eight, which, you know, people feel like was down week.

That was eight for 72 on 11 targets. Right. Keep it up. Adam Thielen's in my lineup. Okay. Against the Bears, Adam Thielen is absolutely there's very, very few options. I could imagine you were going to bench Adam Thielen for. Now the difficult discussion. Oh, yeah. Because there's gold to be mined, but you're not mining through rock. You're mining through poop. And so it's like, this has you got gloves on, but you're digging for gold. I mean, to give the analogy some credit, if I'm a, if I'm a miner, I think I'd rather go through the poop. It's softer. It's more malleable. I can get through it. Okay. No gloves. Okay. Now we got to. Yeah. Now it's a now it's a question. Now it's like do you want a pickax through that rock and find gold? Or there's gold right here in this giant dung heap. Just put your hands in. Just go get it. It's easy. Which one you pick it? So what we're talking about is the Panthers. Schedule adjusted. Fifth against quarterbacks.

second against wide receivers, third against tight end. Is that because their defense is so great? Hold on because they're 30 firsts in schedule adjusted points to the running back position. Yeah, it's because you just run on them. That's all you do. And so what do you do here? Deonta Foreman has been pretty solid in relief. You have the one absolutely incredible game that was followed up by nine carries for 34, disaster. And then against the New Orleans Saints. a very good run defense, 20 carries for 83 yards. The 20 carries is the point is the, that's what really stands out. But Khalil Herbert is back. He is, he was listed as a full practice on Monday and Tuesday. What do you project here? Do you, do you have the courage to start either one of these guys knowing that, I mean, it's, it's a possibility that they completely wash each other out, but there is.

there remains the probability that one of them, like Deont de Forman, who's been getting all the carries, remains the starter, at least for a week while Khalil Herbert returns. Was Herbert a high ankle sprain? He was. And so, I mean, guys, superstars coming off of a high ankle sprain, they come back like Seco and Barclay. And they're just not even close to ready, even though they're healthy and on the field. Do the bears look to Deontah Foreman? And we get... Another 20 carries. Yeah, these are great questions. The way that I view it is somewhat similar to the other side of the field with the Carolina Panthers. Chuba is the leader you presume because he has been recently. And Miles Sanders could just make it a 50-50 or could be the starter once he's healthy. And that's kind of very similar. You've got Deont de Foreman on the other side who's been the starter recently. And then you've got Khalil Herbert coming back from injury who was the starter beforehand.

If I have to pick between whether I'm going to start a Chuba versus a Foreman or a Sanders versus Khalil Herbert, I'm taking the Bears side because of the matchup. So I think there's higher upside for touchdowns with them. And so I would play those guys first. My biggest hope is that there is a very surprising, I mean, it wouldn't be surprising if we're able to predict it, but Deont de Forman inactive. and Khalil Herbert's the starter, and they go back to kind of the roster construction they were using prior to Kalil Herbert. That would make it a lot easier to not play Foreman. Well, it would be, and to make sure you play Kalil Herbert. I don't think that's what will happen because Herbert's coming back from a high ankle sprain and could re-agravate it. I think they'll have the protection of Foreman in the game. If they're both active, which one are you playing first? Kalil Herbert or Deont Foreman? I think I'm going to stick with Foreman for a week because it's,

It's a high ankle spring. Like, Foreman has played excellent for the Bears. In the four games of relief of being the primary runner, he's averaging 15 carries a game, he's averaging almost 70 rushing yards so that he's running at four and a half a clip. And that, I mean, that includes the down games. Like he has been, he's been a good player for them. How do you, how do you go immediately go right back to Khalil Herbert with the injury still sort of there? Eileen Deont de Forman, I. personally in our league of record, as of right now, I essentially have to make the decision because a stupid Thursday night getting blowing things up for me. What's the decision? Deontza Foreman as a running back two or AJ Dylan, which every time I play AJ Dylan, it's a disaster. Yeah. Because it's, I get it. I get it. It's because it's because it's AJ Dylan. Yeah. But I at least know that AJ Dylan is.

is going to get a certain amount of touches. And right now, it's Foreman is who is in there. Yeah, I don't blame you there. I feel like I feel like I think Khalil Herbert will run ahead of Deonti Foreman in this game. I think he'll get the first touch and the bulk of the carries. But against the Panthers, both players could be relevant. I'm not going to start Rocheon. I think right now you just hold on to him. Yeah, it's good luck to anyone who has to make a decision about any of these bears running backs like me, there is certainly pain waiting for us on Thursday. Yeah. And I think you could start both tight ends here in this matchup. Colcomette, you got to stay in the flames, 27%, 31% of targets last two weeks. Bejant loves him. And Hayden Hurst, he's only sneaky because of the matchup. The Bears schedule adjusted really bad against tight ends. He's only had a few good games. He's had a good game.