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wide receiver twos for offenses like i just i want the best player i want a one and he's the most talented too of you know there's a handful of teams that have guys like that digs and theelin right landry will have opportunities for big plays because of odel beckham i'm not saying i'm holding him based on a fifth round draft position but it's interesting because there's an opportunity

That I think maybe we don't see if he comes back into the slot. Yeah, being the number two-wide receiver for a great quarterback like Baker can't succeed. I'm not saying that Jarvis Landry is going to be just terrible. Seventh round. You want him in the seventh round? Yeah, I'll take a seventh rounder. I would take a seventh rounder. Okay. Because the worry is he doesn't score touchdowns. He's always been a volume play, and now he's not the volume play. Yeah. So it's a bad combo. All right. I want to talk about Carson wins. Change quickly. And here's the thing.

I like how they're so polite. The booers were so polite that they let the people that cheered go for a while. The people that cheered, they're like, yes, you've had your time now. We will proceed to boo. I'm not wearing Jets Green tonight. I'm sorry. I'm wearing Eagles green. He's not happy, but let me... Maybe that was a mistake. It's Jets Green. Yay. Hey. We love a turdoll. Robbie Anderson. Arnold.

Here's the deal. And by the way, Carson Wentz, I want to talk about Carson. He is a hold for me, so you'll have to get past the emotions and listen for a second. This is fantasy football. This is not your team. Hate him in real life, draft him in fantasy. That's what I'm going to say. But here's the deal. Last season, obviously, injured again. He's being drafted. Carson Wentz is being drafted as a fringe quarterback won this year. Jason, you said you're doubling down on NBS.

Carson Wins is my stone cold, probably going to be my my guy, super double down this year, and I want to explain that. Barely being drafted as a French QB1. We don't have a small sample size on Carson Wins from 2017. Mike, I have a question for you. Yes. Very important. Would you wonder if unicorns existed if you rode one to tonight's show?

I rode a unicorn. If you rode one to tonight's show, would you doubt their existence? Well, I would give the horn a good test to make sure it's not a horse. We've already seen it. We've already seen Carson do it. He came and he said, I'm a unicorn. Hold on. So Carson Wentz is a unicorn. That's what you're telling me? Is that if you...

If you're wondering, if you can believe something, and you've already seen it with your own eyes, it makes it easier to believe it. We have 13 games of Carson Wentz being the number two quarterback in points per game. It wasn't three or four games. There's these really exciting quarterbacks. What's Baker going to be? He could be a top five guy. James Winston, this is finally James' year. He's going to eat the W this year. Ooh, delicious. And...

My point is we've seen it before. Last year, yes, disappointing because he couldn't stay on the field. Still jumped his completion percentage from 60 to 70 percent, better passer rating. One year removed from the ACL injury. If you ask why Carson Wins is being drafted the way he is, why you, as a fantasy football player gets a discount on Carson Wins, it's 100% availability. That's what it should be. Chris Sims, the other day, Chris Simms, former NFL quarterback, he said,

This was his quote. He's a more physically gifted version of Andrew Luck. If you remember, you just have to roll it back a second. Let me talk about his neck beard, though. Nobody's more gifted in neckbeards than Andrew Luck. But the only reason people aren't drafting Carson wins to be a top five candidate.

which is where I have him ranked is because of the availability. And I'm not going to bank on Carson Wins being heard again this year. I'm going to look for the incredible value on a guy that's already proven he can be a top five guy. But I want to talk about one other caveat here with Carson Wins. Excited to talk about it. We know the weapons. You got Zach Ertz. You got Alshon Jeffrey. You got Nelson Aguilar. You got...

Dallas Goddard, who, Jason, I think you're in love with. I am in love with Dallas Goddard. I love. I love Titanic 2s. No, no, no, no. Dynasty. Dynasty. I think his future is bright. I love Titan 2s behind really young elite tight ends. They're great. He thinks you're boring and he thinks you're overrated. Just remember. It's been 84 years. But it's Deshaun Jackson time. Deshaun Jackson gets a second tonight. By the way, number one in history, 60-yard touchdowns.

Deshawn Jackson has not lost the step, but here's what he does to fantasy quarterbacks when he arrives. Donovan McNabb. I know you probably don't like him. Doesn't matter. When he had D. Jacks, six more touchdowns a season, 200 plus more yards a season on average compared to without Dijacks. Mike Vic didn't even throw touchdowns. He pre-preferred not to. He ran for them, but except for when he had Deshawn Jackson. He...

Average 10 more touchdowns in his career, averaged when he had Deshawn Jackson. Nick Foles had 18 games in his career with Dijax 35 without, 28 touchdowns a year with Dijax, 16 without. Kurt Cousins played exactly 30 games with Dijax, 30 without, averaged 1,000 more yards a season, three more touchdowns a season. James Winston, he didn't really care. I looked at every one of his quarterbacks, and the numbers couldn't have been more identical.

He is who he is. He is James. He doesn't care. But when Fitzpatrick stepped in, he recognized the weapon. That was Deshaun Jackson. He ain't done. He's 32 years old on a fresh contract. Arguably, the number one deep ball tracker, deep ball receiver in football. Possibly. It means a lot to have Deshawn Jackson there, which, by the way, this is a long way of kind of putting two guys together and saying go get Deshaun Jackson late in your draft.

But Wince is an absolute whole double-down guy for me. I absolutely love him. He's a unicorn. Okay. I'll take Deshaun Jackson as a unicorn. That's fine. Okay. But Carson Wins. But if you rode one here, Mike, you believe. You still wouldn't believe? Is his main red? It's rainbow. All right. I'm up next.

I'm going to talk about a huge breakout from this last year. Oh, my goodness. George Kittle. Fantasy hero. Oh, put on the cake. Fantasy superstar. Oh, he's so good. He is a beast of a man. So, New York, what are you doing? Holding or folding? Oh, I would say that as a hold. We've got a row of holds, George Kettle's friends. Okay.

Gonna be folding on George Kittle this year. Hot snakes and hot takes. The beginning of the end for George Kittle. So here's the thing with George Kittal. I think someone said he stinks. I think they said Jimmy G. Oh. They said Jimmy G. Because he's got a better quarterback this year. No, that's just the dude who's ugly. So here's the thing. All right, let's talk about Jimmy Garoppolo. Let's talk about the upgrade at quarterback, right?

Well, last year, in the first three games, he played with Jimmy Garoppolo. And in those games, he averaged 6.6 targets a game versus 8.8 targets without Jimmy Garoppolo. He averaged 63 yards a game with Garoppolo versus 91. He didn't score any touchdowns with Garoppolo versus...

All of his touchdowns than without him. Just finding himself, Jason. Sure, maybe he was just finding himself. Absolutely. He was still a young player. He's grown. He's getting better. He's breaking out. He's winning titles. But if you look at what happened last year, he ended up becoming the de facto only receiver on the team. Even my love for Dante Pettis. Look, Dante Pettis missed games. He didn't catch any balls from the bench while he was injured. None. So when Dante Pettis was out,

When Dante Pettis was out, he averaged four more fantasy points a game without Pettus than with him. Now look at what's going on this season, right? Now you've got an actual healthy offense that can hopefully run the ball. They've got like 700 running backs. Dante Pettis is now the clear-cut wide receiver won. He wasn't last year. You have Debo Samuel, Jalen Hurd. They even drafted another tight-in this year. And so I'm not, look, please don't.

hear what I'm not saying. They're wrapped in another tight end. I am not saying. Stop. I try to sneak that one in there. That's not good. I know. That was worthless. A real Dallas Goddard. Yes. You caught me. I suppose you love him too. No. But I do love Dallas Goddard.

I'm on record. So the thing is, is this is not a bust pick. I'm not saying George Kittles. I have George Kittle as my number three tight in. I'm guessing at the end of the year he's going to be the number three tight end. I'm saying for where he is being drafted right now, if he finishes as the number three tight end, you're going to be disappointed. You're going to regret not getting a wide receiver two or a running back two with your third pick. He's in the top half of the third round. So this is a soft fold?

This is like a very casual, like, I'll play the next hand. Look, this is, I've got an ace deuce in my hand. Okay, that's, a lot of people are like, oh, man, that's great. I've got an ace. Are we? And then the flop comes, and there's another ace. And so you're betting big, you're betting that third round pick. Except your other cards are two, and someone else's got a better kicker, and you lose. For all my Texas Holden fans out there, that made sense. Jason, let me save you. So you're passing on George Kittle in the third.

because obviously just a handful of rounds later, there's a tight end who wears a blue jersey that you're going to select. I assume that to be true, right? Look, I will take Evan Ingram a whole lot more than George Kittle. Pander Bear, Pander Bear. I love you all. That's the Giants Blue he's wearing. You are darn right. Look, as of right now, George Kittles being drafted in a sandwich between A.J. Green and Keenan Allen.

If you're taking George Kittle over those two players, you're going to be disappointed. Or swing for the pick players behind him, like Aaron Jones and Marlon Mack. Yeah, I'd rather have Aaron Jones. Look at the efficiency, right? Like, he was great this year. But he was not just great. He was historically efficient. His yards after the catch-it tied in, the best that has ever been tracked. Three yards over expectation. Look, that means, sure, he can get a 70-plus yard touchdown breakaway. We know we can do it. We've seen it before. Yeah, it was nice. I liked it.

But he's probably not going to do that multiple times again next year because that doesn't happen. Well, and Pettis might be doing it in one game or Dibo or somebody else. It's pretty hard to break records every year. It's kind of like a 50 touchdown season from Peyton. He's still a great fantasy quarterback, but you have a different kind of year between 50 touchdown seasons unless they all get hurt again. This room, you can have your George Kittle. All right.

I'll draft whoever you leave to me. All right. All right. I'm going to jump in here. He'll take Ingram later. I want to talk about a running back, a running back who's being selected either at the very end or the very end of the first round or the very beginning of the second round. He was an absolute waiver-wire savior. He was a sensation. The things worked out for this running back. You didn't think you were going to need him.

This team didn't think they were going to need him, and all of a sudden they did, and he came through in a big way. I'm talking about James Connor from the running back from the Pittsburgh Steelers. Are we holding or are we folding? I don't know. That's a hole. The words really sound similar. He's not that old. Here's my argument for James Connor. It's a two-parter. One part.

Pittsburgh Steelers, one part James Connor, peanut butter jelly, the sandwich is delicious. I eat it, I'm full, I'm nutritionalized. That's a new word for everybody. You're getting your nutrition for peanut butter and jelly sandwiches? You're done right. There's so much sugar in protein. We're good, bro. Don't worry about it. Look, in the last five years, last five, Levi-on Bell was the Steelers leading rusher.

Three times. In those years, they ranked second, seventh, and third, and total offensive yards. So at worst, they top seven offense. That's pretty good. They ranked seventh, tenth, and eighth, and offensive points. Also pretty good. Levion Bell must be the engine that runs the Pittsburgh Steelers. Oh, weird, because there were two years where Levian Bell wasn't the leading rusher. We're talking about DeAngelo Williams. In that season, DeAngelo Williams, who had...