Fantasy Time Machine + Jacobs in Jeopardy? - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/28

all right so we found some candidates for the oh wow yes jason i i i want tank to it's just such a shame i feel like you're talking about my guy last year yes yeah yeah that's who we're talking just one year early this whole gag you're doing you know what really sucks about it it's not on the show it's funny yeah the problem is is now the comments it's like

He's, Trevo's now my guy. Even better. Even better. And I think some people are not sure if it's a truth or a lie. It's true. Okay. But here's the thing for your perspective, Andy, is you have four shots at my guys. Yeah. Yeah, it really works for you. If Tank Bigsby does something great this year or Henderson does something great. You're not going to claim that? I would. I guess that's better than giving Jason credit. All right. Finding the 2026 Trevor Lawrence.

So what made him great last year? Looking at Horseboy. Insane second half run made him in every week start. His ADP last year was QB21 ended up as the quarterback four. We're looking for a quarterback drafted outside the top 12, so that's prerequisite number one. Either upgraded options in terms of weapons or a change at offensive coordinator, Liam Cohen making the big impact there. And maybe he runs enough to be a fantasy difference maker, at least fill in some of the gap, right? You want somebody that can.

That doesn't have to Peyton Manning, right? You can fill in some of the gap with the legs. Am I going first again? No, I'll hop in. Okay. Because I didn't like mine filling in last time. Get it out of the way. But I like mine. This one. Oh, you do? Yeah, I do. Because of the tumult of the off season. Can I step out for this one? Do I have to be a part of the... You can at least take your ears out so you don't have to hear it. Kyler Murray, the new quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings, is...

I think a much better fantasy pick. He's currently being drafted as the quarterback 17. He is mobile. He rush as well. 55. 55% of all of his 82 career starts have been top 12 quarterback performances. Now you've got a change of scenery. Now you've got an upgraded offensive mind. I mean, when he had Cliff Kingsbury, he was really, really good for fantasy. Things got worse and worse as his career went on as he got injured.

He is now a year removed from the ACL injury. He has Justin Jefferson in a great receiving core. He has a really good offensive mind. And I don't think he's done. He's certainly not like an age where you're like, well, he can't play anymore. So I think he's dumb. Nice.

I said, D you in, Andy. Oh, yes. Done. So where he's being drafted right now in the 13th round is the quarterback 17. It feels he can easily, when I look at the late round quarterbacks, who could pop into the, you know, be a top six option. He is one of a few that just easily stand out to me is I can totally see how that happens. Yeah, I totally agree. It's difficult, though, of.

It's been... I don't want to agree. It's been a long time since Kyla Murray has done. And yes, he has, you know, you can say, okay, the skill position players at Minnesota are better than what he had in Arizona because Jefferson is that great. He at least, I mean, he had Trey McBride and he had Jerry Rice on the team. He just didn't throw him the ball. And last year...

you know, in his five healthy games, he was averaging 35 rushing yards a game and yet never finished as a top 15 quarterback. Like he was giving you, he gave you a baseline of rushing and the other stuff was just so not there statistically that he wasn't anything more than a QB2. I mean, he fits all the, he fits all the like characteristics of somebody who, if he just plays competently, he's pretty good for fantasy.

But when you said that like 55% of his games, he was above this mark, I was like, and were 92% of those his first half of his career? It's just, what is the true Kyler-Marie now? Obviously, they made the decision early. Like, this is going to be the dude. And I think Jefferson said, this is going to be the dude. I remember us watching film. It's so hard to remember, like going week by week last year.

When Kyler was playing a couple weeks into the season, a month, five weeks into the season, we kept watching this Arizona Cardinal scheme and seeing them basically try to get the ball to Marvin Harrison, except they just ran him down the field so long where he didn't turn around. You remember watching this, Andy? And it was like, what are we doing? Like, you're not scheming anyone open. You're, you didn't have someone to pass to. You're more of a, like a petzing blaming of Kyle Murray. Correct. You think that the Kevin O'Connell fixes it? I do.

I do. I really do. Honestly, I think we have so much history of Arizona Cardinals players who are good, who flame out here, go to someone else to another team and they're like, oh, wow, they're really, really good. The Cardinals organization is not a serious organization. Agreed. I thought you thought it was. I have never thought that. How dare you? We think they're unserious. All right, I'm jumping in. Unfortunately, a Jordan Tyson injury has.

made me have to at least pull back a bit of my love for for tyler shuck but i think that he's the answer to this question if you you know especially if you're like hey second half if jordan tyson is back by the second half then oh my gosh i'm going to be very interested in tyler shuck who is being drafted as the quarterback 22 despite last year weeks 14 through 18 and like and remember tyler shuck

didn't start playing until like halfway through the year. Weeks 14 through 18, so we're talking a five game span to end the season, completing 70% of his passes, giving you 27 rushing yards per game. That's not an elite level, but that's perfectly fine, give you a nice little boost to the floor. And he was averaging 20 fantasy points per game, which all that stuff I talked about, Kyla Murray, he never hit 20 in that time period last year for the Arizona Cardinals.

among 28 rookie quarterbacks over the past five years who qualify, so they have had 100 or more pass attempts. Second and completion rate, fourth in passing yards per game, sixth in yards per attempt, and he's got Kellan Moore who kicks the pace up. We get extra plays. He did all of this stuff without Jordan Tyson. He still has Olave. He still has Joanson at the beginning of the season to be what I would assume is the number two weapon. And then...

if Jordan Tyson can get back. I think that Tyler Shuck becomes a quarterback WaverWire pickup that someone picks up week six or so for a streaming option. And you're like, oh, that was pretty good. Oh, that was pretty good. And then we just ride it till the end of the season. I believe so much in the prospect of Tyler Shuck becoming a true franchise quarterback. Well, it would be fun. I mean, we need some new icons of the quarterback position for the next.

10 years and I'd love to see that team in Kellen Moore and those receivers have that talent. You know, the schedule looks all right and I'll be curious. They are such a fun offense. I really hope it works out because just like you're saying, Andy, it's like be so good for the NFL to look at the Saints as like, oh, I want a piece of that. I am going with Baker Mayfield as my pick here for the 2026 version of Trevor Lawrence, who in my opinion,

Trevor Lawrence might have been. He was reversed Trevor Lawrence last year. I was going to say, Trevor might have been the 2025 version of Baker Mayfield. That's what's funny about it. Baker was the quarterback three in 2024. He also ran for 378 yards. And we were, remember all lost last off season? You're like, he's not running for that amount of yards again. Yeah, he did. I mean, did. He ran for more. He ran for 382 yards. I think you can look at Baker and understand that this guy.

is going to take off. He is shiftier than he looks and finds his way down the field. I mean, he literally ran for more yards per attempt. It's good because he kind of looks like a potato. I know. A slippery potato though. Yeah, I mean, it's been peeled. A slippery potato, Baker Mayfield. But look, he has that capability. I'm a potato. Baker was the quarterback for last year through the first six weeks. Oh. So he was right back on, he was the MVP candidate. Then you get Evans injury.

Abuka injury, Baker injury, line injuries, and it fell apart. And, you know, you've got Baker playing. I mean, who wears their emotions and their grudges on their shoulder more than Baker Mayfield? Yeah, he's great. He's presently disrespected and undervalued and not under contract for next season. And week one matchup at Cincinnati, 51.5 over under? I think these guys are going to, I mean, maybe he just takes it back. You know, if he was, if Lawrence was the 2024.

Baker, then Baker might be the 2026 Lawrence. That is my pick for the fantasy time machine. I like it. We will take one more break here and then we're going to try to find the 2026 version of Jerry Rice. Look, no one wants to be just another guy, not in fantasy and definitely not in your career. The good news?

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Good about that? I am feeling good about Adams, not those numbers, but I'm feeling good about Adams because I just, if he's healthy, I don't know how he doesn't score a bunch. That's whether he's great elsewhere. But no, the 2026 Jerry Rice, Mike, I don't know if you remember. It's this guy named Michael Wilson. I do remember. Of the Arizona Cardinals. So, you know, you're looking at a non-ro rookie wide receiver that was buried on a depth chart for years. Could break out in 2026. Jason.

You can't know. You can't do this to my heart? I don't even know who Jason picked. I'll get mine out of the way. Okay. Don't look. Because I feel like mine fits the mold for. Yours is the best. I want to put in your name again. I'm not going to scroll down because I don't want to know who Jason's is. Yeah. This is non-rooky wide receiver buried in the debt chart. Could break out if given opportunity, but has never really done it. Last year, Michael Wilson was undrafted. Finish as the wide receiver 11.

The name I'm going to bring up. You like mine, Jason? I do. I literally went in the dock to put in this name. Both Monty and Jaylon. Yeah. That's good. It's Jalen Koker. Wide receiver for the Carolina Panthers. Basically undrafted, if not, if he's drafted, it's 13th, 14th round. Did you know that he had four top 24 finishes in his final seven games, Jailen Koker? He's a very, very good player. And he's back and he's healthy and he was rewarded with a three-year contract extension. A lot of you are like, who is that?

because our producer may have said his name wrong at one point in time. But Jalen Coker is just, he's just one of those guys you watch play. Changed the vowel sound. Yeah, vowels. I've learned Val's very. They're pretty important. Vows are effective when it comes to what impact they have on speech. I think that Jalen Coker is going to be in every down player all year long. He's always shown the talent. He's dealt with injuries. He's completely undrafted. And if the.

I know Bryce Young is there, but look, nobody expected what happened last year with Michael Wilson. That's the point, right? You don't expect the math to math. Of course. But I think Jalen Coker has a chance to be that super, this is what you're talking about at the top about what kind of sleepers you have to find them. Yes. You need to find a guy who, you know, 100, like almost 100% probability is that he fails. Right. But I think Coker is a really talented player and I think the team bought in.