Ride or Die + Crucial Start/Sit Decisions, TNF Preview - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/30

What's up, Foot Clan? Great show for you today. We're going to be jumping into Ride or Die. I was perfect last week. What do you expect? And then we're going to talk some NFL news, Thursday night preview, mailbag. Got some important questions to answer. And at the end of the show, a very interesting twist on this week's Draft Kings Challenge. The Fantasy Footballer Studio is brought to you by Samsung Galaxy. Visit Samsung.com to learn more. Hey, this is Austin Eccler, and you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. To the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in. Welcome to Wednesday, November 30th. The Fantasy Footballers Podcast, two-man show today. Mike, the fantasy hit me in. Don't know where he is. Can't find him. No, we were looking.

for him all morning. We decided we've got to record this show. I checked the fridge and a couple of the waste bins, not there. Under the dormant. A lot of times that's a place people leave stuff valuable. Right. And they could not find him. I checked the bathrooms. Did you, Brooks? That's usually where he is. Yeah. Well, that's that's, that's, but my understanding is more your domain. Yeah, that's kind of my. Home base. Can't tag me while I'm there. But yeah, he should be back and found on Monday. Yeah. So Michael, Michael be out for a couple days. Don't worry about it. We got you. Jason Moore is here. And Jay Gris holding it down. Yeah. I mean, his bears didn't have Justin Fields out there this past week. And, well, that hurt. Yeah, they said no problem. We could still lose. Yeah.

We have a fun show today. The current Megalobole leader, by the way, bow dogs. Bo dogs. 23-1-0, 1936 points. So in the mix, as we head towards the fantasy football playoffs. Funny story. My sister never had an interest whatsoever in, to my knowledge, in the NFL, really, sports, fantasy football. gets convinced to join a fantasy league at the beginning of the year by her boyfriend. It has overtaken her. Really? Yes, she is now. I get texts from my little sister. She shows up at, we had a family like card night on Sunday. She shows up first two words out of her mouth with more excitement in her face than I could imagine.

Josh Jacobs. Oh my goodness. That would be so amazing. So she's all in. And I think it's the winning, right? Like she's winning the league. Oh, for sure. That helps. She's winning the league. So she's listening. She's listening to the show. Obviously. You said she's winning. Yeah. And, but yesterday. Yesterday, she, uh, she learned something new about fantasy football. That there are playoffs. Because she said, I go, I hope you're ready for ultimate pain. You know, you've dominated. I think she has one loss on the year. She's got, you know, Jacobs and Henry and this great team. She just thinks it's a shoeing to win. And I go, I go, get ready for the ultimate fantasy football, you know, stress because the playoffs are coming. She goes, wait, if I do great all year long, that doesn't mean anything. Well, it means you get in the playoffs like bodogs over here. So, um, but bo dogs?

The Shark from 3D, from Jaws 3D. And also shout out to Skunk League, who is the highest scoring 24 and O team in the Megalodon, Megalabole is what we call it. Y'all going to lose. So enjoy your ride. This was great. You're going to get to the playoffs. But I'm calling my shot right now. I'm taking the field. Versus those three. Versus those three, especially because. I'm going to be one of those. You're part of the field. I'm part of the field. So I'm coming for y'all. Spotify live. Jason and I will be in the party room today. 3 p.m. Pacific, 6 p.m. Eastern over on Spotify. Make sure you listen in, tune in. It'll be fun. That's Thursday night preview today. Got news to talk about ride or die. We're going to be diving into the mail bag. Jam packed. Jam packed show. So jam packed that we added a quick question. All right. Quick question is, who should make the Mount Rushmore?

of tough players to start or sit this year now jason i have four answers from the footclan the highest uh the most popular answers okay on instagram but i am i'm curious if you agree with them or if you have some from your own list uh the the four that they gave were courtland sutton which i Super agree. I super agree. He's the one that makes my personal Mount Rushmore off of this list. Okay. And then Gabe Davis was another one. Alvin Camara, which, look, I just happen to not have any Alvin Camara shares in any league. So I don't think I relate to that one, but I get it. Like we've seen the numbers, the offense, everything. And then DJ Moore, who tantalizes.

into your lineup and then destroys you. Yeah, he's always been a tough one. But it's been a lot easier to sit him this year than in years past. I would say after a couple weeks, it was pretty easy to just put him on the bench. And if he, you know, one out of every four weeks has a good game. You're okay with it on the bench or on the waivers even. You had the, they had the PJ Walker resurgence, though, that brought him back into lineup. Well, right. Like right now, he's experiencing the Sam Darnold resurgence. Ah. That's going to bring him back into lineups incorrectly. Um, the number one for me when I was making my Mount Rushmore, it's Taysom Hill. Tassum Hill. Sure. Is someone that.

You feel like you absolutely have to start. And there's good reason for it. He can do what no one else at the position could do. Which is cheap. But if you started him every single week, I'm pretty sure you have made massive mistakes because... He's hard because he's in the position of need. Right. So he's at tight end where it's like you can justify bad performances and then you're stuck in that spot where, okay, now his snap counts are up. So... It's always a story. Yeah, if he was a wide receiver or not necessarily scoring as a wide receiver, but like if there were as many options available as there are a wide receiver, I mean, nobody would be considering putting someone like Tayson Hill in their lineup just because he can do big things that is so infrequent that that would be my number one. I'd chisel a couple faces up there. Okay, let's hear him. Kyle Pitts, let's not forget that struggle. Oh, yeah.

You know, in memorandum. Yeah. And then Brian Robinson, who I feel like you got him. You thought you had a starting running back. You kind of do sometimes. You kind of don't. I never know when the matchups. He seems to play well in different matchups than you expect. You got another face to chisel up there? I have two more faces that I would want chiseled. One is Deontay Johnson. because he hasn't been good, but he's great. And so it's tough. You go, well, he's so good. He's getting open. He's getting the targets. He's doing, you know, I drafted him highly. You would have rather played DJ Moore all year than Deontay Johnson, right? You probably get a couple wins that you wouldn't have. I don't think Deontay Johnson's floor being, you know, above five points really makes the difference between DJ Moore's bad games, whether you win or lose, whereas DJ Morris had a couple.

week winning performances. And then the other one is Devonsa Smith, who I think is... Oh, that's a great one. So talented. He's so good. I continue starting him. I start him every week now that, you know, I traded for him a couple weeks ago. And I'm fine with them. I'm fine taking my lumps. But it's always like, you're not... It's just pretty inconsistent. It's the only way to... handled Devante Smith, I think. I mean, it's two years in a row where if you don't take that approach, you will be living in misery because you got to take the bad with the good. You know, I think that takes him kind of awe. Maybe he isn't really the hardest to start, because that's the same with Gabe Davis. Like Gabe Davis and DeVonte Smith are players that you, it's not really a difficult decision. You start them because you want the massive performances. You're disappointed sometimes.

But it's not at the level of a DJ Moore or a Tassam Hill where the majority of their performances are bad. You just need to take the lumps to get the spoonfuls of sugar. Okay, yeah. I agree. And you hope that they're not your, honestly, I hope they're not my wide receiver two. No. You want them to be a flex, wide receiver three. Let's do some ride or die. Ride or die, presented by Chevrolet. Last week, yours truly was perfect. Ride, ride, die. That was great. Almond Ross St. Brown has a top 18 wide receiver finished at three. Zeke scoring a touchdown. Jason and I and Mike were all in on that on Thanksgiving, and he did. And then we got the layup with the Juan Johnson top 10 tight in. He was tight in 69. That's what I was going to. So Mike went down on that one. That was a funny one because we said.

I believe you and I said you can move on wherever you want. We're going to choose against it. And Mike is contractually obligated to select. Yeah, yeah. He can't quit them, uh, Saints tight ends, not named Haysom Hill. Week 13 ride or die predictions. Brooks has put some together for us, Jason. Alvin Camara. What do you got for us? All right, guys at Tampa Bay. Will he hit 10 fantasy points and half PPR. Okay. Okay. He hit. 10.9 last week, is that right? That was two weeks ago. Last week against San Francisco, he had four, three weeks ago against Pittsburgh. He had six. Four weeks ago against Baltimore, he had seven point seven. So I completely understand why this line is where it's at. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are a good defense. They are not the otherworldly shut down defense against running backs that they were the last two seasons, but they are still.

a very difficult matchup currently on the season ranked number four. I feel so disrespectful to Alvin Camara to not ride with a measly 10-point line for him historically, and yet I won't. I'm going to, this is such an important game for Tampa Bay. Yeah. Coming off the loss, which was a comeback win by Cleveland, it's at home. I'm going to, I'm going to go die. All right. I am going to ride. I'm going to ride not because I think Camer has a special game, but because I believe that he is involved enough to get 10. This line is really good. This line is an easy one to pick and say, gosh, he's got to have 10 fantasy points. Last week, he did not get 10 fantasy points. He had seven targets for six receptions and finished with four fantasy points. That was because two.

fumbles in the game. I don't think that happens this week. I am riding on a 10 point line with Alvin Kamara. Yeah, if he gets into the end zone at the one yard line last week, he hits that line. Easily because that's an eight point swing. It's just crazy. Three of the last four weeks. Yeah. It would be die. Amari Cooper, which is, he's a really interesting game this week. Against Houston with Voldemortic quarterback, I was staring him down in DFS. Uh-huh. for a long time trying to decide because it seems like the right matchup, but you just don't know where Mr. Watson is going to be. What's the line you set it at, Brooksie? Top 12, Fantasy Whiteout. No. I'm going to go die on this. Yeah, I am going. Dark wizard. He brings a lot of variables in. And you would expect in general that the $200 plus million quarterback.

fully guaranteed would be better than the beef brisket Jacoby Brissette. But you just, you don't know who he's going to target primarily. You don't know that it's going to be Amari Cooper. You don't know that he's not going to be rusty. And against the Houston Texans, we've talked about this, you know, for the last month and a half, two months, you just don't need to pass much. So if it doesn't happen early in the game, Nicholas Chubb should run. all over this team. I believe it could be a rainy game. So I'm going to select die as well. I do not believe that Amari Cooper will be a top 12 fancy wide receiver. And don't forget, this is on the road. And Amari Cooper so far on the road, that them's his bad game. And it's against Houston who shuts down statistically, not actually, quarterbacks and wide receivers. Like they are top six in both categories. And it's just because you don't.

Need it. Yeah. Once you're up two scores and it's over. The second quarter, you just run the ball a little more, just a little more. You still throw the ball. And then you're up three scores and it's the second half. And I was like, I'm just going to run it. And I know that like Mike has been Donovan People's Jones's greatest advocate. Yes. But like you said, the variables of a new quarterback. And I want to. highlight the fact that, and again, it's coming out of a DFS glance. David Bell has had five or more targets in three straight games. Rookies in the second half of the year begin to ascend, and his price in DFS is pennies. So you look at that and say, hey, does he have a new favorite target for some reason? I don't think it's impossible with the snap counts the highest of the year, the targets the highest of the year that David Bell could emerge.

over the back half of the year. I really liked David Bell as a third round rookie dynasty pick because of Voldemort and the future. Oh, he's the new Bell Tolan. I get it. I'm just giving it a go. It's his name. I mean, math checks out. All right. So we're both out on Cooper. Tyler Lockett against the Rams. Brooks wants to know will he score a touchdown? because he's done it in four straight games. It's so good. I don't know if you saw last week, Mr. D.K. McCaff had 15 targets, 11 receptions in that game. It was a shootout with the Raiders. I feel like I can't bet on a touchdown. You're Mr. Touchdown. If anyone can bet on a touchdown, it's you. You have the site.

I've got to follow my instincts here. I think it's a no. Well, then I'm definitely a no. Okay. At that point, I don't question the wizard. I don't think so. I don't think he gets in there. Four straight games. I love this. So that means we've got a lot writing this week on Alvin Camara. He's really our writer. All right. You're right about that, Mr. Moore. It makes me want to know if we should change another one, but we can leave it. We can move on. That was writer. I presented by Chevy Silverado. Learn more about Chevy Silverado at Chevy.

News and Notes from Around the League. Presented by USAA Insurance. How much progress did we make on you yesterday, Jason, with regards to making you a national soccer fan? A lot of progress. A lot of progress. I expect to be a national soccer fan every four years. That's it. That works for you, right? Oh, that works for me, baby. If you only had to watch three baseball games every four years. Would you be a baseball fan? I do watch three baseball games every four years, probably. The World Series? Yeah, like if there's a game seven something, baseball. That's what this is. This is like infinite game sevens in the World Cup. Yes, baseball sucks. But any sport, any activity with something so weighty where every moment matters, it doesn't matter. It could be a hammering wood competition. I agree. If the stakes are as high as they are in the World Cup,

You just got to watch and wonder at all these human beings doing everything in their power, their life's work for this moment. It's just amazing to watch. You can't be a sports fan if you don't like those things. I agree. The word I used to describe to my kids last night as to why it was worth watching is gravity. The gravity of the situation, it doesn't matter what it is. I'll watch anything. My youngest came home last night. He told me that in their class they... Turned open the end of the game. That's what they spent their time doing. I did hear people were getting pulled out of school. Kids were getting taken out to watch that game. I mean, just put them in a school where they watch the games there. There you go. You found it. All right. Aaron Rogers told the Pat McAfee show that he got good news with his scans. He plans on playing this week against the Bears. Okay. Did you see his press comments where they said, where do you guys go from here? Or where do you go from here? And he said, home. Took it very literally.

So Rogers back out there. I think Christian Watson is your lock right now. He's just on fire. Yeah. Doug Peterson. Oh, go ahead. Against the bears, you just expect that there will be value to be had. You can't bench Christian Watson right now. Do we have an update on Najee Harris yet? I am seeing something from Ian Rappaport saying his status is up in the air still reevaluated with the abdominal injury. Did not suffer a major injury, Rapid Port is saying, but we don't know about this week yet. So it's still early. I've got to be honest with you. I'm real nervous every time I say abdominal.

Oh, I know, because you messed it up early in the season. And it became, oh, 100% I can tell. Because I'm worried about the abominable snowman. Absolutely. The indomitable injury is a real problem for you. No, I, you know, we've all got our things. You want to know one of my things? It's like you with other words. Right. Yes, it's like me with other words. You know, understand what it's like to live my life. Yeah. When abdominal injuries come up. There's always a little pause before I say it. Like, can I get this right? Mine? Yeah. Mine is Pickett and Pickens. Oh, yeah, I noticed that. My brain cannot. You can't do it. Every single time we're talking about the Steelers, and I want to mention one of them, I can't, my brain goes, blah. One of those names picks. That's what I'm telling you. I black out, and I can't talk about these players. I just need to start using full names.

Because if I say Kenny Pickett or George Pickens, that's fine. But if I just start with Pick, my brain goes to mush. You did that with McDaniel? Uh-huh. McDaniels for quite a while. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it happens. Got a lot of these names. They're tough. It's like the Ghostbusters streams are crossing. Yeah, yeah. Exactly like that. Doug Peterson said Wednesday that he expects Travis E.T.N. to play Sunday against the Lions. One week too late, brother. For you, for you, yes. For most other ETN managers, that's great news. The matchup against the Lions is, you know, great for fantasy points. They've been better against running backs lately. I did realize this year that the only thing worse than having your players injured is doing the plethora of injuries early in the game. Oh, yeah. Like, if I lose them midweek, that sucks.

If you lose them at the end of a game also sucks. Whatever. Yeah, but you got a game. Yeah, I realized they had five guys that I started that got hurt before they scored fantasy points. That's a bad feeling. Naji Harris, like we said, not a major injury. So the waiver show that we did yesterday talking about Benny Snell, Jalen Warren's hamstring situation, continue to monitor. You know, your waivers are probably gone through by the time you're listening to this. But maybe if you took Jason's approach yesterday, which was minimal bids on a lot of players, you're not out of luck. Speaking of the waiver wire and players that still might be available, the athletics Matt Barrows believes Tevin Coleman could be the one to play a big role in the 49ers backfield when Elijah Mitchell is gone. We talked about the fact that Jordan Mason was the next guy up.

but he's a special teamer. And that doesn't necessarily mean he gets the shot. It could be Ty Davis Price. We didn't really bring up Tevin Coleman because he's on the practice squad. But having this report, waivers could go and could clear. And Taven Coleman in a lot of these leagues isn't going to be picked up. I've had such a hard time with this one. Because I know the team loves Ty Davis Price and because of the special team situation, he wasn't active. But like if I had to make a bet now, right now, and total touches? I would go Price Coleman Mason. I would behind McCaffrey. Behind McCaffrey. I would go Coleman first now. I really would. I know Shanahan's got a history of doing stuff like this and, you know, call it loyalty or call it ego. I'll call it ego, where the glory is his if he takes the, you know, the fourth string older guy. And we've seen Kevin Coleman pushed into action before.

So I would go Coleman Price Mason. We both have Mason at the bottom, though, which means he's the dude. Unless you look at him too long and then he, yeah. Daniel Bellinger supposed to be back for the Giants. Oh, really? I actually think that sort of matters. They don't have a lot of pass catchers. He's pretty talented. He was off to a great start. A rookie tight end looked the part. It seemed necessary to the offense. I was starting to use him in DFS and then it was an unfortunate eye injury. I didn't realize he was back. This year. I thought he was on the shelf. That's great. And then the Jets signed Jonathan Ward of the Practice Squad, you know, Michael Carter's ankle injury, more depth at the position. That was today's news and notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance. Thursday night breakdown. Get ready to watch the Patriots in primetime. They're going to have back-to-back primetime games. They play this Thursday.

and then they play Monday night football when the Cardinals return to embarrass themselves on prime time. That would be back to back to back, right? Didn't they play on Thanksgiving? Yeah. A lot of Mac Jones up in there. Primetime Patriots. Look, if they do what they did on Thanksgiving going forward, then they are allowed to be in prime time because they put up a ton of points. Mack Jones was great. Ramandre's been great. So let's have some good offense here. And the bills have done their part on their defensive injuries. to ensure that the Patriots can actually move the ball. It does seem that way, and the game is in New England. The Drafking Sportsbook line has Buffalo minus four. The overrunners 43 and a half. Not a ton. Who did you take in this one? I took New England. I went on the bill side, but I was really him and on here. Yeah. Yeah, we've got our little office pool going on. Pretty tight at the top. Very, very tight. So this is a pretty big game right now. I believe the Patriots are sitting outside the playoff picture.

and the bills are incredibly the five seed right now. Is that true? Yeah, because they're second in the division. That's right. So you would have the chiefs in the one seed, the dolphins, then the Titans, then the Ravens, then the Bills. Interesting. The bills feel like a powerhouse, but right now their position is not. Such. Yeah, their defense has real – I mean, at the beginning of the year, they had what I believed was the best offense in the NFL and the best defense in the NFL. And their defense week by week has lost another key piece, another component. And right now – Yvonne Miller for a while. Yeah, I mean, they have had a lot of defensive line injuries recently and then a couple more of this last week. Their secondary was already beat up. So this is a –

This is kind of what you want for fantasy. You want great offense, bad defense. Like what we've seen from the dolphins and the lions and I think what we're going to see for at least a couple more weeks here from the Bills. Yeah, the Bills defense has struggled. You haven't seen it proportionally affect Josh Allen in a good way, though, where Alan has had, you know, it's been a while since he's had monster performances. The elbow hopefully getting back into shape. You're going to play him. You're going to play Diggs. Gabe Davis, since the by week, only one top 30 finish, he is risky business. It's going to depend on your options. I don't think you have to play Gabe Davis every week. It's just depending on your choices. Like Zay Jones against Detroit in a great matchup. Such a good matchup. I can't, I would be playing him over Gabe Davis. Yeah, I mean, to me, this is completely a matter of your team, right? If you're loaded and you are the favorite in the matchup, I'm going to play Zay Jones because I think his floor is certainly higher.

But if I'm going to shootout, if I'm playing against a great team, I'm going to have Gabe Davis in my lineup because he can do what Zay Jones will do once or twice in a career. Gabe Davis will do it four or five times this year. Isaiah McKenzie is somebody that we said, you know, he's an option, probably not somebody you want to chase. Dawson Knox had the down week last week after a good week. There is a bit of a... Sometimes it's Gabe, sometimes it's McKinsey, sometimes it's Davis, sometimes it's Singletary beyond the digs. Yeah, I mean, one of the interesting players in this game, he's on my League of Record roster. He is currently on my bench where I imagine he will stay.