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Live 12 Team Mock + Rankings Renovations

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He's still in the tier with Kelsey and Hertz to me. And you're at 507. You can get an elite tight in that's finished inside the top three before. Cam Newton's number one weapon. I would go Greg Olson here. Over the risk of Royce Freeman, you get a guaranteed start of Royce Freeman right now. There's a chance you can't flex Royce Freeman through the first three or four or five weeks. And that's not even the worst case scenario. I accepted despite my hyperbolic. The only reason that I would...

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perhaps not draft Royce Freeman is my love of Carryon Johnson, who I think is just as good. But this is way too early. It is, that's my point. I have the same mindset with Carry on that I would have with Royce Freeman. My point is only it's worse with Kerry. This is way too early for Carry on. He will actually get back to us next round. His average draft is usually the seventh. So I feel we could get a Royce Freeman type talent.

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later in the draft is my point. So I would be okay. The difference between the two guys for me is Royce Freeman has a job, has an opportunity to start week one. I do not see a world besides injury where Kerry on Johnson is starting. You don't have to, you don't have to speculate, though, about Greg Olson. There's no speculation. There's a chance you're not starting. You want to draft your flex in the sixth round?

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All right, here's what I was. My pick would be Marvin Jones. So ironically, you would take Royce Freeman. I would take Marvin Jones is fine. I would take him over Greg Olson for sure. All right. We've settled on none of them. All right. If you can't have it, I can't have it. Marvin Jones. That's how Marvin Jones gets drafted by the way. Poor Marvin. Nobody targets Marvin Jones. Yeah, I got some news for you. Got great news. Royce Freeman come back around? Nope.

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No, he did not. But Greg Olson did. And I was going to say in this mock world, I don't usually take a fifth or sixth round tight in. I think there's good quality players there. Greg Olson's usually gone. In the sixth round, doing a mock, if Greg Olson is there, I think we should take him, see how our team turns out. Royce Freeman went at 511. Then Brady wins in Breeze, a quarterback run at 512, 62, and 605. And you know why those quarterbacks went so that we could draft?

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If we could take Greg Olson. Are you feeling more comfortable with Greg Olson here, Mike? I'm more comfortable in this round. Over Evan England, Kyle Rudolph. Knowing that we have two and three. Okay. If we got to come back with a running back after that. Carry on Johnson gets back to us. This is the greatest, you know, just everything happening.

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Perfectly. I have accepted. I've come to terms with our team is drafting Greg Olson here. I just want to know. Come on, carry on. Get back. Get back. I would not take Greg Olson right here. Marlon Mack with Carry on. Carry on. If you didn't notice out there, listeners. That was intense in my heart. Look, I like it. Greg Olson, immediately followed by Evan Ingram and then Kyle Rudolph.

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Davis and Fuller went in that round, wild cards. Wilson, Tariq Cohen, Lynch, Mack, Edelman, Coleman, Carry on Johnson. Here we are, Cam Newton, and we're on the clock. I think we need to be looking hard at the running back position, getting best value at that position. Right now, there is Carlos Hyde. There is Isaiah Crowell, a starter. CJ Anderson, a player that I think is undervalue.

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Completely agree. You could choose your favorite Green Bay running back, Aaron Jones, Time, Montgomery, or Jamal Williams. You know, all of those are true, but I don't think there's a huge tear break between a lot of those guys. Like, if you told me you wanted Carlos Hyder, Isaiah Crowell, I see them in similar-ish situations. So where are you leaning right now, then? Well, I mean, I'm leaning that maybe taking Royce Freeman was the right pick a little bit earlier.

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That's kind of how it feels or carry on instead of Greg Olson. But because we went to the seventh round now before grabbing our third running back. We're feeling the pinch of having a higher rated tight in. Right. No doubt. Would we rather draft a safe, you know, player like Emmanuel Sanders or Pierre Garsohn or someone, you know, that's gotten it done before and then try to get whoever's left in that tier? Or do we just take our favorite running back? Both are. Well, I let.

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If it were my team alone, I would be looking at established starting running backs right now, which would be Isaiah Crowell, C.J. Anderson would be in consideration because his opportunity is going to be there or taking a chance on one of the Green Bay running backs. What I don't want to do with this pick is waste an opportunity to get somebody that could step up. I'd rather go with some unknown built-in like Isaiah Crowell. And for me, if I was making the pick, we have.

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two stud running backs. Yes. I don't want, I don't want the plotter of Crowell. I would, I would reach for the stars and take an upside guy here. Aaron Jones? I would take Rex Burkhead. That was the player that I was thinking, you know, I did a fantasy pros expert mock. I reached for Rex Burkhead. If he ends up, the goal line guy. I do. And sorry, to be fair, my rankings, I have Crowell.

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one spot ahead of Birkhead. Well, yeah. So it's team management situation. I would rather have Burkhead who, Jason, I interrupted you. I apologize, but you were saying reports are when they get in the 20, that could be Rex Burkhead's job. And if that's all he's getting, if he's getting 10 to 15 touches but he's getting all work inside the 20, then Rex Burkhead will still be a low end running back too. I think it's very important to take a running back here.

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I think it is. And I'm okay with Burkhead. All right. I think that's a good pick. I think that Rex Burkhead will have opportunity this year, and I'm fine with it. Carlos Hyde goes next, Delaney Walker, Devin Fonches, Jordi Nelson, Chris Thompson. And then Jamal Williams, the first Green Bay running back off the board, Emmanuel Sanders, Isaiah Crowell, Nick Chubb, Robert Woods, and we're back on the clock. Still have an opportunity, if we want, to draft.

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Not Isaiah Crowell, but C.J. Anderson or Aaron Jones. We have opportunities. Time on Gunner. The right Green Bay running back. We have Piergarsan, Randall Cobb, Jameson Crowder. My pick by far right here would be Robbie Anderson, a player that I believe has top 24, top 20 talent, the number one on that team, a team that Maurice Jones Drew seems to think can go 11 and 5. Oh!

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You have to have seen this. Look, fuckling. We need to, we need to mention it. It's unbelievable. It has to be mentioned. There was, there's a, there's a, there's a network that has MJD going through the wins and losses and has the Jets 11 and 5. I am, Jet Nation, we're coming to visit you. We love you all.

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But you got to know your team's not going 11 and 5. I know that my Arizona Cardinals are not going 11 and 5. I tried to be generous with his win loss and walk through the schedule. And I saw five, six wins was the peak that I saw. MJD had them winning on the road against Jacksonville. He had them winning on the road at home against New England. I didn't see it. But it doesn't matter. Sorry. It doesn't matter. Sorry.

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No, look, opinions are opinions. It was a shocking opinion. That's all I'm saying. Not my tempo. All right. If I was on the clock here, I would, without a shadow of a doubt, take Ty Montgomery. That's not even close. If I've already got three running backs and running backs are spare same kind of roster construction, we've got three solid-wide receivers. But I also think Ty Montgomery has a legitimate shot of coming to us back in the next round. Robbie Anderson, I would be fine taking him and hoping to get Ty Montgomery.

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I think either will come back to us in the next round, to be honest with you. So if we want to play the gamble, let's just play the gamble of... If I were making the pick, I would gamble for Anderson or Montgomery coming back. Mostly for Montgomery coming back because I just don't want them on my team. So let's gamble because I don't want them either. I would take CJ Anderson and try and get Robbie Anderson on the way back. We got the upside running back right before. It's your pick. It's your pick. I would take CJ Anderson.

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All right. I don't mind doubling down on another running back option there, especially Burkhead, whose roles less defined than Anderson's is. Right. I like it. It's the sandwich, right? We got the frosting for the sandwich. I don't know why. Is Rex Burkhead the frosting on the sandwich, Mike? Is that the analogy we're going with? This is delicious. Well, you don't let me finish because it's a peanut butter banana sandwich that has frosting on it. It's a cake.

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Sounds great. It's a cake. For all intense. It's not a dirty cake. No. It's just a regular cake. CJ Anderson. Now, see, we took him. Oh. We saw three more quarterbacks go off the board. Kirk Cousins, Jimmy Garoppolo, Matthew Stafford. You can follow us on YouTube and see every pick from this entire draft. We've still got our Robbie Anderson on the board. He'd by far and away, especially now that we've taken another running back. I would love Robbie Anderson here. I think it's incredible ninth round value.

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And because I'm the host and holding the button, I'm going to make the pick. Oh, yeah. That's absolutely fine. I think Robbie Anderson is the right pick here because we made a mistake and did not take time, Montgomery. But I agree wholeheartedly that Robbie Anderson in the ninth round, that is a very good value. His upside is there as the number one for McCown. Also, Pierre Garsohn went off the board so I don't have to fight you for Garsohn.

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Highlights of the next picks between a Robbie Anderson pick and the 10th round, Corey Clement, right where he has been going, 10th round. DJ Moore, 1002, interesting pick. Time Montgomery, 9-11. Like, I like Time Montgomery, Jason, but you're like your love of him. It's causing me to just pull away. You love him so much that it's like a magnet that you flipped over and now I'm getting...

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pushed away from. I can't even come close to him because it's too offensive. You need to understand. My Tom Montgomery Love is not something where I am sitting here saying I have to have them on my team. You at home need to reach for him. I am saying that when you already have three running backs and they're solid and you want to take a reach and you want to take that flyer, kind of like what we thought about doing with Rex Burkhead, is that.

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Passing targets are worth more than rushing attempts. There is zero doubt to me who the passing downs running back is for Green Bay. It's going to be Thai Montgomery. I want a piece of the Green Bay backfield that is always on a per game basis so productive. So if you already have the ability to take that shot, and, you know, we were talking eighth, ninth round here. We're not talking about, I'm not saying, hey, wouldn't you get to the top of the sixth? Would you have taken him? No, look, your points are always.

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well-crafted, and I don't disagree with the logic. A PPR league, it would have hit me harder. Would you have taken Time Montgomery at 907 over Robbie Anderson if you were alone? No, because we took C.J. Anderson at 806. But in a vacuum. In a vacuum, I would have taken. You still would have taken. I would have taken Time Montgomery ahead of Robbie Anderson if it was not team construction dependent. All right.

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We are sitting here. We have two more binge spots. We need a quarterback as well. Mike, I'm sorry, Jason, why don't you make this next picks in sight? So I'm going to make this one for you two. To me, there's three quarterbacks I still love, which is Philip Rivers, Ben Rothlisberger, and Marcus Marietta. I really like all three of those guys. But I know that the Ben Rathlisberger and Marcus Marietta, that's more me than...

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us. So I'm going to say, let's grab Philip Rivers. We all believe in him. Stack those passing touchdowns to Melvin Gordon. I think that's a great value. That was my pick. I actually think it's a tear gap. I mean, it's a tear gap between Phillip Rivers and picking up Big Ben or Mario, at least by my estimation. I like it. I like it. Big Ben and Patrick Mahomes actually went after Philip Rivers. We also saw a Garrett Blunt, Chris Carson. We're back on the clock. A few picks left. Mike, I'm going to toss it over to you.

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Lay out a couple options and make a pick. So we currently are sitting with four running backs, three wide receivers. We actually have four wide outs. I don't know why it says that. Oh, we do. Philan, Fitzgerald Jones and Robbie Anderson. Because they've got him filled in as the flex play. That is correct. Melvin Gordon, Devont, Freeman, Rexburg, at C.G. Anderson. We're very balanced. We're a beautiful, balanced team. We are definitely a beautiful, beautiful balanced team. We're going all, we're in the mostly dart throw sleeper.

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Yeah. Somebody you want to see make an impact in the first few weeks. I want Jason to pick, but I want Jason. I just want you to remember that I took Philip Rivers. I would have personally taken Ben Rathlisper. I am not taking who I think that you think that I'm going to be selected. Good because you, I think that it would disgust me. Yeah. What do you want? So we're going with upside wide receivers. Just a, just a review.

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