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Week 11 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, Peanut Butter Dwelley Time

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whether they hand it to Burkhead, White, or Michelle. And they're passing a lot. I mean, 47 attempts for Brady. Yeah. Still only 26. And this was against the Eagles. It's a very beatable secondary. So, yeah, extremely disappointing. Yeah, and we'll see what happens with the wide receiver position, too. I mean, Nikiel Harry got in towards the end of that game, three catches. They're trying to find something. Muhammad's the news. Not bringing it home. Jared Gough. Or as I call him, Mitch Trubisky with makeup.

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11 for 18. I'm starting to see it. I mean, he's, he is fine at a very specific thing. And if that thing gets moved to the left or to the right, he's not good. If you can give him some good play action passes with protection, he will sling it downfield and he'll put it where it needs to be. I think he's got great deep ball accuracy when he's protected.

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better than a lot of other good quarterbacks. So he's, you know, maybe he's a one-trick pony, but it's a great trick. Hopefully this new offensive line can protect him. He only threw the ball 18 times. This game was, I am so sorry to everybody who had to watch it. And you, what was funny is you said, why didn't they flex something out earlier and they're flexing next week's game? Yeah. But you knew right away what you were getting into. You want golf against Baltimore next week, Jason?

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Um, at home against Baltimore. I think it is, he, he can be a play. Yes. You, your eyebrows go up like that's an insane thing. I thought I was putting the ball in the tea for you to just. Wind blew it over, buddy. That's very windy. Asinine. That's Asinine. That's Asinine. To play him. So you, Asinine means you don't think he's going to be a top 15 quarterback. I know where you're headed and I'm heading there with you. Waterbed. Our first week 12 waterbed already. Yeah. Listen.

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25 carries for Todd Gurley. The recipe for this team is going to revolve a lot more around Todd Gurley and Jathan Ramsey and managing golfs, you know, Woods, hopefully he's back, probably not going to have cooks. I don't know. It's been a little bit scary. I totally get it. I totally get it. 11 completions. But Chicago's offense is, what defense is playing better right now in the league, Baltimore?

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Okay, no, Baltimore's not at the top. There's several teams playing. They're near the top of recency, yeah. There are several teams playing much better. The Chicago Bears are a pretty darn good defense. The reason that golf only threw the ball 18 times is because Mitchell Trebisky. I mean, they didn't, the Bears didn't score. When you were down by three points, it's like, well, the game's over. Because the Bears can't move the ball. Lamar Jackson's going to score.

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Jared Goff's going to have to throw the ball. And what I saw in this game that made me think, look, the future might be a little bit brighter was that the offense of line that we expected to be even worse than the trash that he had was significantly better than the trash that they had. And this was against a really good bear's front. So if they could protect Goff and Lamar Jackson could score, I think that's... For what it's worth and its fantasy consistency, Baltimore's defense fourth.

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fourth, second, and then the game against Houston, where they, I believe they were. They have to be top five. Yes. So they're on a roll right now. We'll see what happens. It's nice to get an early bet in. And hopefully you have Robert Woods back. We don't know what the reason was, but, you know, last second missing a player who you practiced with was part of the game plan all week. Certainly didn't help golf this week. No question. Running back stank.

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Oh, Brian Hill, you burned. Oh, my goodness. You burned a lot of people. You tell me that Brian Hill is going to get 15 attempts. I'm like, all right, we're all right. Against Carolina. Yeah, Carolina's been giving up top five performances. Then you're going to have a good game. I mean, 60% of snaps, Jay. Yeah, everything that you wanted to happen, game script wise, I mean, the Falcons were up.

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The opportunity was there. The snap counts were there. You know, you talk about process versus results. The process was true here. The results were... 15 for 30. He scored a touchdown, got a called back. You talk about the listener league matchup. We're tied in. Brian Hill and Kyle Allen have a lot to do with that. And I appreciate you. So can you start Brian Hill against Tampa? Tampa's got a great running defense. No. I mean, Tampa, yeah, that's what I was going to say. And then the week after is the New Orleans Saints. I feel like this is...

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Ty Johnson v2. It could be. You might be able to flex Brian Hill if you know he's going to get 60% of snaps. And what sucked is Quadri Olison was in on the play. So he scored a touchdown. Quadri Ellison didn't do much. But he had a touchdown where the offensive line opened a hole so big that I could have hit that hole. And I'm not fast. But Brian Hill just didn't have that single opportunity. No juice. Yeah. Sonny Michelle.

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Oh, man, ugly. James White, bad game. Fornett. This is Fournett's first stinker. Are you worried about it because it's his, you know, Nick Foles comes in. They get beat up. Now, the game script didn't really not conducive for Fournett. Yeah, that's part of what it is. I mean, Leonard Fournett's a guy that is usually getting 20, 25 carries. He had eight, eight carries, but that was because they were down the whole game. He still was involved in the passing game, seven targets. They just weren't able to run the ball.

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So I'm not too worried about Leonard Farnett going forward. Quite a few running backs struggled that we thought might have better weeks. Ronald Jones, Miles Sanders, Tevin Coleman, Rahim Moster. Yeah, I would say that the 49er combo is the one that surprised me. I didn't think Ronald Jones or Miles Sanders were going to have a great game against New Orleans and New England. But the 49ers rushing game has been awesome. Has been awesome. What was that?

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That was me needing the cough and pushing the cop button. Sorry, Jay. You scared Jake Rez. Before I finish speaking. I've never heard a mid-sentence, like a mid-word cough. Yeah, well, it's the newest thing. It's the newest thing to do. Oh, yeah, you pushed the button again. Yeah, I did it again. Can you keep it down? Yeah, no, I'll just keep it down. You and Jay can do the rest of this. But Kyle Shanahan even came out and said it's the first time to his knowledge that he consciously abandoned the run.

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Said it just wasn't working. 12 for 14 was Kevin Coleman. They couldn't. Six for 13 was Rahim Moster. Yeah, a combined, what is that? Combined 27. You did it. I did it. Combined 27 yards against the Arizona Cardinals. 18 carries. Defense. So, you know, and again, Shanahan willingly said after the half, they just stopped.

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I mean, Jimmy Garoppolo was like, oh, this is really easy to throw on them. I was going to say, there's something to be said. You know, you can look at Arizona and say, okay, they're not a great running D, but you don't need to run against them. All you do is throw, and it all works out, especially to the tight-in position or with any form of misdirection. They're an undisciplined defense. They fall forward.

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I tweeted yesterday. Here is the offensive game plan that I saw. Screen, screen, screen, screen, screen, screen, screen, screen, screen, screen, screen, screen, screen, screen, screen, mm-hmm. The Dewelly was a touchdown, right? Yeah, yeah, the Dwellie's always a touchdown. The Dewelly is a touchdown. It's a peanut butter, dwelling time. I knew you'd like that one. AP, 9 for 25. To be honest, Geis didn't have a good game on the ground either, but he had a 45-yard reception at the end of that game for a touchdown.

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going forward, it'll be difficult to know how it breaks down. Well, here's the thing. You don't want either. I mean, it sucks. Maybe that's the... You had nine carries for Adrian Peterson. Adrian Peterson is not the type of running back that's ever going to do anything with nine carries. That's true. You had seven carries for Darius guys. I don't know that Darius guys is going to be the... I mean, is there a back where seven carries is enough? If they're splitting these backs and they're not the pass-catching guy, I mean, I know Geist did have the long reception, but that's not his specialty.

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then I don't think you want either of these on a bad team. All right. I mean, for this show, it feels like David Johnson was active. Zero touches. Did you see his tweet? Yes, I posted his tweet. This morning. Welp. That's his tweet. Welp. dot, dot, dot. Yeah, that could mean a couple different things. It could mean, uh, whoops.

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It could mean sorry. It could mean... No, keep going. Keep going. It could mean pissed off. There you go. There you go. I would imagine that he did not know that the game plan was, DJ, you are the backup, and we don't want you to touch the ball. I saw him run out on the field one time. He was out there a few steps. But Kenyon Drake is the guy right now. Yeah.

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Kenyon Drake is the Arizona Cardinals starting running back. What do you do with someone if they think they're healthy and you think they're not? Asking for David Johnson and Mitchell Tribusky. Well, if I'm the head coach, I play whoever is the better player. And there is no doubt right now that Kenyon Drake is the better player. We as Arizona Cardinals fans on the season have been lamenting from week one. Even when he was having good fantasy games in the passing game, he has not. We said Chase Edmonds. Early on was the better runner.

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If you're talking between the tackles, trying to get to the edge, much better than David Johnson, and Kenyon Drake is better than Chase Edmonds. It was so hard because David Johnson, in the first six weeks of the season, had five top 12 performances at the position, masking the inefficiency on the ground. But even last year.

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He couldn't, you know, this offensive line in Arizona, it was a 3.2 carry. You kind of just said, hey, he'll be involved in the passing game. Now he's involved in nothing. So it's just disappointing. I know he's got five good performances. But think about this. Weeks, five, six, and seven, Chase Edmund was the running back 13, 15, and the running back one. Then you have Drake, who's come on board and, you know, was the running back two against San Francisco two weeks ago, who was in the 20s last week, had a pretty solid week this week.

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I think this system is... In a redraft league, do you drop David Johnson? Because he's got a buy week. And then Rams Pittsburgh. Do you drop him because you have to... Would you go drop him for a handcuff? You're the Dalvin Cook owner. Do you drop David Johnson for Madison for the stretch run with the buy week next week? Drake, Edmonds will be back. I mean, this is a big time question. You're in a keeper league. You're not doing something like that. But there was a roster I was helping. What do you do, Brooks?

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Yeah, I think you do it. You drop him? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's tough because of the buy week. You wonder, okay, the buy week, the extra rest, does that get him healthy and he's in front? But the reality is he's not going to go to the front. If he comes back to playing relevance, not fantasy relevance, then he's in a timeshare. So as insane as it sounds, I think you can drop David Johnson. You don't have to. If David Johnson was out on waivers,

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I could promise you my league of record team. I'd pick him up for the shot. I picked up LaShawn McCoy last week for the shot that maybe, you know, it was a planned veteran rest. Well, yeah, Damien Williams was some rumored issues right now, too. Yeah. So, you know, starting running backs aren't, well, who knows if he's starting running back? Running backs aren't must drop assets, but you can. If you need to move on. What would you rather have, David Johnson or Ronald Jones? Ronald Jones. Yeah, me too. That's.

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he's got to get healthy and then we'll see what happens next year i don't usually cry on our episodes but that one hurts yeah that one hurts because ronald jones not not your is not my favorite yeah he's not been your fan um and uh david johnson oh man move ronald jones uh he he had four for 13 so yeah it wasn't infinitely more than david johnson wasn't great

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All right. Wide receivers, whether you were named Mari Cooper or Cooper Cup, the Coops didn't do much. Amari Cooper, three for 38 on eight targets. What kind of snap count? That's got to be concerning. Yeah, look, he's been dealing for the last, I don't know, month, if not the whole season with nagging injuries. Playing 55% of snaps is a little bit concerning. Now, it...

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If you tell me he gets eight targets, I go, oh, I wish it was 10 or 12, but that should be enough for Amari Cooper to get the job done. He didn't. Now you've got New England, Buffalo, Chicago, the Rams, the next four weeks are, that's a tough stretch run for Cooper. But you have to still start him, right? He's been too good to not start him. I don't know about this coming week on the road against New England. I think...

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You can look to pivot, but he's just a hard guy. He's too involved and too talented to easily put him on your bench. You remember when you coughed mid-word? You remember your mid-word cough? Our producer, Al Borland, said he thought we actually lost power. That's what he thought. He thought we lost power. He was worried over there. He got power just lost my mind. You downgrade Cooper Cup against Baltimore?

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