There aren't a lot of options there. That'll depend a little bit on Kittles' health, though. So Ridley has the clearest path to production season long. I agree with that. Yeah, I like Samuel as well. I think that even when the health comes around for Kittle and for Emmanuel Sanders, I don't think Debo Samuel is just going to be relegated to irrelevance. What I like about Debo is games with...
Week 11 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, Peanut Butter Dwelley Time
Week 11 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, Peanut Butter Dwelley Time
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136 passagesYou know, you say, okay, he's in Baltimore. Maybe that's not a great matchup. That's true. But they play New Orleans. They play the Rams. They play the Packers. These are games that Jimmy Garoppel is going to have to do some work in the passing game. They can't just go defense running game. So hopefully Debo stays involved. It was a nice performance. Marvin Jones. Yeah. I mean, people are upset because no.
You didn't play Marvin Jones, right? The process with Jeff Driscoll against the good Dallas Cowboys defense, I would say majority of leagues out there where you have Marvin Jones, who's on your bench, and you feel stupid and you feel dumb. He only had five targets, only four receptions. Just two of them were touchdowns. He's leading the league in touchdowns now. He's tied with eight. Yeah. DJ chart, Kenny Gallatee. We'll talk about him later. Also, we had the apology show last week.
Remember we said we were sorry? I think you'd think I'm heading somewhere else. I was just going to say, I feel like Michael Thomas deserves an actual apology from the fantasy community because no one was willing to put him in the very upper echelon. And here he's faced multiple quarterbacks, and he's by far the best wide receiver in fantasy. He's never finished outside the top 22, so he's giving you all the consistency you could ever want like Devante Adams did last year.
He's got the most, I think he's like the first player to get 90 receptions this many, you know, at this point in the season like ever? Yeah, he has been so incredibly consistent. And you're right. While he was still an upper echelon wide receiver in the draft season, he wasn't in the same conversation.
with Hopkins and Julio for most people. He was a tier below those guys, a tier below Devante Adams, and he has clearly been the best wide receiver for fantasy this year. He's giving you monster upside games, and he's never disappointed you. So he's been great. I thought. Yeah, you were going to mention the fact that these players don't know how to handle an apology. Right. You apologize to James Connor. He was like, I didn't deserve that. And then Mike apologized to Amari Cooper. Sometimes people don't know how to take a compliment.
What does that mean? Can D.K. Metcalfe take one? Well, thankfully, he was on by. So he's got time to work through it. You know who also you owe an apology? And I think you did apologize to this player early on. I'm afraid. But Cornland Sutton, I mean, he is just great. He is a great wide receiver. You watch some of these catches going over the middle, bad throws. He grabs everything. He's a great wide receiver. And if his quarterback could throw him a better.
throwing him a better ball. Yeah, he threw one too. If he had a better ball over the middle of that game, he put a double move on that secondary and was wide open, would have gone in for a touchdown with a better pass. It just really is one of those things where do you trust that he'll ever have a good quarterback? Because unless you think Drew Locke is that guy. Oh, no, I don't. I don't. Elway is not. He's just the one. Sutton's the one. When Sanders left, his volume got locked in stone, basically. But it's just a shame because it's like you're going to,
end up in purgatory for a while because flackles not the answer locks not the answer you're not going to have a top pick so i just like how people out there are saying like okay we've got we've got our guy there are contingents of brandon allen truthers now because he's moving around and had some good games Trevor simeon had good games for this team do you remember the Trevor simian hype oh yeah uh brock osweiler had some good games yeah
You know, and you look around the league. There's no disrespect to Brandon Allen, but you've got to do it for more than like two games. Yeah. Ask Kyle Allen. Yeah. He had a monster game against Arizona to start his career. A couple of really good ones. Remind me how he did this week? Poorly. Poorly. Yeah, my listener in league team agrees with me. All right. Ryan Griffin at the tight-in position. Do we need to start playing him?
Well, now that Herndon is out, I think he can be in the mix of guys that you take the shot on, but more often than not. Great matchups, Oakland, Cincinnati, Miami the next three weeks. Five for 109 and one on five targets. He's the tight in 14 on the year. This is a great stupid stat. He has more finishes as the tight in one on the week.
than Kelsey, Kittle, and Ertz combined. That's a terrible step. I know. It's awful because he has finished twice as the tight end of one on the week. It seems like Sam Darnold trusts him. The schedule for the Jets is great. Robbie Anderson gets one catch a week and Griffin's scoring. I think he's a pickup. I really do. I think he's a player you can pivot to at the tight end position and always have a shot at, you know, he's probably going to catch four balls a week and no Herndon. Yeah. I mean.
You got to do what you got to do if you don't have a regular weekly tight end start. Kyle Rudolph. Hey, nice start of the week there. Five for 67 and a touchdown on five targets. He has five touchdowns on the year all in the last five weeks. That's pretty impressive. And this one was very nice. A longer, pretty wide open designed touchdown play. Yeah, he had to run and everything.
He couldn't just put one hand up and catch it. Ross Dwellie. Oh, my goodness. Two touchdowns. He only had 14 yards, but he scored twice against an Arizona defense that gets, I think they get paid. They do. That's in the contract. Giving up touchdowns to the tight end. If it's to a tight end, they get a bonus. Each player gets a $100,000 bonus for a tight end touchdown against them. That's right. Oh, man. I verified that with Spot track. Oh, it's so painful to be a Cardinal fan right now because.
They're always like two or three plays away from winning these games. Cardinals, Mike Clay tweeted. Moral victories, Andy. Mike Clay tweeted this, and this is worth noting for the offensive options. Like the first handful of games, they're averaging like 1.2 touchdowns a game. They're up at like 2.7 touchdowns a game over the last handful. Their offense is playing much better. Yes, for fantasy. But their defense is playing much same. Much same. For fantasy, the Arizona Cardinals' offense is fantastic. They have had a very...
tough stretch of games. Now they go on by week, which is a very tough stretch for fantasy. Unlikely to put up big points. But I mean, you're talking about two of the last three weeks. They've been against the 49ers throwing touchdowns and they've got their answer. Isabella's on the field. He's a big play guy. Christian Kirk's playing well. Yeah, he's being targeted and they've finally got a running back that can produce. And Kyler ran in a touchdown yesterday from 20 plus yards. Jared Cook scored. Really nice touchdown catch.
If your league gives bonuses for, like, flamboyance. For cool touchdowns. Yeah. This is my start of the week. I'm happy he worked out. Oh, my gosh. Cameron Brade. Hey, so my start of the week last week, O.J. Howard. Oh, we came in. How do you feel about this? I feel so great. So lucky, right? No, not lucky. Unlucky. Yes. Because it was great to call that. And then when we came back the next week and say, okay, is this O.J. Howard? Is he back? Can you, can you, can you, and we said absolutely not.
Like, no, you do not want to keep playing. Run for the hills. Yes. And then he had a drop, he being O.J. Howard, early in the game. And then was benched. And then it was like, okay, you're done. You're dead to me. Hey, Cameron Bray. It was such a gross drop because he kind of like juggled it and then rotated around. Like, you looked like he was going behind the back. And then he threw it to the other team. And then Cameron Brake caught 10 passes, which was a record for the tight-in position. It was almost like it was punitive.
Yes. Look what I can do. I think Bruce Ariens talked to James and was like, you throw it to Cameron Bray every time and after every throw, you stare at O.J. Howard. I mean, he is. This could have been you. Howard is clearly in the dog house there. And whether he returns to this team next year is a question in my mind. Because it's not, they extended Brate. They don't use the tight in position a lot.
Howard trade rumors that were already abounding. If he doesn't factor into the Arian's offense and Arians is frustrated with him, I just wouldn't be surprised. It hurts his dynasty outlook, not knowing what the future holds for OJ. I just want to read some numbers here, and I apologize for the length of these numbers. 2044-4-4-4-14-14-14 targets.
That was Cameron Brate's game log of his target counts. How far back were you going? I went back to last year. I could go further. That's also, that's the code to get into our studio as well. Yes, that's right. I mean, that's 14 targets for Cameron Bray is not something that he can or should handle. It's not allowed. Stinkers of the week, presented by odor eaters. Well, we had some stinkers this week, some...
Some big boy pants got filled up, Jay. And some of them were Mondo-sized pants like Deshawn Watson, superstar. You wanted Watson and Lamar Jackson going head to head. You wanted pieces in this matchup. This is what we were talking about. We wanted all the pieces we could handle in this game because so many points were going to be scored. And we were half right because the Ravens scored a lot of points.
But the Texans did not. Generally when, like Watson's had some inconsistency during the course of a game. And he normally is able to salvage that over the back half. But as this game progressed, well, it's really funny. I mean, this is by far his worst performance of the year. He's had so many good ones. So it's by far his worst performance of the year. But he is actually, this is now his fourth. And keep in mind, you know, this is this is.
10, 11 weeks in, this is his fourth game where at the quarterback position, he's a bust. Because if you're not in the top 15 in a 12-team league, that's a bust week. He's been the quarterback 22, twice, 16, and now we don't know where he'll finish on this week, but it's not good. And so it's very interesting for a guy who every other week has been a top.
12 option or a top five option all but one of those weeks. And I would kind of, if I'm the Deshaun Watson owner and I just throw this game away, you throw it out of your mind. If there's one thing we know about Watson is he bounces back. He's a disciplined player. Those games you talked about when he finished 22 in Jacksonville followed it up with the number five overall performance. 22 at Carolina followed it up by the number one overall performance. 16th at Indy, number two the next week. Next three games at home against Indianapolis, New England.
in Denver, but you played Deshawn Watson, he's your quarterback. Yeah, I mean, he's too good, but he definitely let everyone down and stunk this week. Yeah, woof, Kyle Allen, woof, 50 pass attempts. That should be good enough for, uh, well, four, four interceptions. 50 pass attempts is something that you should never put in the hands.
of a quarterback like Kyle Allen. He likes to put the ball in the hands of the other team. And none of these were tipped passes that were like, oh, no, that was, you know, bad route. These were just, he's, he played horrific football. Yeah, they got destroyed by Atlanta. That's Atlanta beating two good teams in a row. And was there a change from Dan Quinn calling the defensive plays? I think there might be. Did they change all their players?
Yeah, something changed. Out of the buy. They came out. Two great performances. Now Kyle Allen has to go to New Orleans. No, thank you. Brady. Oh, man. 26 for 47 for 2 16, no touchdowns. My 8-year-old was playing in our family league. And his opponent benched Lamar Jackson to play Tom Brady this week. And he was quite tickled by that fact. Wow. Worked out well in his favor.
But this was a, what do you make of it? I mean, they won the game. I mean, this was one of the worst performances Brady's had in a little while. I would, this is not a good offensive team. The New England Patriots are great defensively, but if you look at a lot of the metrics on how the, the Patriots are scoring, how they're moving the ball, the yards per drive, things like that, this is pretty much the worst Patriots team.
that we've seen. Now, it's all masked in the NFL by their defense that's great. But, I mean, you look at the last five games and you have four passing touchdowns. Yeah, Brady hasn't been a top 12 quarterback over the last four games now. And he's only done it four times out of now 10 games. So not trustworthy at the position. He's on the fringe in terms of just how the season's gone. They don't seem to have a flow in the running game at all.
