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Starts of the Week + Week 2 Breakdown - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/12

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Starts of the Week + Week 2 Breakdown | Fantasy Football 2024 - Ep. 1632

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The Week 2 episode introduces a metal-singer version of ‘football time,’ tracks the hosts' many fantasy teams and uses Crown and Clowns as a named segment.

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It's not going to be easy sledding for the rushing and that DAC throws two touchdowns. Yeah, I think C.D. Lamb's going to have a fantastic game. His yardage is sitting at 86.5. Right now it's over under. I think it's going to be okay. On the other side for the Saints, though, we've already seen the change in the offense. Jay, just for you, I think there is some optimism, or I at least have some, that this was not the same old crumogy. They're using motion. Yes, that was nice to see. Cubs, baby cubes. They went into the future of the NFL. They didn't go into the 1950s style. So, Camara is in. Olave is still in. I'm going to, he better get some targets. He better get some targets. The other guys, though, Shaheed, the deep play. Don't love it. Well, let's look at this game. Would you rather play Shaheed or Brandon Cooks?

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I'd go Brandon Cooks. I would as well. Yeah, the defense is just, I'm scared of the saints going on the road. And Rashid Shaheed is, he could make us look dumb in one play. That's what he does. He catches. Here's what I know. Derek Carr will take one to three shots downfield at Rashid Shahid in this game. If one of them works out, we're dumb. That's how it works. And now, if Shaheed outperforms a lobby for a second consecutive week. Dude, that's going to be bad. Are we going to have to reimagine OLAVE compared to where this draft cost was? Because, you know, if you talk about a player that let people down in week one and was a head scratcher, putting up 47 points and having Chris Olave do nothing, that was as disappointing as anything. Yeah, I mean, I will say that, you know, they didn't need him when it was 40 to nothing at the half or something like that. So Olave.

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was not needed. It's really about target pecking order here. If Shaheed happens to outscore Olave but you know, Olave's got seven or eight targets and I'm okay. And Shahid has four or five, fine, whatever. It's really like I need six plus targets for Olave this week. And I'm still playing Olave one. One week does not a season make, but definitely holding my breath. Joanne Johnson or Taysam Hill, who would you start as an emergency tight in? Because I've been thinking about this one. I think it's still Taysam. Okay. Tampa Bay at 1-0 take on the Detroit Lions in Detroit, who are also 1-0. Both teams won and Tampa won big. Draft King Sportsbook line, Detroit minus 7 and a half. The over-under is 51 beautiful points. Yeah, we like that. We had a, this is a rematch from the divisional round. Detroit had knocked off Tampa 3123 last year. It was tied going into the fourth. I do think this game is going to be pretty competitive.

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I don't think that what we saw from Tampa last year or what we saw already through one week is a mirage. I think that they know what they want to do on offense and they have the personnel to where there's a level of consistency and reliability here. I think adding Bucky Irving and Jalen McMillan has like obviously very small sample and it was against a terrible defense. But they look like legit helpful players on the NFL field and there really was nothing. last year behind, you know, you had Rashad White doing his work at the passing game, Mike Evans being awesome, and then Godwin, serviceable. They needed more places to go to. And I really do think Irving and McMillan helped Baker and help the whole team be able to compete in a game like this. What did you think about, I mean, week one, Dave Canales did not fix Bryce Young. And week one, the Buccaneers' offense without Dave Canales was hot magma. They're using Chris Godwin the right way.

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through one game, putting him back into a position to succeed. You know, early, early times. It's not, it's not just early. It was also Washington, which is such a difficult thing to evaluate because you can't, I'm not going to knock the Buccaneers for beating the crap out of Washington because they should. But on the other, they still did it. Like they didn't just, they didn't just win. They throttled them on the offensive side of the football. So, but. This is a much more fair competition for the bucks. So I'm not, my chips aren't all in on the bucks. That's why they were on The Hunger for More. I want to find out, is this, are they actually going to be this good again? And I think there's a great defense to find it out against because Detroit has a good defense, but they're not like all world. They're not one of those teams I'm afraid to play. This is just like, show what you got. And so I'm really looking forward to this matchup.

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I am as well. It puts Baker Mayfield into streaming quarterback category. Oh, yes. For sure. Yes. And Rashad White, his rushing line is 46.5. That's not wildly impressive. And I don't even know if I'd take the over on it. I'd probably take the under. But six targets last week. Six receptions last week. Yeah, beautiful. Ho-hum, he catches everything thrown his way and 75 receiving yards. Beautiful. It was like the A-chan game. You know, A-Cham put it up in the passing game. Rashad White is going to be in your lineup. Both running backs on Detroit side are going to be in your lineup. And we just hope that we have enough work there. Jameson Williams is the only question of, are you? He's in my lineup. Over who, though? Marve.

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No, no, I don't think I'm doing that. He is, I would, I would play him over Marvin in, in, I think that there's going to be a big pendulum swing and we'll talk about it in that matchup. I think. Would you play him over George Pickens, who will have the, no, the Cirtan? I don't think so, man. Pickens is, Pickens is good. He looked so good, week one, but he didn't do a ton for fantasy, but he did look really. He had big plays, right? I mean, he, McLaurian. Yeah, sure. That one's fine. At home against Tampa. The nice thing about this game is both teams have very, very strong run defenses. And so you kind of have a passing funnel on both sides. I expect the ball to be thrown a ton. Gibbs, I love Gibbs. I'm a little bit more worried about David Montgomery. Like he's pushed down into more like a flex option range for me because he's not involved in the passing game. Very difficult to run on Tampa Bay. Where was David Montgomery?

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I mean, it ended up incredible, you know, almost 16 points. But it's like before the overtime drive. Before the overtime, I think he would have been, he was like eight fantasy points. Yeah, it would have just been. Yeah. So that is like before we if you have Montgomery. Yeah, there's optimism. But it is I wouldn't look at week one as fully prescriptive for his season. What are the other question marks in this game? I mean, I think we covered everything. I think we got it all. I do. I think we did. And we'll be one, you know, Irving and McMillan and, you know, what does Alman Ra do to bounce back? Those will be storylines that we're paying attention to. But this is one of my favorite games of the week. I cannot wait to watch this ball game. And I don't know, which side would you be on with the seven and a half point line? I lean Tampa keeping it closer. I think it'll be a closer game as well. Yeah. We give a tip of make sure every Sunday morning if you have that empty spot, like one of your guys.

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got ruled out. You can move on to the IR. You should always be stashing backup running backs who have the potential to be league changing guys. If Bucky Irving wasn't picked up, which there's a chance he was. Bucky Irving is one of those players to me of I'm going to stash him if I ever have an open spot. Because if Rashad White loses time to injury, Bucky Irving was going to those six for six, 75 receiving yards, that will go right to Bucky Irving. The fact, when you have a running back backup, that you know can catch the football. Yeah. That is so fundamentally different than saying, okay, if Giovante goes down, it's Estimim and Jaliel just sharing time. Like, I don't think, I think Bucky would get everything. And that would be very valuable. They don't, they really don't have people behind them with, was it Chase Edmonds and. Well, Edmonds is on IR. Tucker. Tucker. Yeah. Yeah. Sean Tucker.

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So I think that's a really important name to mention. The Colts, I don't even know why we were talking about this game. I already told you what's going to happen. The Colts at 0-1 traveled to Green Bay to take on the Packers who were also 0-1. Games in Lambo, drafting sportsbook line, unsurprisingly, has moved to Indianapolis minus two and a half. The overrunners 41. What was my total 2414? 2313. 2313, 36 points over under 41. Okay. I mean, we're working on it. Okay, so under. Got it. Yeah, I would take the under, obviously. The three of us yesterday, we sat down and we watched. Maybe 2316. Maybe we're getting to 16. Oh, because you get it to 41? I couldn't tell if one of the kicks went in. Yeah, we, uh. Look, the text was a little fuzzy. You know, there's angles that you can't tell. If you're watching the kick from the side, which is how I do my.

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Wait a minute. I thought this was a magazine. Yeah, you got to see the game. Didn't you say you had the almanac? The almanacs were the scores printed, guys. I saw the game through an orb. Oh, okay. All right. Well, you guys don't know any. You know nothing about predicting games. Share the orb, bro. No. Release the orb. So we sat down and we watched Anthony Richardson. We watched every one of his passing plays, all 19 of them from last week. And I think, I don't want to overstate it. at all, but all three of us walked away saying he had a pretty darn good game. He was better than we thought when it came to just the passing work and the accuracy. Yeah, he had a play that made us all just burst out laughing. We couldn't tell who he was targeting. I think he was trying to throw the ball through two people. I think he looked good, but nine for 19 won't get it done. And if the Alec Pierce play doesn't happen,

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You're back foot chucking it as far as you can. That's a bad game. Yeah. And you're at home in week one. So I think tough environment, me personally, look, I'm not saying don't start Anthony Richardson. Easier started, easier starter. But I think, you know, Green Bay is going to give them a hard time. Green Bay is a smart, well-coached football team that will know how to game plan against this Indianapolis offense. But you're starting your studs here. Richardson, Taylor. Yes. The target share for Pittman means you keep him in your lineup. And you're done talking about the Colts at that point. So I'll throw this to Jason because Andy already saw at least a different, a possible outcome. But so Jason, we're more on Jonathan Taylor this week of thinking he's going to have a strong game. His DK lines at 79 and a half. Do you have that level of confidence?

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That is a really, really good line. I don't have the confidence necessarily to take that line and go better. I have full confidence in Jonathan Taylor being a good play. Do you think he's going to follow through with that type of a performance? Yeah, I mean, look, I think they win this game against Malik Willis. I think Malik Willis will make a couple of boneheaded plays or not be able to move the offense. So short fields, you know, two rushing touchdowns for Jonathan Taylor to me are totally in the cards in this game. Not if they only score 13. Right, right. You know what I mean? You can miss an extra point. I guess. The analysis is very difficult for me knowing what I have the constraints to work in based on your future. My analysis is based on, you know, the future obvious thing that's going to happen. Okay. So you have a negative game script then for the Colts. Are you playing Pittman? 42% of the target. It's not a huge pride. To me, you play Richardson, Taylor, and Pittman, and you move on.

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Okay. On the other side, everyone's going to be shaky with the starts of any wide receiver or tight in on the Packers, which, look, let's just make it easy. Jaden Reed wasn't drafted so highly that you don't have another option. If you are uncomfortable, just move to somebody else for a week. Jacobs, you play him. The game plan should be to hand him the football. He had 19 opportunities in week one, barring a hyper-negative game script, which I don't see at home in Lambo, but is possible. I think 25 opportunities for Jacobs is in the cards. Oh, yeah. He's going to be the centerpiece of their offense. He's a must start. And, yeah, Jaden Reed, Christian Watson, you can start them. I would do it in that order. But you're right. I mean, if I have Brian Thomas Jr., who, you know, was a later draft pick, I would play him over either of those. And look, I'm not encouraged about Christian Watson in this season so far. He was three for 13 in week one. That is not the kind of. He did have.

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three touchdown opportunities. He only got one of them. But like when they got around the red zone, the game script, or not the game script, the play calling was designed for Watson. That was week one. Yeah, and that's the plan with Watson. I think what I said in the off season was if he scores, you're happy. And I don't expect a lot of scores with Malik Willis that quarterback. The Jets are 0-1. They take on the Tennessee Titans. They're also O'N1. The Draft King Sportsbook line here. Jets on the road minus three and a half. The overrunner is 40. The world was not impressed with Will Levis, unless you were a... He neither was his coach? Unless you were a... Yeah, why don't you share that because... That was awesome. I don't have the exact quote in front of me, but it was the head coach of the Titans was asked about the offense, and he said something along the lines of, if we had punted on every first and 10, I think we win the game. In other words, your offense cost you the ball game because you turned it over and you were stupid.

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and that needs to change. So bad. So this is a big game, in my opinion. You know, you're at home. Tennessee gets to play at home. The Jets defense did not look like they could handle the 49ers in week one, but this is a totally different situation. You play the Jets D and you want those mistakes. I just want to see what happens with the Calvin Ridley story this week. To me, this is very important. Yeah, I mean, it makes sense that it's important to you. You've got a lot of Calvin Ridley. This is just not a really good matchup for him. Over the course of the entirety of last season, you had the wide receiver. They gave up the fewest fantasy points to wide receivers did the Jets. And so, you know, obviously week one, they didn't look quite as tough, but they were playing against the 49ers. There are some similarities between the offense.

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for the Titans and the offense for the Cardinals play calling wise on Sunday. Both teams were up 17-3. Both teams didn't really push the envelope in the second half, and it fell apart for both teams. So Pollard looked good. Are you in on Pollard this week? The line is set at 50 and a half rushing yards. I think Pollard is an RB2-ish type of a play. Yeah, I think he's a good play this week. Out on Spears right now. Until you see it balanced, I think you have to be. Certainly not in any way, shape, or form out to the point of like dropping. Oh, no, no, no. I think you could have it come back to balance. But the matchup is not that bad. The Jets run D. I mean, you saw him get destroyed by Jordan Mason last week. But last year, they weren't that great. It's really the passing work that gets shut down. So Will Levis, like I would be willing, I would be happy to bench Calvin Ridley this week. And if he has a bad game, I know, Andy, you've got a lot riding on it.

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you would be a little bit more fearful than I would be. The Bears defense, I think by the end of the year, we're going to go back and say, wow, they're great. And that's who they had to play week one. The Jets, we know their passing defense is great. They've got, you know, they got the sauce. And so I'm happy. I would want to bench Ridley, and I won't overreact. I'll go trade for him. I think you might look back at the end of the season, and we might say that Tennessee's rushing defense is actually pretty darn amazing. I'm so impressed a sweat on that defensive line. He seems like a superstar. The Bears got nothing going on the ground last week. It was borderline embarrassing debut for Swift. All that to say, maybe the efficiency won't be where you want it with Breece. It wasn't last week. It might not be this week, but the passing game work. And the hyper focus of Aaron Rogers on Breese and Garrett Wilson, those two guys are in. Are you chasing what Lazard did against the Titans on the road?

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So the Lazzard. McLaren or Luzard? I actually might go Lazzardo. I'm very concerned about McLaurin. It's the, it is the same old Cliff Kingsbury garbage that we saw in Arizona of one guy. This is your spot. Did you see where he was lined up? That's exactly what I'm talking about. Yeah, 87% of the time. You play over here on the left and you don't go anywhere else. We have no creativity. It's. It's brutal and rookie quarterback, Russian quarterback, all that stuff. But for Lazard, people ask him, where was he on Waver Day? Maybe if you're in a deeper league and could be proven wrong on Lazard. However, his stat line of 6 for 89 and 2 is, that is the most fraudulent stat line of his first huge touchdown. It was.

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It was the vintage Aaron Rogers. We got everybody off sides. We got a free play. I chucked it up and it worked. Would never have thrown that ball if it wasn't a free play. Yeah. And it worked out. His second touchdown was the backup quarterback at the end of the game when the jets have said the white flag was already flying in the wind. I don't think that we get anywhere close to this with Lazard. Mike Williams is also working his snaps up and Lazard is not going to be the starting outside wide receiver in that situation. The bull case for Lazard is full narrative of the reason he's on this team, the reason he got the contract he got, it's because Aaron Rogers went into the management and said you're going to sign my friend. So that's if you want to chase that. If you want to say one more.

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thing in the positive for the bowl case, it's Legerius Sneed. Legerius Sneed for this week, yeah. For this week as a locked down corner who, you know, Garrett Wilson. Can I, can I have a second one? Can you have a second one? Almost upset? Yeah, I think Tennessee. Absolutely. I think Tennessee wins the ball game. Now, I don't have a button, so I can't push it. Well, you already did push it once you push it once. You got to push it with your mind. Think about it real hard right now. Where's the orb? There it is. Andy's almost upset of the week. I'm giving you two. I'm giving you two. You're a wild man. Tennessee, I think they're going to play really, really good football this week at home. I actually don't, I don't mind this at all. They're going to run the ball and they're going to take the ball. I believe the Titans are going to take the ball out of Will Levis's hands a little bit more so that he doesn't do these boneheaded things. And the Jets are going to, I could see their offense struggling here.

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Did you see the comparison between week one, Zach Wilson and week one, Aaron Rogers? I did not, but this fuels me. They were identical numbers across the board except for last year, Zach Wilson got the win and Rogers got the L. Not the thing Jets fans want to hear. All right, we'll take a break. Be right back. The San Francisco 49ers that want to know travel to Minnesota to take on the impressive Minnesota Vikings. The DK Sportsbook line here, San Francisco minus five. The overrunners 45 and a half. Both teams look great in week one. Now Minnesota dominated the Giants. San Francisco didn't have Christian McCaffrey and still dominated the Jets. Minnesota upset San Francisco last year on Monday night football. And Donald looked really good last week. Brock Purdy and the 49ers looked like. Jason, would you like to talk about Sam Darnold? He looked.

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He just looked great, man. Now, that being said, he was not playing a very good defense. Yeah. It's very Tampa Bay Baker Mayfield questions. Yeah. You got to prove it to me this week. But he passed the eyeball test for sure. So much, much more difficult situation here, especially with Jordan Addison, now going down. So you've got Jefferson, of course. But, you know, were you impressed with everything you saw from Aaron Jones in week one? I was. He looked like he had the same speed, five games of 10 plus yards. That was the most among running backs in week one. It looked like he hadn't lost anything. So it is a timeshare with him and Ty Chandler. It really is. But Aaron Jones is, as of right now, he's a weekly play. Eleven opportunities for Ty Chandler in week one. What was the count for Aaron Jones? 11 for.

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He had 16. Yeah, that's a timeshare, but got into the end zone. Are you, you know, outside of Jefferson and Aaron Jones, though, are you even, I mean, there's no one else you think about on Minnesota, right? No. So that's simple. Even in a, this matchup, even though Donald looked good. If I'm in a super flex, I'm not playing Donald. On the other side, Mike started the week, Jordan Mason touched the ball in 41% of the plays for San Francisco. We've commented on it already. Mike and I are in the camp where we'd play Jordan Mason. I'm assuming you're on the regardless of Christian McCaffrey. I am, yes. And, you know, that workload that you saw for Mason last week was awesome. Christian McCaffrey only saw it in four of 16 games. And on top of that, I believe the style was Jordan Mason faced the most stacked boxes, which means that there's eight or more. Eight or more defenders in the box. Literally the defense is saying.

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Go ahead, run the ball on us. And Jordan Mason and the 49ers destroyed. Well, it's perfect for his playstall. It's just more guys for him to hit. You know what I mean? He's like, oh, good. I got eight of them to run over. He probably won't tell us when he was told to be the starter this week. Debo is his involvement in this offense only goes up without Christian McCaffrey. That's a player that you're probably starting anyways. But if there is no CMC, you know you're going to get rushing attempts. Probably going to get more passing game involvement, the dumpoffs. Brandon Ayuk only had five targets last week. Drop the touchdown. If you watch Peyton Manning, Manning went off on Ayuk and not signing the contract so you can go get some reps and catch the football. But Iyuk should get more work in this game. George Kittle, where are you with him? His receiving yard line is higher than I'd expect. It's at 49 and a half. That feels a little high for me. The Flores defense. He was 4 for 40 last week. Yeah, 4 for 40 last week.

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But the Flores defense for Minnesota, they looked great, obviously Daniel Jones, but they looked really good last year. We forget how good their defense was last year. Over the course of the season, fantasy points given up. They were top 10. In fact, they were third against quarterback, second against tight end, seventh against running backs. This is a good defense. And so, yeah, not that you're benching George Kittle, but if you're talking about a 49.5 yard line with... IUC there. That feels difficult to achieve. George Pickens or Brandon Ayuk as of right now on Thursday. I would go Iyuk. That's a good comp though. Yeah, you know, tough week for Iyuk in week one. Any other matchups or questions? Brock Purdy. Minnesota allowed the most completions in the NFL last year. Is Purdy in the in your purview? I would, I'd streamed Baker. Okay. Over Purdy.

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The Seattle Seahawks traveled to New England to take on the New England Patriots. Draft King Sportsbook Line, Seattle minus three and a half. The overrunners 38 and a half. Ew, gross. If you don't have Ken Walker, it's going to get grosser. Because I believe Zach, I believe Zach Sharbony was the single worst efficiency running back in the football last week. Yeah. Had a good fantasy day because he caught a touchdown. But as a. Pure runner was not great. There's a lot of matchups, apparently, that I think are going to go the other direction. I think New England wins the ball game. I'm with you on this, so I don't know if that works to your favor, because usually when you are against something or surprising, I'm totally on the other side, and that's when you're right. I think it's the early, the early season situation right now. All right, we have Ramandre Stevenson, Jason started the week. He's locked into your lineup.

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Tell me if there's another soul on the Patriots you're even glancing at for fantasy. Absolutely not. That would be bad if you did. Soulless. I'm keeping my eye on Jalen Polk, who the counting statistics at the end of the game were there were nothing. But watching him play, like watching him on his all 22, there was at least one particular play where he had torched his DB, but Jacobi just. didn't look at his side of the field. It was an easy touchdown pass. He is a very good player who over the course of the season might work his way into a starter. Yeah, from a fantasy starter. He's going to start for a new one. Like a DFS dart throw. Hunter Henry was, he basically caught a touchdown, but he was out of bounds last week. We'd be viewing him a little bit differently. There's a great matchup for tight ends. Yeah, I was just looking at his targets. He had three in week one. Love to see that go up.

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Metcalf, you don't bench him just because of about week one. It is a new offense, and we talk about it all the time. There's always rose-colored glasses with the new offense. It's always going to be so amazing. Jason's finally going to be utilized the way he's supposed to, and Metcalf is going to be unleashed. He is Jamar Chase in the grub offense. And week once threw some cold water on the high aspirations for both players. Yeah, this was an offense because of all of those things I was looking forward to the most. Now, Denver Broncos, They started last season as just an awful defense, and then they got it together to finish the year. So I think maybe they're a good defense, but here's a problem. So are the Patriots. Patriots are a great defense. Now, DK's DK line is at 53 and a half. DK squared. Wow, that was. I'm a little. I love Michael Keaton. I love Michael Keaton. Because I was a little ashamed, though. We said the same stupid thing. But I think that's, that's fair. We may not have a bone zone in this game.

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Ken Walker could miss it. The zone will be boneless. Okay. So if he's out, though, this is this is what people are going to need to know. How high would Charbonnet be against a good Patriots defense? If Walker is out, he'll catch passes. He's running back 26 in my mind, somewhere in that range. Slightly out of my top 24 is like. Like, Najee against Denver, I'd play ahead. Jerome Ford against Jacksonville, I would play ahead. Would you play Zeke against New Orleans or would you play Charbonnet? Zeke. I think I'd go Charbonnet on that one. What about Swift? I play Swift. Sharpie? I'd go Sharpie. All right. And then, JISN, are we just benching him until further notice? 100% full bench. I am willing to miss.

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