Do we have a chance to talk about it on the last show? No. Sean Jackson was traded to the Philadelphia Eagles. I think it was a, it came in as breaking news. All right. Here's a little reminder to Sean Jackson was drafted as the wide receiver 58 last year. And with Ryan Fitzpatrick, he was the wide receiver 8 in fantasy football from weeks 1 through 4. There is upside to Deshaun Jackson in Philadelphia. He signed an extension upon the trade.
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147 passagesLook, you ask people around the league. They say he hasn't lost a step. I saw comparisons to the only player that compared to him on longevity with speed like this is Joey Galloway from days gone by. Deshaun Jackson can still run. Jason, you said a lot of really nice things about Carson Wins on the last episode. Yes, and Warren Sharp put out some great posts just talking about how underrated this deal is because...
metrics-wise and looking at kind of some advanced metrics, where Deshaun Jackson wins and wins, you know, consistently in the NFL matches up very well to where Carson wins wins. These are, you know, they're taking strength and adding strength to it. You know, the deep ball, Carson wins could throw it. Iron, serpent's iron. There you go. And so I think this is, I think this is, it gives value to Deshaun Jackson gives even more value to Carson wins. John Brown.
Just a side tangent of this. All reports currently have the Eagles keeping Nelson Aguilar. But now he gets to move back into the slot where he actually had success. Or does Deshaun Jackson coming in being more of a target hog than Aguilar is used to? Aguilar was going to have problems anyway. Agreed. He's got problems because of too much larger individuals. Sure. Zach Ertz, Dallas Goddard. Look, if Carson wins.
I talked about this in the overreaction episode. If Carson wins is going into double digits, you know, if everyone wants Baker Mayfield, because, oh, look at his weapons. He's got O'Dall Beckham and Jarvis Landry and David and Jokou and Hitton O'Dow Callow. Put those four weapons. I mean, you don't have the height of O'Dowell Beckham, but put those up against the weapons here. If you've got Deshaun Jackson and Al Sean Jeffrey. Did you say the height? What? The height of O'Dell Beckham? Yeah, meaning the ceiling. You don't have the same.
Number one. Is that what you were looking at? I was just, I'm baffled. You're comparing the weapons. Zach Ertz, Alshan, Jeffrey, Deshawn Jackson, and Nelson Aguilar is a great team for Carson. Brown. I don't disagree with that. I don't disagree with that at all. I mean, Ertz is so much better than David and Joku. Ertz is one of the best receivers in the game. Jeffrey got the size. Deshaun Jackson spread the field, Nelson Aguilar. From a quarterback standpoint, he has everything he needs to succeed now. Yeah.
But not the height of Odell Beckham. Yes, I did mean that, though, as in, like, the ceiling, as in he's got the highest. Hey, that's what people say. The height. I did mean that, though. I did. I'm going to lean in. You didn't mean that, though, right? Like, that's the truth is you didn't mean his height. I meant the height of his ceiling. Not the height. Not the height. Thank you. You see what I'm saying? It's not the height. No, that's the height. That's exactly right.
Not the height. Okay. Of Odell Beckham. The height. But the height. But the height. Oh, I see. You heard it this height. Yes. Height. Right. Because if you're talking about someone's height, you don't put emphasis on it, right? And he's height is taller than mine. But what about my height? Well, I would say you're height. Right. No, no, that's the third one. Right. No, I know. I know. But that's where he ranks on the height scale.
Okay. So, like, O'Del Beggevin is like, his height. Andy Holloway is like, his height. Right. No, now I get it. It's all right. Totally clear. Speaking of a height, the height of John Brown has gone down. Yeah. As much as I love Josh Allen, it ain't good to be traded to the bills or to sign with the bills or to live near the stadium. Yeah. At least three years, 27 million. Josh Allen throws a good deep ball. John Brown is fast.
John Allen or Josh Allen or A.K. Josh Stallion throws a far deep ball. He does not throw a good. Superman throws good. I've seen the accuracy. Look, people want to say Josh Allen is a great deep ball because he can throw the ball over the moon. It hasn't always landed in receivers' hands, but. He could throw at the moon and miss the moon. He could miss them. Well, in its fairness, so would I. That being said, he hasn't had players.
as capable and he hasn't had as much time. And I've made the comparison to Cam Newton and I think it stands up. It just takes one big play. Robert Foster had relevance for many of the late season games. Zay Jones, Robert Foster, John Brown, those are burners. Okay? These guys can get down the field quick. And John Brown is more refined than Robert Foster is. He helps Josh Allen, as does Cole Beasley, who also signed a deal with the bills.
because they want Josh Allen to have every weapon they can. Yeah, and they tried to trade for Odell Beckham Jr. as well. So obviously the bills are for Antonio Brown. Okay. You confuse me a little bit. The bills are clearly trying to help Josh Allen. I will say this. When it comes to John Brown, John Brown helps Josh Allen. I'm going to say that, you know, I want to make the connection of he can run and get behind a defense and Josh Allen could throw the ball behind the defense.
But it reminds me of what we saw with Deshawn Jackson last season when he was with an accurate deep ball thrower in Fitzpatrick who could put it in his hands. I mean, nobody gets behind the defense better than Deshaun Jackson. But he did not succeed with James Winston because he was underthrown or overthrown by a couple yards. And Deshaun Jackson is very capable. So I think this is probably not a great landing stop for John Brum. Yeah, I hesitate to make the comparison before.
We see them on the field together. I mean, we're giving base. That's what we're here to do, Andy. We're making a lot of assumptions about Baker Mayfield, taking the year to jump, going from a QB 15 in fantasy to a QB 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. Yeah, but I could hit Odell Beckham. The point being, well, you got a height problem. Let me put it this way, and you guys can take it for what you will, which will be for nothing. There are very few players that I'm targeting more than Josh Allen and Dynasty Leaks.
Josh Allen at the, I'm talking about at the quarterback position. If I'm looking to buy low, I think you can still do it with Josh Allen right here right now. If you go after Josh Allen with a high tier, high perception type of quarterback, you can get a deal on him right now. Absolutely. But you, and he has nowhere to go but up in the passing game because he didn't have weapons and he didn't have accuracy. And those things can improve. I don't disagree that Josh Allen.
excuse me, is great for fantasy. We saw it at the end of the year. Overall, number one quarterback since he came back from his injury. But your comparison to Cam Newton, I think, is actually great. Aside from Steve Smith, have you ever been super pumped that you have Cam Newton's number one weapon? Not yet. No.
No, look, I am in no way, shape, or form making a case for John Brown's fantasy value. Okay, that's what I was asking. For Josh Allen's fantasy value, improving with Cole Beasley and John Brown, two very capable receivers arriving on the scene. I agree with that. That's my only contention. Okay. And you had, I mean, you had a handful of opportunity. No. What just happened? Is it breaking news? Yes, Brooke. Breaking news. What happened? Look, if you listens to Tuesday's show, just go ahead and delete it.
Because is this true, Brooks? Wait, what? Yeah, just came through. What just came through? The 49ers are signing Tevin Coleman to a two-year, $10 million deal. Wow. So. Well, there you go. That's what I was telling you, look, he's not Levi-on Bell. And they clearly didn't have the confidence that we thought they had in Jerich McKinnon. I'm really glad we got this information right now. It's Mike, I was offered a little trade ski this morning.
For McKinnon? For McKinnon. I was. I was offered a pretty good deal. I would give up Dalvin Cook. I would get McKinnon and Sutton, and I would give up Cook and Sammy Watkins. And I just did not have the confidence in McKinnon to do the deal. And I'm feeling real happy right now. Tevin Coleman to the 49ers. That deal is, I mean, that's very low money.
For Tevin Coleman. He goes to an offense that is very familiar with Tevin Coleman. I mean, Kyle Shanahan was his offensive coordinator. I was going to say, Tevin Coleman seems like he could very well be signing the backup job here. Yes. I mean, this is the Devanta Freeman and Tevin Coleman situation. He's literally going back to his old offensive coordinator. Kevin Coleman is going to fill the Tevin Coleman role. This has never been seen before. I think he will. This is incredible. And better than others would.
I mean, I think he's the perfect fit for that role, though. I mean. This is like he's on that, do you guys remember the game show where you had to stand on the moving platform and fit through the hole? Oh, yeah. Like, he doesn't have to do anything. Devin Coleman standing there doing nothing, winning them $10 million. I really want Kyle Shanahan to go up at the presser and just full deadpan that he was looking to fill the Tevin Coleman role. And this seemed like his best option.
That's a good fit. No, I, look, if, if, uh, if both guys signed this year for the money that both guys are given, I would, it was, you know, and it just happened right now, instant take, I would probably have, I would, I would, I would put Kevin Coleman in second place here. I, uh, actually have a live feed from Jared McKinn's Twitter. You do. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's, I, uh, I feel like you got to play that for Coleman. He was so.
We were all so ready for Tevin Coleman to be it. 33-year-old Adrian Peterson, two years, $8 million. Prime age. Wait, I didn't hear the money. What was the money? Ten million. Ten million. Two year, ten million. A two million dollar difference between Peterson and Coleman. You played yourself out of a lot of money last year, Tevin. Look, this is just, this is just trouble because there will be plenty of fantasy points scored by running backs. When you talked about what the Saints have done,
as a group, the 49ers are primed to do it. But now you don't know which way to slice the pie. And you don't have the proven commodities, right? McKinnon's never done it. Let's remind people. McKinnon has never done it over the course of a season, ever. I think what's going to happen. Neither is Kevin Coleman. I think what's going to happen to McKinnell. I think what's going to happen to McKinnon's stock.
is going to be an overreaction. Now, this is a bump down. Like, make no mistake, you can't believe that McKinnon will finish where you believed he would finish without Kevin Coleman. But I think McKinnon is going to go to death. You know, people are going to be like, he is the backup. He's going to go to death. He's just going to go and be meaningless to fantasy players who have them. You know, if you can buy him cheap now.
as a, you know. Yeah, I don't know if he's going to, I don't agree with you. You think he's going to go to death? I think he will plummet in ADP. Oh, you said Coleman, not McKin. No, McKinn. Oh. Yeah, I don't think he'll plummet. I thought you're talking about Coleman will plummet. Coleman will go, Tevin Coleman will be drafted below where Tevin Coleman would have been drafted to be in the Tevin Coleman role. I'm still.
I don't see why I would take a shot on Jeremy McKinnon in a heartbeat. Not at that high level. But where? Derek McKinnon will be a... He'll be a running back too. He'll be a low-in, too. Yeah, I think that his... I think he'll still be good for fantasy, but his ADP now, McKinnon, what, like fifth, sixth round, seventh round, maybe? Yeah, I think he'll... That's what I'm saying. I think McKinnan will drop to the... So look, don't delete Tuesday show. Like I said, Jerry McKinn's super stud for fantasy. Yeah.
Yeah. My point is I think we're back, Brooks. We're back in on McKinnon. I think McKinnon is going to drop to the point where he might be a value. If he drops to the six or seventh round and he is filling that primary role, I think he can return on that value. That's all I'm saying. No, you could be absolutely 100% right. And I think McKinnon may be on my do not draft list until that gets to that point. That's for sure. I'm looking at the tweets, Ian Rappaport is confirming it.
But in his tweet of the two-year $10 million deal, he had to put parentheses as Adam Schaefter reported. Do you think anything hurts the soul of Ian Rappaport or Adam Schaefter if they have to tag the other person because they broke the news? How large of a failure does Ian Rappaport feel? They don't feel good. Some people are talking about the possibility of McKinnon being cut. Wow, that would change my opinion.
McKinnon wouldn't be as much of a value. I don't think he would. No, he would not. But I also don't think he would. And then what, you know, Matt Barita. What do if dynasty owners do? Let the dust settle here in the backfield. If you're in a dynasty league, please hold is the right advice for now. Hey, you want to talk about something far less contentious, Jason? Please. Oh, no. No, I don't. Oh, but the drop lives. You don't want to talk about? I want to talk about something more contingentious. Devin S. Moneybags.
