Did you say continue father? Yes. Okay. Weird. Marlon Mack, Damien Williams, so much hype around the two rookies. Yeah. Clyde Edwards Allaire. Jonathan Taylor. The offensive line situation is obviously wonderful in Indianapolis. Damien Williams is always seemingly a beneficiary, not the cause of his own success at times. Where do you go? I mean, are you trying to get...
This or That ADP Game + Clenching While Drafting
This or That ADP Game + Clenching While Drafting
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130 passagesTo me, you look at this situation, and Damien Williams is somebody that, okay, maybe you get elite talent and elite production for a handful of weeks. Do you get that from Mac from the beginning? No, so it is my belief that both of these players, when you're drafting them in a redraft league this year, are essentially handcuffs. And if they're a hand, now I don't like drafting handcuffs. I like handcuffs going into the playoffs, but not in the draft season.
If I'm looking at these guys as an injury to the starter is where I get their value, then it's Damien Williams to me. Because there isn't really that third guy I'm scared of. He has shown success in this offense. The offense is better in Kansas City. So I think Damian Williams, for me, would be the pick simply because I look at these two guys as handcuffs. Now, if you're needing to play one of these two guys, it has to be more on the match. I just don't think we should look at either of these guys as handcuffs.
Because they're not going to be that to begin the year, either of them. I don't believe they will be involved enough to be someone I want to start in fantasy. I'm not saying they're not getting any use and they're going to be usurped by their rookie counterparts. And so their only value will come as a handcuff. I'm saying that's when they're a starter for me. I...
I just don't think you're going to be starting Damien Williams or Marlon Mack happily in fantasy. They're going to be on my bench. And when they become valuable is win an injury to... Yeah, I mean, you could be right. We do have the model. We've seen Jordan Howard be ignored in fantasy drafts last year. And Miles Sanders, the second round rookie, who's all hyped up and drafted before him. And all of a sudden, here comes Marlon Mac, Jordan Howard. Here comes Damien Williams, Jordan Howard, and the team trust them.
So that's still a possibility. I think I would go Damien Williams. I think I would go Damien Williams. But the line is better in Indianapolis and Mac is the better player. For me, it just feels like Damian Williams is more likely to be the starter for sure week one. I mean, there's a probability of neither of these players having the starting job, but it feels like Damien Williams is more likely to be.
The guy. He's the past catcher, too. Week one, week two. Meanwhile, Marlon Mack, if Jonathan Taylor comes and shows out during whatever training kit that they have, yeah, this is rough. I don't, I'm going with Damien Williams. I mean, Naim Hines will be on the field on third ground. Oh, yeah, and they're trying to set that. Martin Mac's not going to come in. Even if he has, he's the starter, he's not going to have the past catching work that Williams would have. True. Do you think it's Matt?
Jason or are you on the Damien Williams side? No, I'm on the Damien Williams side because of what I view them as for my roster. I don't view these guys as guys I want to start. However, if you had to start both guys 16 games, that's where I would say Marlon Mac's going to be more involved through the course of the season. I agree with that. You know, better offensive line, better off. You know, I think Clyde Edwards O'Lear.
will be a workhorse by season. These guys really are going in the sixth round. Would you be drafting these players? No. Because we've talked about them as values several times over the off season. There's no way they're six round picks. But they could still be in the six right now, but I would much rather go after a wide receiver or something else. The answer is if you're choosing ADP this or that in the six round, it's that. Yeah, that, I'm not taking either of them. Exactly.
All right, let me throw one more out here, late round wide receivers. Anthony Miller from Chicago or Preston Williams from Miami. I will quite easily select Anthony Miller in this situation. I feel like you had the hesitation between the two names because we are both just baffled by how much Jason seems to love Preston Williams. Correct. He's an undrafted free agent. Who, look, he was having a very solid year.
But then he tore his ACL. Yeah. I mean, Preston Williams may not even be ready for week one. I can remember the Kamar Akins of the world having opportunities when there was no one else. I'm not saying Preston Williams can't become something. But is there anybody else? I mean. Yeah. Well, there will be if he's not available week one. I mean, there will be other players out there on the field. I'm just not. We're going with 10 players.
In honor of Preston Williams. Yeah, I was impressed with Miller having the stretch of games that he had last year, the talent of Miller I like more than Williams. Miller is very confusing. Yeah, he is. And he's going to need, I mean, both of them are going to need consistent quarterback play to do anything. I mean, the reality is Anthony Miller is a very good player who's had stretches where he's been great, but he's dealt with a lot of injury. His shoulder problems, I think he's had two shoulder surgeries now.
you know, whether that crops up again, I know that's one of the more common injuries to come again, but not as common when you have the surgery. He had the surgery. Yeah, not presently injured. Right. So I actually like both of these guys. Late round wide receivers who could take a step forward. And you guys are baffled by my Preston Williams love. Yes. I believe he looked good on the field last year. And when I look at how.
The depth chart for the Dolphins is, I think he's got the clearest path to the wide receiver too. They had so many draft picks that they could have gone out and spent on a really good wide receiver option over and over. Every round they're on the board. Are they going to take this really great wide receiver out there? And they didn't over and over. I think that the Dolphins believe in what they have in Preston Williams. Yes, he's coming off to ACL.
But I lean Preston Williams out of these two guys. Oh, yeah. Alan Hearns is there. Yeah. You see a catch percentage for Preston Williams last year? I did not. What is it? I'll take a shot. I don't take a guess. 60 targets. Is it between 50 and 60? Yes. Not quite. You thought he was leading you to a 55. Yeah, I thought we were getting a good 55. Yeah. Which also is terrible. It's 53%. Whoa, it's even worse. 32 of 60 targets.
But Anthony Miller is about 61%. Remember Josh Rosen. Remember the Rosen? Yes. He was there. Forget the Rosen. All right. Let's do some mailbag before we close out. Mailbag. Mailbag. Oh my gosh. Yeah. And we need like the public apology has to happen now. I never apologize. Well, Jason's the majority owner of this apology, but we all have equity. I don't know what I'm apologizing for.
I've never gotten more feedback than when Jason contended that Ireland was part of the United Kingdom. I'd like the people out there to know that we are better informed now. Oh my gosh. We are so much better informed. Seceded from the United Kingdom in 1922. Northern Ireland is, correct me if I'm wrong people. Northern Ireland is part of the UK.
Yes, as far as my research has shown. Then I apologize for nothing. Also, if you're taking my geographic, like, look, I think people were more disappointed in myself and Andy. Actually, yeah, Mike got some comments about like, you know, Mike's a studious man at times and they were expecting him to correct Jason and in the correction never came. And then I just kind of went, I just said, oh, it is? And I should never have done that. I've always been confused that they just have multiple names.
over there. It starts with the base of England, and then they have another name, like Great Britain. Okay, now we include a few more. Now we go United Kingdom. Now we include a few more. It's like, it's confusing for stupid Americans. Yeah, because the technical name is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. So I would, that's a lot of words. I would contend. Northern what? Then Northern Ireland. Yeah, baby. I'm sticking. Look, I apologize. There was a lot of Ireland. For nothing. That's why they call it Ireland.
There was tons of ire. There was tons of. Oof. No, I apologize to those who are in southern Ireland. Southern Ireland. Yes. Also, ironically, you're talking about how, you know, these England naming principles are difficult for us Americans. And yet the weirdest thing we have in America is New England. New England where it's like, wait, this is not a state. As a child.
There was nothing more confusing about geography than New England. I had no idea where it was. If I put you on the spot right now, Jason, I can see you about to type. If I put you on the spot right now, can you name the states that are part of New England? No. I mean, I know Massachusetts and Maine, I believe. I think Maine is in there. Maine is in there. Vermont? I mean, if Maine is in there. Yes. Yes. Those have to be. Okay. You guys almost have them all. There's two more.
Is Rhode Island in there? Yep. You only got one more. Oh, gosh. You guys almost nailed it. You're really redeeming yourself completely. Yeah, New England. Is Pennsylvania in there? No. Oh, I would never have gone Pennsylvania. It's so close. Dang it. Jason, what are you going to go with? The answer is not Ireland, by the way. It is not Connecticut, right? It is Connecticut, right? It is Connecticut, yes. Because I said Connecticut a minute ago, and he didn't respond. It is Connecticut. Beautiful. There's New England for you. We got it. That is, man, we are so good at this geography. Yeah. Tom Brady owns all those states.
Yeah, it's like, what's the capital of New England? They don't have one. No. They're not a problem. It doesn't exist. It's a region. It's an idea. It's an idea. Yeah. All right. Okay. Questions. Thomas in Juneau, Alaska. Considering we all anticipate James Connor to miss time, who would we expect to get the most work in replacing him? Would it be rookie Anthony McFarland Jr., Jalen Samuels, or Benny Snell? I have my answer, but I want to hear you guys first. I believe based on what has been said,
from the team and what we saw last year. I think it will be Benny Snell. That's what I think too. I think it'll be Benny Snell as well. The most electric player to borrow from Carolina is Anthony McFarlane. He's so good, man. He's fun to watch, but I just don't think he is a guy they can rely on to come in and touch the ball 15 times. It actually reminds me a little bit of the Darwin Thompson hype in Kansas City, where McFarland is great, but how much
Was McFarland a fifth round pick as well? Am I remembering that right? You are possibly remembering it right. Yeah, fourth or fifth? No, he was a fourth. Yeah, I agree with you. I think it would be Benny Snell in that situation when it comes. Yep. When it comes. Sad, but true. Armin in Tucson, Arizona, who is the better fantasy career? T.J. Hawkinson or Noah Fant? Full PPR Dynasty League.
It's a great question because I'm going to... Here's the answer. I have it. I figured it out. I have no idea. Oh, well. Sorry for asking a question, Armin. I don't even have... I really don't have an angle on it. Like, Hawkinson dropped so many passes last year that could have given him a wonderful season. Fant had explosive plays, low volume. We didn't see him with Drew Locke. If I had to bet on one right now, I'm betting on Fant.
If I had to bet on one, it would be Hawkinson. I liked him more coming in last year. Both guys showed flashes and disappearing acts, which is to be expected in a rookie year for a tight end. Sure. I liked Hawkinson in the pre-draft process, I think, and expect him to be on the field more often. He's a good run blocker. And, you know, I always saw him more in a...
you know, in a Greg Olson type of role where he's always out there leaking out for passes. And I trust the quarterback situation there, which obviously has to factor in. What's funny for Hawkinson is I think we are disappointed because his week one was so good. Yeah. Like he came out. He sucks. I mean, which is totally fair because everybody went out and rushed to the waiver wire to pick him up. Right. But if he sucked week one, then he would have sucked the entire year. Yes.
But this expectation would not have changed and formulated against Hawkinson. It would have just been, oh, he's a rookie tied in. He was a high first round pick. It takes some time. It's funny that a player who had success makes you feel more negative about him. I understand what you're saying, but that is the flashes that Jason's talking about. You've got to see.
a game-changing week, changing tight-in performance. Mind you, it was only in one week. And against Arizona, who everyone had a game-changing week. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. So, his trajectory went up towards the back half of the year, whereas Hawkinson didn't really come back into the fantasy relevance at all during the season. He's obviously the higher draft capital guy. Yeah. He's the player that had opportunities and blew it. So I, like I said, Jason and I disagree. I don't know the answer. It's,
