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A 100-percent-loss weekend overturns process
The hosts claim that somehow every fantasy manager lost, send listeners through a fantasy burn unit with bandages everywhere and points falling, and let Jason answer his costly Derek Carr stream by proposing results over process: skip the process and always be right.
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Monday Punday becomes a tight-end disaster ward
Listener submissions process the bad weekend through familiar player-name mutations, beginning with sparse successes and collapsing into Mark Scamdrews, Trey McGlide, Sam La Poop Dispense, Travis Smelcy, Brock Bowel Movement, Isaiah Unlikely, Calvin Didley Squat, Justin Hurtbert, J.K. Sobbins, Faker Mayfield, and Dude Where's My Carr.
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Dr. Internet moves a lateral ankle into the uterus
A host asks AI whether Sam LaPorta's right lateral ankle sprain is high or low. The answer defines right lateral as the right side of the uterus, leaving the injury unresolved and earning a sarcastic thank-you to Dr. Internet.
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Kyle's two research beats remain visually and audibly offscreen
The desk credits Kyle with a Bryce Young stat—583 attempts, no offensive touchdown of twenty-plus yards, and three such scores to opponents—then asks him to recover C.J. Stroud's Truth-series splits. The plus-7.7 home and minus-7.7 top-defense figures return, but no shot reveals Kyle and the answer's voice is not uniquely attributable to him.
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Tyler Badie becomes the Bidet
Learning that Tyler Badie pronounces his surname like bidet turns a nine-for-seventy rushing performance into cleaning, washing, spraying, seat-fit, and small-bidet jokes. Dude Looks Like a Baby becomes Dude Looks Like a Bidet, the hosts identify him as the Bidet, and one explicitly says the nickname is being updated.
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The tight-end apocalypse prescribes a clothed shower
Mark Andrews's four routes demand an FBI investigation, and the proposed weekly response is to enter a shower fully clothed, weep, wail, and become soggy outside because nothing matters. A ten-point family-saving challenge leaves Jason's family dead, and the position is finally labeled hot, liquid doo-doo while listeners propose replacing tight end with a flex.
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Complete published-video review confirms Andy, Jason, and Mike live at the desk in ordinary studio clothing. The standard opening also displays the five-person WITH THE DUCERS portrait card for Brooks/Judge Giamatti, Josh/Papa Josh, Jeremy/Owl Borland, Matt/The Falcon, and Kyle/The Borgogon; because it is prerecorded and no live booth cut occurs, the card does not establish that any producer is physically present. No Jay Griz image, line, drop, cue, cutout, fourth microphone, or fill-in appears. A generic black bear in the routine animated intro remains an uncredited montage animal and is not treated as Jay. The hosts declare that somehow 100 percent of fantasy players lost, imagine listeners emerging from a fantasy burn unit with bandages everywhere and points going downward, and let Jason answer his failed Derek Carr stream by proposing results over process: simply skip the process and always be right. Monday Punday turns listener submissions into Rashi Nice, Joe Won My Weak Jennings, Dandy Dalton, Kywin Williams, Chuba Hubba Hubbard, Amari Super, Marvin There He Is-son Jr., Malik Ebers, and a tight-end disaster run led by Mark Scamdrews, Trey McGlide, Sam La Poop Dispense, Travis Smelcy, Brock Bowel Movement, and Isaiah Unlikely. Asked whether a right lateral ankle sprain is high or low, an AI answer places the right lateral on the right side of the uterus and earns a Dr. Internet thank-you. Kyle is explicitly credited with submitting Bryce Young's 583 attempts without a 20-plus-yard touchdown and is later asked to retrieve C.J. Stroud's Truth-series splits; the returned plus-7.7 home and minus-7.7 top-defense figures are heard while video stays on the hosts, but the speaker is not uniquely identifiable as Kyle, so he remains mention-only rather than a producer voice. The Broncos discussion discovers that Tyler Badie's preferred pronunciation sounds like bidet, turns rushing production into washing and spraying jokes, converts Dude Looks Like a Lady into Dude Looks Like a Bidet, and explicitly announces a nickname update. The final tight-end collapse asks the FBI to investigate Mark Andrews running four routes, prescribes entering a shower fully clothed to weep and wail after each start, concludes Jason's family is doomed if one tight end must score ten points to save them, and calls the position hot, liquid doo-doo. Targeted frames confirm that the AI screen, bandages, pun cards, bidet, shower, wet clothes, family-threat tableau, FBI imagery, and Kyle are all dialogue-only; the only episode-specific visual treatments are standard monitor labels and produced show graphics.
Hope of the Mahomes, which is like one in a generation. So you lose a bunch of games and you recycle, recycle, Recycle, Trebisky Fields, Caleb, on we go. But like, you can win so many games with a Dalton or a Fitzpatrick. They can really hurt you, though, depending on your franchise. Like, I don't want to be a middle of the pack franchise. I would rather, like, if I'm building a team, I don't, here's what Andy Dalton's and all these guys need to do. You're Nick Foles, you're Andy Dalton's, your players who are. They can win you games. They are good. The Joe Flackos. They need to not go to teams like Carolina. They need to go to teams who are great. They need to be backing up Mahomes. They need to be backing up, you know, even Aaron Rogers with a great Jets defense or something, you know, where it's like if the backup needs to come in, we can win a Super Bowl with this guy. You know, Nick Foles did it with the Eagles. It's like that's where those type of players need to be because they're not going to help a franchise.
to get to six, seven wins and then not be able to get a good enough pick and then yada yada. Do you have anything to say to a quarterback on pace for 45 passing touchdowns? Yeah, Sam Darnel. Jason, three and O Sam Darnel, three and O fantasy superstar Sam Darnham, who threw for four touchdowns and could have been five because of a penalty. I said he looked great the first two weeks, but I really wanted to see a third week against what I think was a good defense in the Houston Texans. and he did not look good. He looked pretty, pretty great. He was, I mean, he's been slinging it, man, and even when weapons have gone down, Justice Jefferson obviously helps a ton. That guy is always open, like wide open. Like, I don't, you know, when you're watching the broadcast angle, you don't even understand what happens. You just, they drop back to pass and they throw the ball and there's Justice Jefferson with no one within four yards of him. Remember the part of the off season where it seemed like they were cursed?
because they lost like Addison had the problem and then you lost J.J. McCarthy and injuries were everywhere and Minnesota fans were screaming in the street. Now it seems like they've, what did you say? They've been touched by an angel. Yeah. Oh man. Yesterday they were. They were. Everything that happened. Everything that happened. If he threw a pick that the defender got a hand on and it tipped it up, it just went to his guy. Is next week though, next week is he the pumpkin of the week? Because Carr was the pumpkin of the week this week. Looked amazing. Next week he's got to go to Lambo. I already, you know, going to Lambo and performing in division, very difficult. Yeah. Is he the pumpkin of next week? I think it, I don't think so. I know he was at home for these two games, but like the 49ers, they're one and two. They're still a very good team. The Houston, Texas are a very good team. And he just. Pumpkin. Like, you're calling for the pumpkin? I really hope not.
Yeah, I really hope not too. I really, really hope not because if he doesn't pumpkin in Lambo. If they beat Green Bay and Green Bay, they won't sell up to work on Monday. And two, this is like super for real this team. Like this offense, his defense. The defense is is legit. But my point is if he doesn't pumpkin this week in Lambo, do you know where he goes and plays the week after? The Jets. He goes home, baby. Take it to him, Donald. Super revenge game. Yeah. Most revenge games, you just laugh about it because a player changed teams. No, this one. This, you think Andy Dalton doesn't want to go out and throw 500 yards on the Jets. This is, I mean, Gino Smith. Darnel. Yes. Gino Smith, Sam Darnold. These, Malik Willis this week. These reclamation projects by good franchises. Wait, Donald and Gino were both first round Jets picks. Gino is the second rounder.
Oh, was it? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, they were. But I mean, it's like, but they were still picks by the Jets. I mean, Justin Fields is three and oh, guys. Yeah. Maybe you don't put them in a position to make the mistakes that he was making before. Like he's executing an offense. He's not as exciting for fantasy, but you're winning ball games. That's what Malik Willis did. Man. Okay. Seekwan continues his assault on all things good. Uh, 17 for 1, 49 and 2. He's touched. the ball on 40% of all offensive snaps. And it's going up because if Devante Smith misses and AJ Brown's out again, it's the Saquan or bust and Dallas Goddard offense. Dallas Goddard. So you went wild. Sequin has been great. I mean, I saw the question asked online of like, you know, who's the 101 if we were to redo it right now? You know, if you were drafting today.
Who would you draft first? And Sequin is in the conversation, at least, of like he might be. With what's happened with Braylon Allen, with Bejan still being in a timeshare. Yeah. I mean, why wouldn't he, why wouldn't you? You got Justin Jefferson out there. Oh, I thought you were just saying running backs. But yeah, I mean. Yeah, I mean, but he's in the conversation. Justin, Bejohn, Brees, you know, Sequan, CD. That's probably the list. NFL underdogs. Ben Fox posted this. NFL underdogs of five plus. 5.5 points. So if you're an underdog by more than 5.5 points, they are now 13 and 2 against the spread this season with nine outright wins of the 13. So if you think that Vegas can predict what's going on, you'd be wrong. Wow. This isn't any given Sunday cliche is so true. That's the parody, man. That's what makes the NFL great, though, is that you can have the Raiders come back and beat the Ravens.
Have the Ravens blow out the Cowboys and then have the Panthers blow out the Raiders who came back to beat the Ravens. And it's 11 on 11, right? It's like if three guys ate the wrong thing that morning, the game can completely change. Like it's so interdependent on how individuals play but also as a team is wild. I love it. I think about it all the time in the beginning of the year, this time of year, like when we were leaving last week and there's some teams that are 0 and 2. you know, like the Panthers, where you go, I literally don't see how they win a game. I don't see a method for this team to be even in a game and then they win the next week. With 36 points, the number one on the week. Yeah. Let's just make sure that the right people are getting the touchdowns. That is something we're going to work on people. Give me the parody. I love it. I love the upsets. I love the comebacks. But you want a little I yuk, not all Jennings. Yeah.
We want a little c.D. Lamb, not all turban. Or turpin. Turpin. Is that turban the running back? No, not Robert Turban, but yeah, turpin. It's just like the, especially in the morning games. It was just, it was all touchdowns by guys. Wait, who? Who scored? Yeah. Oh, cool. Kyron scored three times. Kyron Williams in the comeback victory that looked all but over early and was not. He has scored. A lot of touchdowns since the beginning of 2023, 20 of them. And he plays Chicago, very tough defense next week. He's a machine, man. 91% of snaps week one. Yeah, I took the L on Twitter this morning. This is not a committee. 79% week two, 90% week three. And you see, you know. Well, I mean, in losing these past catchers, like the Kairn's the one proven commodity you have. I will, I will say this, though. Here's a W that you can have. I don't know if you notice this, but late in the game.
You know, game on the line. The Niners, they force him to punt. And it was a big return. That wasn't Kyron. No, Kyron. It's like, okay, we can't have Karen returning. Yeah, you can't risk it. We need him out there too much. I didn't notice that. Thank you. Derek Henry ran for 151 and two. Where is Derek? Speaking of Sequin being the 101. I'm not saying that Derek Henry should be, but he's been. He's also been very good. And like, I get it. He's, yeah, we, we didn't bring him in here, whatever, to be the focal point of the offense, except he's playing fantastic. They gave him 25 carries yesterday. So liar, liar pads on fire. I mean, 13, 18, 25 the last three weeks. There's just about no more game scripty player. You know, this is Derek Henry is the Yeti in victories. And they, even though.
I mean, this game was a blowout. This game was a blowout victory for the most part. Derek Henry just running the clock out until all of a sudden you snap your fingers and it was almost an upset. But if they're in big wins, Derek Henry will eat. Dallas's run defense so far. They've given up the fourth most rushing yards allowed ever, or sorry, over the last decade through three games and the most rushing touchdowns through three games over the last decade. It's one of the worst you've ever seen. Jonathan Taylor, outstanding. Chuba Hubbard, amazing. 21 for 114 and 5 for 55. And a touchdown through the air. He had a big, big week, as did Zach Charbonnet in Seattle. He did. And Aaron Jones, a very nice week, caught a touchdown pass, 19 for 102 on the ground, is averaging 5.4 a carry. He also gets to go back to Green Bay next week and faces old franchise with a 3-0 Minnesota Vikings team.
Nice. That's really fun. I feel like that's a little bit of legit revenge. Yeah. Because he wanted to be there. Yeah. Yeah. And then David Montgomery and Jamir Gibbs once again, both had big days. Gibbs is path. I don't know who posted it. Somebody shared a funny meme of like Montgomery's path to a good game. Is this very linear, simple. You know how it has to work. Yeah. And then Jemir Gibbs is like, it's all over the, it's a past catchier. Oh, here's a lateral for a touchdown. Here's a big run. Like zero targets? Yeah. And yet he had a receiving touchdown. That's, is that how it goes? Yeah, I guess. I mean, for Jemir Gibbs to go out and put up a, what is it, 17, 18 point week with no, I mean, this is best week of the year, fantasy wise. But yeah, both of those players are just, they're dominant. We've watched the.
lions with a close eye and it's like they start with Montgomery and it's just Montgomery then they go to Gibbs and it's just Gibbs and then they do some ping pong drives and it's all over the place does that mean Jared Goff gets a passing touchdown for no but it is a receiving touchdown I believe yeah that's so wild I thought it would be a rushing touchdown for him from that point like it basically almost like that's how I thought it counted but the the stats are showing that it's a receiver but it's not but there's no PPR points No. That's how to pad your yards per reception, man. 20 yards, no reception. Just add it to the rest. Um, hey guys, Juan Jennings. Oh, man. 11 for 175 and 3. Hope you started him. We did. I mean, I'm happy. We said he's like the spot start of the week. He's in my, uh, draft Kings lineup and I. Dude. I just loved him this week, but man. So did, uh, Brock Purdy. But he performed. I mean, it was contested catches. It was big plays. It was red zone.
And next week is New England probably, you know, Debo won't be back. Is Joanne Jennings now, like do you follow this up with, you could do a lot less and be great still? Like, Joanne Jennings next week with how Brandon Ayuse looking should be in play? If Debo and Kittle are out, he is a very good start. Yeah. And you've got there. He's going to be a big waiver pickup tomorrow. I think it's Christian Gonzalez who's looked pretty good. their their rookie corner so you know if that's on brandon i you then juan jennings can uh find brock pretty sophomore corner oh thank you he missed most of his rookie year though uh malik neighbors eight for 78 and two unstoppable player and the great news was daniel jones looked competent you know daniel jones before the game had the better best passing rating in that division i did not realize over jaden hurts and dack
and then went out and performed that well? He actually looked like we were talking about this while we were watching the game. We were really, really surprised by how competent he looked. 24 movement of 34. He made good reads. He extended plays. Like his offensive line still stinks. And he hyper-targeted the best player on the team by a long shot. Yeah. Yeah, NFL. Do that stuff. Do that stuff. It works. Malik Neighbors is a. superstar he's just he is to come in as a rookie and just everyone knows it's going to him and not every throw is great and it's just like mine mine that's mine wide receivers to score 65 plus fantasy points in their first three career games since 2005 it's my league neighbors that's it that's the greatest start in 20 years hey there he is follow the targets we talked about it
It was, it's easy to waver, but Amari Cooper, the target shot up to 12 this week. He was already way up there in the NFL lead in targets. Seven for 86 and two. Yeah, it was a monstrous game. Hopefully you stayed the course. It's hard to do when a guy is underperforming, but if the targets are there. So how do you, how do you judge the, I mean, I made a trade last week, traded Jameson Williams for Amari Cooper, tried to buy Amari Cooper low. Last week looked like the worst trade in my life. This week, complete opposite. Who wins that deal? And should I quit fantasy? The answer to the second one is no. Who wins that deal is TBD? I think a lot of it, I want to see what the injury looks like for Sam Leporta. If he's out, it'll be closer. But right now, I mean, the targets are clearly on Cooper's side. But Deshawn Watson. Oh, my mercy, sweet. Goodness, that dude's going to die.
I don't remember any game where, and this is the Giants defense. I felt like he played pretty well and yet had no chance. He snapped the ball. There were, I mean, it was like a lot to be made about how bad Caleb Williams line was. I'm telling you. 16 sacks and three games. It's the most in the NFL right now. I mean, that's what it feels like. It feels exactly like what it is, which is. He does hold it too long. Oh, some of it's on him for sure. And sometimes there's nothing he could have done. Yeah, but some of it isn't on him.
So, you know, half, half and half. Rashi Rice was amazing. Set a career high in receptions, 12 for 1, 10, and 1, and leads all players in yards after the catch and missed tackles, forced. Deonté Johnson, 8 for 1, 22, and a touchdown. The 14 targets, that's what I wanted to see. I wanted to see when Dalton comes in, who's his number one target. And Adam Thielen, probably going to miss some time. Deonti Johnson is going to be, that's a tough one. I imagine he goes right into your starting lineup against the Cincinnati Bengals. Oh, woof. Roma Dunzee was awesome. Six for one, 12 in a touchdown. 11 targets. DJ Moore was not awesome. No. DJ Moore lucked into a 55-yard Hail Mary. Yes. Or 44-yard Hail Mary. But Roma Dunzee, this was encouraging. Yeah, no, it was a really good game, especially as he's gotten a little bit past his injury. We're doing a podcast.
He was just saying the gap. I was waiting for you to talk. Yeah. How do you feel about Roma Dunzee? I feel very good about him. I think he's, you know, if Keenan is out, that allows him to be higher in the packing order. But again, the end of game numbers were there for Caleb. It was not a good game for Caleb. If you watch the game so many poor passes, like, you know, what was your end takeaway? Terrible performance. Okay. I wasn't sure if it was just myself from what I saw and I'm, you know, having a biased lens because of anything. But the overall performance looked really, really bad. He just couldn't finish plays. He's evasive. He can get out of the pocket. And then most of his decisions getting out of the pocket were to chuck it downfield as far as he can throw it instead of like, you know, making a different decision. It was weird. So, yeah, Trey Tucker.
Seven for 96 and a touchdown. He'll come up on the waiver show because that's a big week. Yeah, I mean, very, I don't know. Nine targets. Yeah, not 81% of the snaps. I mean, he had been a player for the Raiders who the drumbeat of the off season was, like, it was pretty loud of the coaching staff saying that this, he's going to be the player that no one sees having a good year. But then he ends up having a good year. So maybe. He might be a speculation. And Brock Bowers in that game only got four targets. I would never expect Trey Tucker. Boulmovement. Yes, I would never expect Trey Tucker to be higher in the pecking order than Brock Bowers on a regular basis. I don't think I'll be in on Trey Tucker. I might try to buy low on Brock Bowers if someone's disappointed. D.K. MacCow 4-104 in a touchdown. Chris Olavay, six for 86 in a touchdown. Someone did something for the Saints. Yes, you called it, Andy. His breakout was going to happen, and it did.
Thank you, Chris. Jefferson, six for 81 and a touchdown. All the yards came in the first half. He's unguardable. You had Alman Ra with a touchdown. Hopkins, six for 73. Hopkins looked good in this game. I'm laughing at Amun Ra's, the forced touchdown to him was so ridiculous of Jared Goff not reading the play. Because Jemir Gibbs was. was as open as open can possibly get for a player in the NFL. And then Jerogov's like, no, man, hold on. We call this play for the sun god. We're going to get him the ball. I mean, I have Gibbs and I was facing Alman Ra and to watch that play unfold where Gibbs is standing with no one around him. And then like Amon Ra had to make a diving catch. Gibbs is on the goal line directly in front of golf wide open. I mean, you could have, he could have granny thrown that to Gibbs. And it would have been a touchdown.
But it was a touchdown, so congrats, Tom and Rahm. Yeah, what a read. Spon Diggs, 10 for 94. Yeah, what's our current read on the Stefan Diggs versus Tankdale situation? I think that Stefan Diggs in this game was just a product of a great Minnesota defense and garbage time checkdowns. I mean, it was 9.4 a catch. Davis Mills came into this game. I'm not reading too much into it. But I mean, I was worried about Tank Dell. And I was worried about everybody beyond Nico. Did you see the final four plays of the game, by the way? Where they were trying to get Nico a touchdown? They threw four straight end zone targets to Nico for zero touchdowns. That's because that was Davis Mills throwing it, right? Yeah. But it was four attempted forced targets and none of them worked. That must have been frustrating for Nico managers. Dallas Goddard is on fire. Wait, wait, is that the right number? What, the 10 for 170? He was 170? Yeah. He was having a great game, very used.
at the, I don't know if it was his final catch, but there was one where the defense forgot that Dallas Goddard plays for the Philadelphia Eagles and he was on the sideline and he ran forever. Yeah, 61 yard reception. For Dallas Goddard. I wonder how far we have to go back to see a 61 yard reception for him. I'm going to check. I'm going to do that. That sounds like a fun task. I can tell you really quick that it has never happened. Okay. Yeah. Jake Ferguson had a good game, six for 95. I think we were optimistic that would happen. Colquamette out of nowhere, 10 for 97 and a touchdown. He is going to be fascinating to try and figure out what's going on because he had been essentially buried behind Gerald Everett, Shane Waldron's dude. And like week one, 48% of the snaps a target. Next week, a pretty good jump up to 77%.
then to 81% of the snaps and 11 targets in this game. I think the more important thing is the inverse of that, which was Gerald Everett, who started in week one playing 61% of the snaps and then was down to 33%, only one target in this game. If I knew that Gerald Everett wasn't a piece of it, because he's, like you said, he's Shane Waldron's guys, followed him everywhere. Cole Commit is a, I mean, a hundred thousand times better player than Gerald Everett. He did get a little banged up at the end of this, though, so we'll want to watch the practice reports us next week. All right. We'll take a break. We'll talk about some duds, and you guys can let me know if I need to hit the panic alarm. All right. All right. We're going to talk about the disappointing performances for the next three hours. And you guys let me know if any of these players you're panicked about. Poopped in his big boy pants. Skip to the second one, Andy. Jalen?
hurts sorry i'm going to go with the first one all right um no touchdown passes it did was it really that bad it was not good he had 311 10 fantasy points passing yards 25 rushing yards he had an interception just no touchdowns and as far as sorry worrying going forward i don't worry long term but short term if he doesn't have devante smith and he doesn't have a j brown then they're going to run the ball with Saquan a lot. And so you're hoping to get a tush push touchdown or one passing touchdown. So I can't, I can't fathom you would, you know, bench hurts or that you have another option. But it's probably going to be a down game until he gets his dudes back. Four interceptions, three fumbles, more turnovers than Daniel Jones by a margin. It's been shaky for sure.
and a lot of people were disappointed. Anthony Richardson, 10 for 20, which is exactly his peak, possible accuracy. I haven't heard anybody on Twitter attacking me for my preseason take over the last two weeks. He's not running a ton. He's not throwing it consistently. His drives are disrupted by good play, bad play. And, I mean, he had a great pass to Alec Pierce down the sideline. and then flung a ball to three defenders in the end zone. And I know it was tipped, but it was a weirdly ill-advised pass that might have been picked anyways. He's just like a rookie. Yes. Yeah, and I think it's a matter of you play the matchups. I was worried going into this week. Chicago Bears defense is fully legit. So this is full bench next week. This is full bench next week against the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Steelers keep.
games low scoring. They turn the ball over. They sack the quarterback. So yeah, this is full bench for Anthony Richardson next week. Anthony Richardson has three passing touchdowns on the year. He has six interceptions and two fumbles on the year. Yeah. And if do not hear what we're not saying. You do not hear what we're not saying. Did I, did I too many notes? No, I think you're good. All right. Okay. We're not saying to drop Anthony Richardson. this is a guy who can do something that other players can't. And in the right matchup, he's going to have, you know, three to five more games this year where he's winning you the week. He's the quarterback won two or three on the week. So you want to play the matchups for now, and it's just bench him, don't drop him. All right. Where are we moving now? CJ Stroud struggled immensely against Minnesota. So C.J. Stroud has been the QB8.
16 and 20 currently 22 could drop even lower than 22 I mean not always easy is it no no it is not in it's I mean when you're a pocket passer you will you will have inconsistencies but we still like I did we're not seeing it I think it's important that we view him as and I know this this is not going to be a popular thing to say or here But I really think right now we need to be viewing him as a streaming quarterback as a matchup play. I know he's got the three superstar wide receivers and he could sling it out and he's certainly going to be great. But if you look at his splits last year, we talked about this in the truth series. His splits against good opponents and his home road, like the combination, they were wildly drastic.
massacred bottom 16 defenses, made him look silly, made him look like they shouldn't even belong on the field. And against top defenses, he really, really struggled. It was like a, Kyle, I don't know if you can find that data from the true series, but it was insane. It was like a... eight or a 10 point swing between those top defenses and bottom beaters. His last 17 games played, he only has 41% of those over 20 points. I mean, you can be a better fan or a better NFL quarterback than a fantasy quarterback. Patrick Mahomes is not finished inside the top 10 in any of his games. He's a great quarterback. That's where Stroud is falling into that category right now where, you know, they want to have a good running game. Joe Mixon was not there and Minnesota is a great defense. And so it was kind of.
They put Stroud into a box yesterday, and he couldn't climb out of it by himself. I mean, Acres was seven for 21 on the ground. You didn't have a running game. Yeah, so here's the splits from last year. Home road splits. He was plus 7.7 fantasy points better at home than on the road. And when you talk about top 16 versus bottom 16 defenses, he was 7.7 points worse against the good defenses. And maybe there's not an answer that we have to this question right now. Because I don't disagree, Jay, of like, maybe we need to reevaluate how we're looking at Stratt, at least for now. Who is not a stream-only quarterback at this point of the NFL season? So I think you've got the top guys, the top mobile rushing guys, like Josh.
Lamar is not a streaming quarterback. Tyler's not a streaming quarterback. I agree with that. Josh Allen is obviously not. And Hertz is not a streaming quarterback. Obviously when the- Yeah, those four. But I think the strategy needs to be right now in most of these leagues. You need to be rostering multiple quarterbacks. You know, if you've got C.J. Strud, you need to be picking up Gino Smith or Brock Purdy or the engine. And looking at matchups. I'm just saying like I've got, I'm going to play the better option this week. Like Derek Carr? I mean, sometimes it's not going to work, brother, but you got to try. Like Baker? Well, it's just a hard, it's a hard game to play. Is Mahomes a streaming quarterback? Oh, shut your mouth.