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You know, 35-year-old Frank Gore. But I do think that there are GMs that still believe in Adrian Peterson. I mean, you know, Adrian Peterson last year. Maybe. Thousand-plus yards. Yeah, see, that's the thing that's in Adrian Peterson's favor. Also two years younger than Frank Gore. But Frank Gore got a job in free agency. Adrian Peterson got the training camp job because of someone got hurt. You think Gore's back this year? I'm not even sure he's back this year. No, he could be retired. I think.

I think Peterson will outlast him. All right, Seth on Instagram, what is Pat Mahomes' dynasty value in a six-point passing TD League? It's certainly very high. That's a big question. Well, I mean, like in a startup, what round do you think, you know, you would take Pat Mahomes? And obviously, if this was a two-quarterback or super flex league, you're talking in the first few pinks. Yeah. You could, I know you're, you're, you know, late quarterback. And I totally get that. I usually am too.

But if I'm at the third pick and Pat Mahomes is still on the board and a Superflex, I might be considering that. Otherwise, in a single quarterback league, it changes drastically for me. And I would say probably third round would be the earliest I would consider taking him. Third round, Mike? No, I would not take him in the third round. You'd wait? Yeah. I would not take him in third round. And just by the way, like one thing we can actually agree on in this question is six point passing touchdown.

It doesn't matter. Makes no difference. Like if you're in a 4 point or a 6 point. But if you're in a 30 point per passing touchdown, Lee. And it still doesn't matter. Unless it's Patrick Mahomes. I guess it really does matter at that point. Patrick Mahomes gets 30 points per touchdown. Well, it doesn't matter because they all get 30. Well, it actually does matter at that point because you would, if one quarterback touchdown accounted for all the same points that the rest of your team scored.

Then it wouldn't know. We're trying to make the point in a 30 point per passing touchdown league. They're rare. But yes. The point is that the water level rises with the points scored. So whether it's three, four, five, six, as long as it's not outlandish, it's more about which quarterback. I mean, he's the number one dynasty quarterback. Yeah. And the reason it's hard to take him even in the third round where you could argue mathematically the value is there.

for him compared to other people on the board there. But what you're forgetting about is that late in the drafts, you know, you can get James Winston, who's a young, you know, bright future. Now the Arians has bought in and, you know, they're going to let Fitzpatrick go. James Winston will cost you very little in a draft. And, you know, the players that are there in the third round, you're going to need for years and years and years at wide receiver.

and running back. So I'm looking at their good friends of ours, but Dynasty League football, they track their own ADP. And right now, Patrick Mahomes is an end of the second round guy. I see him at 35 in my list on another, a consensus. But here are a player. So if you take Patrick Mahomes, that means that you have passed on Travis Kelsey, Dalvin Cook, Brandon Cooks, Zach Ertz, George Kittle, Kerry on Johnson, Sony, Michelle.

These are guys all going after Patrick Mahomes. I don't know if you named somebody on that list that I was like, yeah, definitely. Oh, really? Every single name I would definitely take over Pat Mahomes. Yeah. Well, I mean, you look at a guy like Kelsey over Patrick Mahomes. Like I get Kelsey's value, but how long is that going to be long enough? 29 years old, I believe, right now. Yeah. If you're giving me at least. But Mahomes is 23 years old. Yeah, but you're giving me three years at least. Then three years at.

elite production? I would take that over. I think you do see a variety of opinions on this, though, because I've seen him as high as number eight or nine on redraft, or I mean on dynasty startup drafts, because if you could, let me put the question to you differently. And I know this is hard to do, but it's still a possibility. Let's say you pencil in 45 touchdowns a year for Pat Mahomes for the next 10 years.

Then I'd take him in the first round. 100%. I think that's why you see the variety is we don't have enough track record. Yeah. And for everyone out there thinking, well, look what he did this year. He was a huge, I mean, when we're saying we're taking him in the third round, we're not anticipating he throws 50 touchdowns next year. It's not going to happen. No, but he could be entering the NFL at a time in which 40 is his baseline. He could be a 40 touchdown guy for his entire career. He could, but if I'm getting...

If I'm having replaceability at the quarterback where I can take two or three guys, and I know in a matchup that they have a high probability of throwing two, maybe even three touchdowns. And so my quarterback is throwing 33 touchdowns? Yeah. That's the route that I take. No, and that's... I get the security that people feel of Patrick Mahomes. I mean, right now, he is ironclad the way that people view him. It could be an illusion, though.

Because Carson wins. I mean, he looked like ironclad guaranteed guy last year. Things change. Yes. What happens if Tyreek Hill goes down at the beginning of next year? Yes. How many touchdowns does he throw? So, yeah, your point's well taken. All right, fantasy football bachelor party. James in Boston says loves the show. He rates it a 55 out of... All right, he says he's getting married in September.

And instead of a cliche bachelor party, I want to plan something involving fantasy football. Some of the guys are in leagues with me and some others are moderately interested. What do you guys and Jay Gris recommend? Oh, man, you've got to have the Bachelor League. Yeah.

That's exactly. Like everyone who's there, you need to, I don't know if you're going to have enough to fill 10 or 12 teens, but it doesn't matter. If you got eight guys there, you can figure it out. Just make sure it's an even number. It is timing up well with the marriage in September. You can draft this thing in August. You do a live draft, man. You've never experienced a live draft. Just come to our live show. Oh, you could do that too. I mean, that's a, you can work that into there. But a live draft, the thing I look forward to, the day I look forward to.

I like Christmas a little bit more. But our live draft that we have for our League of Record is top three day of the year for me. It's so much fun. I mean, you've got to go all out. I drive slow on the freeway, man. I can't risk an accident on the way there. Get an MC. Get someone to announce your draft, making an extravaganza, and you'll never be able to go back to online drafts. We have an article on the site by our editor-in-chief Kyle.

named five ways to make your live draft legit. You should check that out. He's probably talking about MCs. Yeah. All right, Instagram question from P-Money runs. Wait, what? Pimony runs. Let's just go with that. Pimoni. Raiders fan question. Is there any fantasy value to be had on this team talking about the Raiders? As of today.

You're a little bit hard pressed. Obviously, if Jared Cook resigns, he could be somewhat valuable there. And when you're starting off with Jared Cook, that's a bad situation. Here's the funniest part. If you look at like an ADP for like a dynasty draft right now, the earliest pick from the Oakland Raiders is the 143th pick in a dynasty draft. And is Jared Cook. Wow. Who's not even a Raider right now? Derek Carr is 165. Jalen Richard.

Jordan Nelson 210. The best value, they will probably go out and try to sign a big name running back. Well, they have to. Marshawn and Crampus himself, Doug Martin, are both three agents. Yeah, so, yeah, I would say that the most valuable rate are going into next year is going to be their starting running back who probably isn't on the team right now. That's fair. That's fair. Do you think Lynch is done again? I don't think he's going to go play somewhere other than Oakland.

Yeah, and they have, Oakland has all that turmoil. And they should be playing, though, in California again for at least one more year. I think he could come back, but I'm, right now I'm going to say he doesn't come back. All right. All right. Here's a question from Jordan in Fort Wayne, Indiana. Hey, ballers. My favorite fort. Yeah, that's mine too. I have pre-ordered the UDK, and I was curious how I throw my hat in the ring.

For the 2019 listener league. Well, well, Jordan, look, first off, you have already. Yeah. Because right now through, was it March 1st? Through March 1st. If you pre-order the ultimate draft kit at ultimate draft kit.com, you are automatically entered to win one spot in the 2019 listenerly. But other than that, it won't, we won't open this up until July, August, ish. And.

Honestly, the way that we get people in, we just, we want people to have a good time. I don't care about your Yahoo trophy case, your sleeper trophy case, your ESPN. I don't care how many tens of thousands of dollars you've won. We just want to make sure you're going to have fun in this league. And we like people who are big fans of the show because it's a common denominator between all of us. And so it's always fun. Jason didn't win last year. So there's one extra spot open. Well, there's not.

Because it's already taken by the champion. There's the same amount of spots open. I mean, I guess there's one fewer than usual. Yeah, that's right. Usually I win the champion. That's right. Jason normally, it's a worst situation for you out there. Yes. But, yeah, you. Big Fedora couldn't take it home. Once we start taking entries in, you can send in videos, you can send in, we've had everything. We've had, we've had videos, we've had political type speeches on video. Songs. Songs. We've had art.

Sent to us. Yeah. We've got a pair of back on the Foot Clan wall. We've got a pair of vans that are painted with our logo on them. The other tip besides no trophy case screenshots is too long didn't read, man. Don't send me a letter. We have hundreds of these things to go through. And I, and it's a shame because if you take the time out to write this big long 12 page letter to us, I feel like I should read it.

But too long didn't read. But I didn't. All right. So that's how you get in. You also get $10 right now to shopballers.com for free if you pre-order the ultimate draft kit. All right. This question comes in from Twitter from at Joshua underscore Orem. Big Bin's value with no AB or bell question mark? I think he'll be fine. I do not.

I honestly think he'll be okay. I think that Big Ben is going to be a very risky pick if you lose Antonio Brown. I mean, he is not. Your laws are going to be lower. Yeah. It's not like Big Ben has been this automatic stalwart top five fantasy quarterback year in and year out. He usually isn't, and that's with Antonio Brown. I think you take Antonio Brown off and he'll be a guy. I'm happy to draft in the double digit rounds because I do think he'll have great games, but he's a streamer.

Kirk Cousins or Big Ben if A.B. and Bell are gone. I would probably draft Big Ben over Kirk just because I'm afraid of what the Minnesota offense is going to turn into with the offensive coordinator change. I think they want a real Kirk Cousins back significantly. Baker versus Big Ben? Have we? I don't know if we have. No, that's a great one, though, because they're both going to be late in the draft. You'll be able to draft either one in the- Man.

in the 10th round. I know for me, I would rather take the shot at Baker. This is the argument I was making a while ago. That's not even to say that Baker will be ahead of my rankings. So Big Ben is 36. What did he finish as this past year? He finished. Let me pull it up. He's top five, right? He was the leading. He was the leading passer in the league. So here's his history. He was number three. Three. Okay. That's his best finish ever, by the way. He finished fifth.

back in 2014, but he's only finished inside the top 12 at the position. That would be five out of the last 11 years. Yeah, and Big Ben's, but Big Ben's biggest problem is missing games. Yeah. So his end of season is usually a bit lower than his actual per game that he's given you. Yeah, yeah, that's true. And that's part of the risk. And if you mix that in with no AB and no bell, I mean, maybe they make a splash, maybe they do something else, but it's probably going to come through the draft for them.

So who would you guys rather have between Big Ben and Baker? I would take Big Ben. I think I would take Ben right now. Yeah, you're coming off a number three finish. I'm not going to. I think between James Washington, Vance McDonald, and then whoever else they add. James Connor and Juju. I think that Big Ben will actually be okay. All right. This question. For fantasy. Yeah. Phil in St. Petersburg, Florida. Hey, fellas. Just purchased the UDK for the first time. Extremely excited.

to use it this year. I'm in a keeper league and have the option to keep Carry on Johnson. What? Carry on the... My guy. For a sound. How dare you? You stay away from my carry-on Johnson and Marlon Mack. When you're wearing that stupid hat, you get... I get nothing. I quit. Carry on Johnson for a seventh round pick, so you can keep Carry on for a seventh.