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Week 16 Matchups + Tough Decisions, Happy Holidays - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/23

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Week 16 Matchups + Tough Decisions, Happy Holidays | Fantasy Football 2022 - Ep. 1357

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Holiday matchup episode foregrounds Christmas cheer, playoff pressure, and the hosts' recurring golden-toilet/underpants vocabulary.

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somewhat of a time share in a terrible matchup where you are probably going to be losing. I just don't know that there's a lot of upside here for you. I think there's none. I think there's no upside for Brian Robinson. There's been no running back that has gained 60 yards against San Francisco this year. None. I question, you know, you talk about getting crazy with Gus Edwards. I don't want to do that, but that's like a legit question to say who's going to have more fantasy points, Gus Edwards or Brian Robinson. So if you've got. You know. Dion Jackson? Yeah, I would go Dionne Jackson. I would go Devin Singletary. What about the Falcons fellas? So Cordero Patterson or Tyler Algier. Yeah, I'll play both. I mean, it, those, those are really, those are really close. I think that you have probably a better touchdown opportunity with Brian Robinson just because of the Desmond Ritter thing. So that's coin flip. Okay. McCaffrey's in.

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We set it. Brian Robinson question. George Kittle, four for 93 and two touchdowns last week. That has to feel like a nice momentum situation heading into semifinal week. Yep. The matchup is bad, but the splits when George, when George Kittles on the field and one of the wide receivers are missing, George Kittle has big games. The most popular starts hit question on our website, the fantasy footballers.com. Brock Purdy, Gardner, Minshu. Oh my gosh. That's a great question. The Washington defense on the season. are second. They are the second worst matchup in schedule adjusted points at the quarterback position over the past six weeks. Seventh. I mean, like, this Washington defense, they're stout. They're not giving up fantasy points. I think I'd go Gardner. It was Gardner Minshew Brock Purdy? Yeah, I'd go Minshu. Okay.

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Speaking of Minshoe, Philadelphia, 13 and 1, taking on the 10 and 4 Dallas Cowboys. The Drafking Sportsbook line right now, Dallas minus 4 and a half. The overrunners, 46 and a half. This is a rematch, Philly 1 with Jalen Hurst, 26 to 17 in week 6. Without DAC, right? I believe that was a Cooper Rush game. Yeah. So, yeah, we're not going to. It might be the playoffs before you see these two teams with their both having full strength quarterback situations. Philly can lock up the number one seed and a buy with the win, Dallas. They are currently the fifth seed. So two teams that play very fast. No Jalen hurts, though. And so, you know, you really are hoping that Gardner can do enough with the weapons he has to keep up in this game. You know, you were looking at this as one that had a lot of offensive upside because of the quarterbacks. And so if you wanted a huge seedy lamb game, Tony Pollard, Ezekiel Elliott, Dak Prescott, Dalton Schultz, who.

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You know, a lot of people are counting on this week. You know, you hope that Gardner and AJ Brown and Devante can keep up. Yeah, I mean, the issue here is that you have two good defenses in a divisional matchup, and sometimes these turn into real slug fest and could be disappointing. But you also have two good offenses, and you have a controlled weather environment. So for this week, I think this is a game you want pieces in despite the fact that it's Gardner Minshu leading the way for the Eagles. When you're looking at... Guys like AJ Brown that's just so physically dominant, I don't really worry at all. He's not a question just because Gardner Minchu is there. He's in your lineup to me. Miles Sanders will probably get the ball more. They're not going to be able to run. Minchu is mobile, but they can't run the offense that they run with Jalen Hertz with so many designed runs because Minchu is so far away from that kind of athleticism. Let's talk about Miles Sanders a little bit more.

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The experience with Miles Sanders has been ridiculous. 28 fantasy points two weeks ago. Great. Scored two times, three targets, 28 fantasy points. Let's put him in a really plus matchup against the Chicago Bears. 1.4 fantasy points. He fumbled. One target. 11 attempts. This just puts some fear. I think you're kind of stuck with Miles Sanders if you have them at this point. Yeah, looking through the game log for Miles Sanders. It's... It's been all or nothing, really. But I think you keep playing him. And last week, they scored 48 points against the Giants. So they saw something that they could exploit. And that was a lot of Jalen Hertz running the ball. But I would still stick with Miles here. Even being that upset, he's had a fantastic season. Just so many finishes as a.

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as a top 24 guy, multiple finishes as a top 10 option. I'd stick with him. Now, Jason, what would you do? Would you do Gardner or Gino this week? I am. Let me just say Dallas is starting cornerbacks, Anthony Brown and Lewis are both out. Don't do this. the injuries to the Seahawks with Kenneth Walker and Goodwin and even Noah Fant. Like he has to have more than D.K. Mek have to throw the ball to as of right now. I am trying to stick to my thoughts of the original thought is strongest. I know that Gino's going to have to throw the ball a lot in that game. So I am sticking with Gino as of now. And I just can't wait for this weekend to be over.

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Dallas Goddard, are you nervous to plug him right back in? Would you play him over Darren Waller against Pittsburgh? I am a little bit nervous, not because of the injury necessarily, but it's also a really bad matchup. The Cowboys can guard him, can, you know, they've got the personnel to do it. The last six weeks, they've given up the second fewest points of the tight-in position. And then you do have the fact that like when you see a player come back, for instance, Darren Waller last week. you're probably not playing a full snap count. So I think Dallas Goddard is someone that you can play as a low end, but if you've got another good option, and I think Darren Waller is, I would play Darren Waller over Goddard. And then when it comes to Goddard versus Knox, you know the weather in that game's going to be a problem. Yeah, I'm scared of the weather is what I was about to say. So I would go Waller, Goddard, Knox.

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Mike, are you in agreement there? Yeah. I might go Knox. I might go back to Knox with the targets. What about Gerald Everett against the Colts? Gerald Everett is interesting because I think he's actually got a good path this week, but I'm afraid to say it because he's, you know, he can go out there. Because he's had a lot of good paths. Yeah, he's had a lot of good paths that he hasn't taken advantage of. Now that the weapons are back, I mean, Justin Herbert's not going to throw five touchdowns of 500 yards. Everyone in that game can't have a good game. It could go Everett's way. If you're asking Dallas Goddard or Gerald Everett, that's what I'm asking. I would, if it was my team, I would put Gerald Everett in. I would play Dallas Goddard. The Raiders are 6 and 8. They take on the 6 and 8 Pittsburgh Steelers, the Draft King Sportsbook line. Pittsburgh minus 2. The overrunner is 38. Let's get out of these 30s. My goodness. Well, then put a roof on it. The Steelers lose this game.

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Which they are favored by two. If they lose it, it will be their first losing season since 2003. That would be 18 straight seasons. It would also be the first one without Big Ben in a while. No, they had the one a few years back where it was Mason, Rudolph, and who was? Duck. Duck. Yeah, Duck Dynasty, whatever. Hodges? Duck Hodges? Something like that. Is that a human? Yeah. Yeah, he went by Duck. This is the Christmas Eve evening gate. Technically both teams are still alive in the playoffs. It will be cold. It will be run focused, I think. Naji Harris. What a season he's had. Zero games with 12 fantasy points through the first eight weeks. Goes on the buy. Comes back and is now the running back 10 at 13.7 fantasy points per game. And that is even with seeding some work, including a touchdown to Jalen Warren last week.

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You know, Najee and Jacobs, I think you can confidently put them in. Agreed. You know, you saw what Ramandre did with a bum ankle last week against the Raiders. He had the most rushing yards of his season. Yeah, the Raiders on the season adjusted for schedule are the literal worst against running back. So Najee is a good play this week, and Jacobs is a great play no matter what every week. Devante Adams, you just have to hope it gets back to normal for him. He's been dominant the whole season. So you play him, and we just talked about Darren Waller,

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quite a bit. He played 49% of snaps, had the touchdown. You know, you're looking at this with an implied point total of 18. I think he's a risky play, but he's probably one you're going to have out there in most situations. He's probably safer than the Muth. Tassum Hill or Darren Waller? That's what a lot of people have. You know, if you drafted Waller, you've literally spent the whole year trying to find a better option at Tide-in. So the Waller managers have a hard time because they actually have secured and found that other option. Yeah, I mean, obviously in PPR leagues, it's a little bit better for Waller on the Waller Taysom Hill, because you know he's going to have a few receptions. But man, he just hasn't had much outside of week two where he had six receptions, obviously missed a bunch of the year. But he's been, when he's been out there on the field, three receptions, three receptions, three receptions, three receptions. It's not a high volume play, but he has an option at a tight end. I think I would, I lean towards the Tassum side this week. I think he's going to get eight to ten carries.

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and has just a good a chance of one of those being for a touchdown. Both to me are fine starts this week, though. I feel like we have a lot of tight end talk going on with all these tough decisions and the muth on the other side. He just goofed you, which you don't want to be goofed. No, it feels bad. It goofed me right out of the playoff. Yeah. So I don't know if you're willing to get goofed again. But it's just how far down the barrel you're going to go. You know, the matchup, it's okay against the Raiders. Deonti Johnson's been pinged up. You could look at that and say, well, he's supposed to play, but, you know, what if he's not 100%? George Pickens is low volume. So, you know, the Muth could bounce back and maybe it's kind of like the Zay Jones situation in reverse where you play the situation, you follow the process, and you hope you get a better result. It was Mitchell Trubisky.

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last week. So you had a pretty big variable come in through there where the weeks before that, I mean, not pretty, but three for 33, he scored the touchdown on the slant route. Before that, it was three for 76, three for 39. And this was, you know, kind of during the injury time where he's been dealing with that foot problem. It's, if you made it through with the zero, it is very... difficult to put an injured player back out there. I believe that Pat Fryermuth has an okay game. This isn't, I mean, Pat Fryermuth isn't one of these guys all season. It's like you absolutely have to start. He's so dominant. There's really only, you know, Kelsey. So you've got questions every week. But the practice report this week, full participant Tuesday, full participant Wednesday, full participant Thursday. So he's been out on the field. Now they get pick it back. I guess that does help.

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He didn't have an injury designation. Yeah. Last week. I know he missed multiple days, but then they said he's good to go. The fact that you're getting in full practices, maybe it's a little, maybe it's okay. Chibisky's gone. You know, to me, he is a low-end, tight-end starter. Greg Dulcich. I would go. Yeah, meuse. Okay. Christmas football.com time. We got Christmas games. Three of them. Green Bay, six and eight, taking on the. 8 and 6 Miami Dolphins. Miami are the 3.5 point home favorites. The overrunners 50 over on draft kings. I love that. I want to see 50. 26.8 points versus 23.3. Highest total of the week? It's the only one in the 50s and it's right there on the dot. And maybe that's because the weather is in the 50s as well. So that helps. Number one, Miami in 15 plus yard pass plays. Big play team.

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Can save your week with one or two plays over the course of the game. So Tua, I know it's been a struggle. This has been a streaky team. It's been a streaky quarterback. Win three. Lose three. Win five, lose three. This is, you just have to play your studs in this one, and that means Tyreek and Jalen Waddle are in there. Yeah. The matchup is great. You know, Green Bay has been a pretty rough defense over the course of the year and much more in the last six weeks. Rahim Mostert. This is where the questions are. I am feeling more confidence in Rahim Mostert because we found out that that was a veteran's rest day. And so. And Jeff Wilson limited Wednesday and Thursday with his hip issue. No, they said he was close to playing last week against Buffalo, but. He's not going to be close to playing on my fantasy team. Jeff Wilson? Jeff Wilson. Okay. But Moster, you're starting with confidence? Moster, I'm starting with optimism.

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Nice. I like that. There's a difference there. No, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, but Wilson was, you know, with these two guys being healthy the way it was training, Wilson would have been the one you were more confident in. But right now, Mostard had a huge game. I mean, he's been, there's been some chunk plays from Rahim Moster. It's a 26 ranked run defense, 29th over the last six weeks. I think you have to play him. And in the Veterans Day, instead of it being an injury is key. Yeah, I mean, if you're looking at, Rahim Moster is a perfect example of a player.

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that if you've been using Brian Robinson that level of a player, I would put Rahim Moster in over and above. And it is nice to see. I don't know when this started happening. I feel like teams have always had to just list the practice report. It's like, oh, it's a foot. Everything is being listed as, you know, complete on the actual injury report, no injury. So I like that. Yeah, me too. Eight a carry for Moster last week against Buffalo. Let me paint the Aaron Rogers picture for you before you discuss, right? Here's the pros of Aaron Rogers this week. High total game, right? The highest of the week. No weather issues. Miami's secondary ranks in the bottom seven of almost every past defense metric. Miami has, they've seen the third most past attempts against them. Here are the cons. Aaron Rogers has failed to score 20 fantasy points in any game this year. Oh, man. Only one three touchdown game on the season.

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His two best finishes. Let's call them his ceiling. Quarterback 10 and quarterback 12. Now, you could get the best game of the year here. Yeah, you could. If you want to make another, you want to put another one in the pros category. Dobbs, Watson, Cobb, all healthy, all playing. I think this, is this the first second game where he's had that? Yeah, well, Dobbs was like questionable. We weren't sure. He played very limited snaps. Like, if they actually all play. a full allotment of snaps. I think that will be the first of the year. I think the nice thing about this game is that we expect the Miami Dolphins. Vegas expects the Miami Dolphins to score.

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They have 26.8 implied points. You've got Tyree Kill and Jalen Waddle. So should they go out and put up 24, 25, 30 points against the Packers, and the Packers are forced into the situation where they've got to throw the ball, they've got to catch up, they've got to go try to win this game. They actually have the weapons to do it. And I don't think the Dolphins defense is good enough to stop all the weapons with this version of Aaron Rogers. So to me, Aaron Rogers... Currently, my quarterback 12, he's like the last. He is the last of the starters. I'm not going to play him over, you know. What about Derek Carr against Pittsburgh or Aaron Rogers? I would play Aaron Rogers. What about, oh my gosh, Rogers. It's been so bad. Aaron Rogers, when you pull his profile up, it doesn't look like you're looking at a quarterback. I'm serious. It looks like you're looking at a middling running back. Okay. Against another quarterback who's been disappointing. Tom Brady, who gets the Arizona Cardinals on the road. I have Brady ahead of Rogers. Okay.

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Gardner. I have Rogers ahead of Gardner. Yeah, that's how I would do it. Oh, man. Maybe Aaron Rogers isn't capable anymore. Maybe. It is possible. And then so at the wide receivers for Green Bay specifically, like, how are you managing that where the, like, Romeo Dobbs was the leader last week. Basically, because none of them really did anything. They were all very close. No scores, though, right? I believe that's, yeah, I believe so. I think Aaron Jones got the touchdowns and AJ Dillon. But Watson was close to a touchdown. Lazard was close to a huge play. So it's not like the opportunities aren't there. They're just not hitting on them. So are you playing any of those wide receivers this week? Watson. Yeah, Christian Watson is the only wide receiver I'm playing. The reason is because you don't.

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really know for sure where the targets are going to go. So I'm going to take the I'm going to take the explosive athleticism, the guy that can take a screen to the house, the guy that can just be taller and bigger and stronger when you're near the goal line. Go out there and be taller. Yeah, taller than the other people. So yeah, Christian Watson is, I think he's a good play because obviously we know he's a touchdown machine. He had the highest target share of the. Packers last week. Yeah, this isn't Rogers where you knew three touchdowns was always coming and then you distribute them. This is like Rogers where one touchdown is coming. You hope you get the right one. Big Mike against Indianapolis, my start of the week or Christian Watson, Jason. Mike Williams. I like him a lot this week. Pity City or Christian Watson. That's a real, that's exactly where I see them. I'm going to go.

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I honestly, I hope this isn't a cop out. If I need a big game, I'm putting Christian Watson in. If I am the favor, I think the floor is higher with Michael Pittman. Either way, I'd go Watson. Slayton, start of the week at Minnesota or Watson. Watson. Yeah. What about Zay Jones? Oh, man. All right. Well, uh, I think we covered this one. Aaron Jones. I mean, come on. Play Aaron Jones. Tyree Kiljell. I guess are you playing AJ Dillon? Over Brian Robinson. Yeah. Yeah. I think I think he's in play. Give me some players from a high over under game this week. I need them to balance out some things. AJ Dillon's been an RB one three straight weeks. Yeah. You hear that? Dude. You hear that folks? I didn't I didn't realize he had a run. He's on fire. NBA Jam rules. Say you play him. Yeah. Yeah.

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All those people that drafted him are thrilled. You mean all the people that picked them up? That's out of the waiver wire? None of the people that drafted him have A.J. Dillon right now. That is correct. It's all a good experience. Denver, four in ten, take on the four and ten Rams. Russell, Baker. I mean, this is not the Christmas present you wanted. However, it's the one we all deserve. 4.30 Eastern. I should be right in the middle of a meal around this game. So maybe I can miss some of it. They're both eliminated. They both don't have their first round picks. Oh, man. This is, I mean, you tank, you can't tank because you tank for the other team you traded your pick to. I actually do love that. I love that these teams want to win to make someone else's pick worse. I mean, are we down to the point now with, I mean, do you play anyone on the ramps? Because you've lost Ben Skironi.

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This is an amazing Broncos defense. I don't want to play any of them, including Cam Acres. I was going to say Cam Acres is like he's worked himself back into contention with he's been a top 24 guy the last three weeks. He had the boom week against Seattle with the multiple touchdowns. A fringe top 24 guy the past couple weeks because he's getting decent enough opportunity. But that decent enough opportunity was against the Raiders and the Packers. and Seattle. And now it's against Denver, so I think I'm out. Do you play Brian Robinson, Jason, who you're worried about over Cam Acres? I do play Brian Robinson over Cam Acres. I think that you've got a higher, even though the matchup is more difficult, I think that the Washington commanders will score more points, more goal line opportunities. This game has an over under of 36 and a half. Draft Kings has the line, Denver minus three. Latavius Murray.

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He didn't practice on Thursday. So that is a precautionary sit, but was 24 for 130 and 1. The matchup is great. Yeah, if he's in, I'm playing him. I think he'll just get just a crap ton of volume. And if for some reason... That's what you want. Give me that crap ton. And he's fully expected to play from everything that I've seen. If for some reason he's a surprise inactive, then scoop up Marlon Mac and play him because the volume will be there. I agree. And welcome to the playoffs. Marlon Mac, semi-week. Yeah, I mean, but Greg D, I wouldn't risk it. No. Jerry, Judy, I would be willing to play this week. Oh, you're not playing Dulcich? I'm not playing Dulcuits, no. The variability in the low over-under concerns me. I just think you're high risk here.

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Do you disagree? High risk, high reward. I mean, you've got a guy obviously that we've seen several times have a long reception of 38 yards, 39 yards, 30 yards. So you can get a chunk play from Greg Dulcich, which, you know, not most items you can't get that. So I think it's high risk, high reward. Chance at one, chance at 10. That's kind of what you're looking at with Greg D. And I think there's probably better options. I would agree with that. Most of the, every league I'm in. that I'm still in the playoffs. When I look at just my rankings, there are enough other tight ends that I prefer over Greg Dulcich, where I'm not playing him this week. Everett? Yeah, Everett, I would prefer over. What about Trey McBride? No. No. With, no, you didn't like what you saw last week? No. No. It was a big improvement for Trey McBride last week and Hollywood's out, so I brought his name up. Yeah, it's a matter of his best game of his career. Sure. To me, it's, I think he had four catches. It's very difficult. He's playing every snap. It's just looking at it.

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With the quarterback situation in Arizona. If you're not DeAndre Hopkins, I'm not playing. He hit a Sammy Hagar. He, you know, a couple of rook. I brought him up because there's a couple of rookies. And you're looking at, yeah, he was four for 55, 86% of snaps. And if Hollywood's out, you can hit it. You can hit it. It's Christmas. Didn't want to interrupt, you know. Yeah, no, I love that that's happening and that you see. flashes because I really like Drey McBride going forward, but I'm not relying on McSorley. Yeah, that's fine. You're relying on, you do realize you're relying on Russell Wilson though, right? Well, so here, Russell Wilson is actually a question and it's a question that I'm going to answer with a no. Is that some Purr-Hapley action right there? That was amazing. Wait, you got to do it with the cadence and everything. Russell Wilson is the question.

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And that question I'm going to answer right now. So I would not. I would not fault. I would not fault someone for having just stones I don't have. Yeah. And saying Russell Wilson last we saw him had a monster game, three passing touchdowns, 57 rushing yards looked good and the matchup is great. If you can do it. I don't blame you and I could see a path where he ends up with a good game. I cannot do it. I will not be able to trust Russell Wilson. But if you can see the path, then can't you see the path for the D? Well, sure. I mean, that's why I said high risk, high reward with the D. Always. Always. Listen, we're talking Tampa Bay, 6 and 8, the Cardinals, 4 and 10. The aforementioned Trey McBride and Company. Trace McSorley, getting his first start of his career.

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I have kind of a hot take on Trace McSorley. Oh, let's hear it. Oh, don't do it. I guarantee he scores more than 20 fantasy points in this game. Okay. That's my hot take. That isn't a hot take. That is a nuclear. He better be in your draft king's lineup. I would imagine he is so cheap. If you get 20 fantasy points from Trace McSorley. Yeah, I think it will be a little bit better than people expect. I don't know, I don't expect. 20 points would be a lot better than people expect. Tampa Bay is favored by 7.5. The game's in Arizona. The overrunners 40s 40. This is what we get to enjoy on Christmas night. Trace McSorley played 46% of the snaps last week. Did he score one fantasy point? He scored 0.6 fantasy point. Well, this is probably a wrong bet, a bad bet. Yeah, I wouldn't. But I think the game plan will involve his legs. And I think because of that,

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You know, I don't know how many fancy points Chris Treveller scored last night in half of a game, but I think that there's going to be some opportunities. The Andre Hopkins will get targeted a lot and just being the kind of quarterback, which is a bad pass or good runner. I'm just expecting a surprise there. Look, the good news for- That's what a surprise is. You don't expect it. Sure. No, that's- But now I do, and it's not a surprise anymore. That's a lot of fire. which I yeah look I mean this is the season where there's a lot of coal around sure and so trace McSorley seems like coal in your stocking maybe are you going to warm that up have a hot fire the thing that's going to help that is that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers they're just a bad team don't analyze it Mike their defense barbecue joke their defense is not good they're 25th on the season against fantasy quarterback so

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