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Week 11 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Booger in the Paint

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Week 11 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Booger in the Paint

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Trey Kwan Smith 10 for 157 in a touchdown. Thirteen targets. And there was a tweet that Treyquan put out there or a comment he made. He said after the play he caught the touchdown on, Drew Brees came out to him and said, why do you think I threw you the ball? I trust you. And he said, as a rookie, it made me.

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So happy and that would feel good, man. So I would feel real good. We're going to talk about both Treyquan Smith and DJ Moore momentarily. DJ Moore was 7 for 157 and a touchdown. And rest of season, though, I'll ping you right now. Treyquan, DJ Moore. Oh, baby Josh has chimed in. He says Yahoo still hasn't given Mike Evans the rushing touchdown. So we'll see. Yeah, I think ESPN has.

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Traiquan or DJ Moore rest of the season you have to pick right now? I would go. DJ Moore. Just because of the schedule. Well, the schedule is really nice. Yeah, you are correct. The schedule of the Saints is very nice. But schedule plus the opportunity of actually becoming the one, the number one wide receiver option.

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I guess being the number two option for Drew Breases. Yeah, it's probably equal to be number one for Cam Newton. Uh, Stefan Dix 13 for one. Oh, that's stinky, stinky garbage drive. Uh, I guess I should probably. Yes, you should. That goes for. I go of Kirk Cousins as well. I mean, they were going in a two deep safety defense prevent basically.

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protect against the big play. And Stefan Diggs ate them up underneath 18 targets, 13 catches, 126 and 1. All of it pretty much in the last quarter. There was a drive as the Vikings were trying to come back. And Stefan Diggs caught three or four passes in a row. I can't recall. He had to go off the field.

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and get a breather because he was catching so many passes in a row. Yeah. It was amazing. My favorite part of his touchdown was when he pointed, did you see this? When he did the en route, you go back and watch the video. He pointed down into the left to ask for the ball in a specific location before the throw. Ooh, I did not see that. You know, you see the Randy Moss old clips of him throwing the hand up or somebody putting the hand up. He literally just pointed like down to the left. He's like, I want it right here. And then he got it right there.

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Nice. It's like what I do in the post. What, like basketball reference? What do we do? In basketball, I'll be like, you know, point down. I want to bounce pass. Give me an entry. No round ball sports allowed, Jason. All right. Fine. Football only. Defonte Adams, Kenny G. Julio Touchdown Jones. Antonio Jones. Antonio Brown. Keenan Allen. Kyle put that in there. Yeah. Oh, that's his new nickname. I love it. Yeah. Touchdown Jones. Three straight.

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Three weeks in a row. A lot of averages, man. He's too good. Yeah. But Kenny G. If Marvin Jones is out for an extended period of time, which could happen. He was getting a second opinion on his knee. We don't know. He obviously missed this week. But Kenny G. Yeah. He's too big. He kind of reminds me of, well, he reminds me of a lot of different players, but Brandon Marshall, when he was at his peak, he was too big.

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to stop the targets from coming. And that's what Kenny Goliday is like. He's too big. Like, if you have a small guy, like, I'll give the example of, like, Brandon Cooks when he was in New Orleans. And you had injuries on the other side of the field, and you look at Brandon Cooks, like, man, he's going to soak up targets. If you pressed Brandon Cooks or you rotated coverage, he wasn't too big. You know, he wasn't...

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Very big. Kenny Galladay had 14 targets, made play after play. You look at the touchdown he grabbed. There's no defense that can stop that. You throw the ball 12 feet in the air, and he goes up and grabs it. It's just you can't do anything. Yeah, that's great. Brooks did request that we honor him. Because Kenny G. So, so smooth. Larry Fitzgerald. He only caught two passes, Jason. That's right, but they were both in the paint.

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He had a great... Oh, my gosh. What? Dropping another... Is that another basketball reference? Yeah, man. What's going on? No, you can call it. You could... Nobody calls the end zone the paint. Nobody. Yes. No, no, no. The paint is inside the key. I do. I do. That sounds like something that they would say on the Monday night football crew. Yeah. Don't you put that evil on me? Hey, booger. Hey, booger. Is that Jason Whitten? Great analysis. Jason Booger Moore. Jason Bladehands Whitten.

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Wait, is that what he does? Oh, every single time the camera goes to Jason Winton. He is full on Talladega Nights. I don't know what to do with my hands. But he puts them out straight. But they're always blades, always blade hands. Doing the robot. He's, he's, he is the Terminator T-1000. Who do you want to be, Bougar or Jason Blade Hands Witten? I would still rather be Jason. I'd rather be Bougar. I want to ride, man.

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Oh, I'm not getting on that thing. I am. Don't you love it when Showtime Mahomes throws it in the paint? Showtime. Dude, I want the Bougar mobile. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, Larry Fitzgerald, two touchdowns. Had a great week of you started. Here, let's talk about tight-ins for 30 seconds. This is the worst tight-ins scoring week of the year. Three of the top seven tight-ins in week 11 were not started in over 99% of leagues. That would be Antonio Gates, Robert Tonian Harding, and Ed.

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Dickson. Oh, Red Dead. This was atrocious. If you didn't, I mean, and who's starting Jordan Reed anyway? Well, that's a funny thing. He was 7 for 71 and a touchdown on 11 targets. He also caused a brutal interception. So, like, my start of the week was Jack Doyle. Got off to a strong start four for 43 in like the first quarter, finished with 4 for 43. Terrible game. Except he was pretty much one of your top 10 startable options at tight end. He ended up at 13.

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13 with several players ahead of them that you've never heard of. Oh, you mean FERC-ster? Oh, well, I know you've heard of FERC-Serks. And then there was Lingle. Oh, Lingle's so good. Tonian, Langel, Dixon, Olson. I hate when I langle my furkster. You do not want to lango your furrow. No, you do not. But apparently you want to, I mean, Antonio Gates is the number one titant. That should tell you every, and it's 2018. Yeah, and he's 2018 pounds.

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Right now. Oh, boo. I know. It was too much. But it was that man an apology. I'm sorry. You realize he went five for 80 in a score. I do. He's doing work. I do realize that. He's doing work. O.J. Howard had a had a great game. But if you are not aware at the end of the game, at the end of the game, he came down with what looked like it could have been, you know, an Alex Smith type injury. He got away with.

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An ankle sprain, pro football doc expects it to be a high ankle sprain, which means O.J. Howard might be missing time. Oh, that's a problem. Be aware of that. Is that Cameron, Brayt time? Oh, it could be. Cameron Brayette would be a great pickup if O.J. Howard is gone. Do you think Gates is that pushing 300? Why are we still doing this? I think he's close, yes. I'm just curious if that's about where he's at. I think he's fine. I mean, we can tie this into basketball. He's running like a. He's the Shaquille O'Neal of the tight-in position. Hey.

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Nothing wrong with that. Fine. I mean, he's a basketball player. I've always said, and I will continue to say forever, at tight end, I want the Yao Ming. I want the seven-footer that just walks out five yards, you throw him the tall ball and he falls over. I still think that could work. Infinite points. You can't stop it. Well, you're better off lining that guy outside, because then you get the DB. I mean, there's like a two-foot difference. Yeah.

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That's true. Legitimately. This is why we should be the head coach of the Cleveland Browns. We can do it as a three-pack. If Connoisse can do it. Hey, look, I actually saw, and I know that was some fire news from Adam Schefter's timeline on Sunday morning, but I did see some verified sources of actual reports. Speaking of how much she knows about football.

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I mean, it can't just have come out of nowhere. Right. For Adam Sheffield to talk about it. She'd probably bring in Rumsfeld for offensive coordinator. I believe. I believe she was. No, that would be defensive coordinator for sure. Oh, hell. Wow. Boo. Come on. Boo. It was like there, Randy. I know. She was offensive, though. I did like her comment, though, that said she would never call a prevent defense. Yeah. Good for you. Darn right. She'd peer up with Sean Payton.

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Let's get into the Rising Stars. Rising Stars of the Week. All right. If two players have the exact same stat line, you're allowed to double up. That's the rule. Only if they're in the same year of their NFL career. They're both rookies. And they both had 157 yards receiving. And they both had one touchdown. And their names are DJ Moore and Trey Kwan Smith. Yeah.

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Both my rising stars this week. This is what you see, too, from rookies. They earn trust. And you brought that comment up from Drew Brees. Trey Kwan's getting the trust. And when you have that many targets, my goodness, there's a trust level growing between Trey Kwan. He made some big time catches. The Red Zone touchdown. DJ Moore made a big time catch, becoming the favorite target of Cam Newton. And, you know, if you look at Pro Football Focus talks about this. They've done the metrics. Rookie wide receivers.

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They tend to be about 20% more productive in the second half of a season. Both of these guys are supremely talented. Both of these guys play on offenses that are capable. This is a great time. And I brought up last week. I was like, man, if you could steal DJ Moore in a Dynasty League, last week was the time to do it. Same with Treyquan. Yeah, when Christian Kirk had a monster game as well. So Anthony Miller scored too. The rookies are coming out. It's just something for you to write down in your little notebook.

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And just remind yourself, you don't need to draft these rookie wide receivers. Not everyone. It's very, very rare you get an Odell Beckham who comes in day one and is an absolute beast. Ironically, he didn't. He started his career injured and you got him up for Waivers week four. But yes, I know what you're saying. His first game in, it was like, holy crap, Beckham. But just remember that. Don't waste your draft picks on the rookie wide receivers. It's weights. It's super tempting. And I saw it in every draft.

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Trey Kwan Smith. Oh, we all get the rookie keeper. I'm guilty. They're all like the last pick of the draft because you're like, oh man, this is a great stash. But the second week one ends, you're dropping them because they don't do anything. And you can't afford to wait. What is it? Week 11? You can't wait 11 weeks for DJ Moore. You got to pick them up like two weeks ago. But now's the time. I mean, this is the time where waiver wire ad guys like these two wide receivers and my start of the week are going to.

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help you win championships, my or rising star of the week. My rising star is the aforementioned Gus Edwards. Gus Edwards took my Alex Collins and it's like, oh, this is a great matchup. You're at home. If Lamar Jackson's playing, they're going to run the ball a lot. All of that was true, except it was all Gus Edwards. If you look and you go, who? Who's Gus Edwards? Gus Edwards is a player who was not with.

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this team in the beginning. He didn't get his first action until week six. And this last week, 17 carries for 115 yards and a touchdown plus a two point conversion. This happened to coincide with, you know, his breakout happened to coincide with Lamar Jackson being on the field. I don't think that that is a coincidence. And if you listen to what John Harbaugh was saying about.

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how his skill pairs perfect with Lamar Jackson. He says Gus was in north and south. He's a physical guy. He's been practicing really well. When those young guys start practicing well for weeks after weeks, we want to get them out there. He did great on special teams. There's 630,000 reasons why this was coming. We talked about it in the offseason. That's how much money that Alex Collins is making this season.

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The loyalty built into his contract meant that he could be supplanted at any time for any reason whatsoever. And I'm not saying he's irrelevant. But this is why you couldn't trust a season of guaranteed volume from Alice Collins is because this team is more loyal.

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to production than the money invested in the position. Yeah, I mean, this was what Alex Collins did last year when he broke out late and then got the work. And this is what Harbaugh finished. He said, to give us that type of back is very important. He gives us that back. We probably didn't have earlier in the year. Oh, what? But here's the problem. Good body, Collins. And I don't mind you making him a rising star because he deserves it. He'll be on the waiver show tomorrow.

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