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Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Week 17 Fantasy Forecast, Sits of the Week, Playoff News

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Come on. We don't have a lot of analysis to do next week. You know why I'll watch this one is if all those 11 other things look like they're about to happen, then maybe I'll flip over to the Titans and the Colts Mettenberger and Freeman. Slash Lindley. Slash McGee. I mean, what's his name? Okay. Let's just say this. This is how I want to cover this game. Tell me who's fantasy relevant. Name them. Frank Gore is fantasy relevant.

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For sure, I think he's going to be fine this game. He has been extremely consistent this year. He's been extremely fine. He's been, exactly. He has been extremely fine. That's the truth. You know, he's a guy that as your RB2, as a flex position. Is he Cedric Benson now? Yeah, I mean, I think he's maybe better than Cedric. He can't just be Cedric. Cedric Benson was not rattling off that 40-yard touchdown.

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that Frank Gore knocked off last week. Let me give you some numbers for Gore. Carry-wise, the last four weeks, 13, 16, 16, 15. Love it. He hadn't scored in six games, but then he got two touchdowns last game, which is great, had a great game. Hasn't been in triple digits ever this year. No games with 100 yards rushing before this week, 34, 24, 24, 45, 60, 44.

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And Tennessee's defense is seventh against running backs. I don't like Frank Gore very much this week. I don't think the – what do you do? If you're the Titans, you stop the run and you let one of these miscellaneous quarterbacks throw the ball into the air. I think Frank Gore has a double-digit fantasy day on those games where people stop the run. We've seen them have –

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five catch games three times this year. Okay. So I'm... He does have a baseline. I'm confident with Frank Gore over the Carlos Williams, over the... You want to water bet that one? I would love to. Water bet. We needed one this week, and Carlos Williams, Frank Gore is a great bet. I like the upside of Williams more than I do Gore. So, Gore is fantasy relevant. I will not argue with you there. What about Hilton? I don't... I could not possibly... Want to start...

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Any cult pass catcher. But his name's T.Y. Hilton, Jason. Unless Andrew Luck comes on. And the truth is, one of these guys will have a decent fantasy game. Because at the end of the game, they're going to have 250 yards, probably. I don't know. 200 yards? No. 190? What was that stat line of Josh Freeman? 20. It was, yeah, it took 50. Some odd throws to get 190 yards. Last week, Hilton had four catches. Moncrief had two catches. Yeah.

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I mean, for 15 yards. So I think you stay away from the Colts. I don't think there's anybody on the other side of the ball that you want to start it other than Delaney Walker. Well, Walker, and I'm okay. I am okay this week. If you want to roll those dice on Doriel Green Beckham. He'd be the only one to roll the dice with. Correct. But the Colts passing defense 28th as far as yardage allowed. But Green Beckham hadn't.

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I know. No catches last week. I know. Zero. I know. These things can happen. That's why it's your roll in the dice. Sometimes you hit snake ice. I will avoid the dice roll on Doreale Greenbacker. Yeah, I will as well. All right. The Patriots take on the dolphins. This is not an almost upset of the week. Potential for me, the Patriots trying to lock up home field throughout the playoffs. Brady, he's in your lineup. Tana Hill.

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He's out of your lineup. I love the Patriots defense this week. I really do. I think in a division matchup, they know the Dolphins well, and I'm fine playing the Patriots defense. The dolphins have been one of the worst teams against fantasy defenses this year. Yes, they have, and I have no confidence in Lamar Miller. He's my sit of the week coming up here. Nobody I want to play on that team other than maybe Landry. Landry for the PPR. PPR value.

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So do we really know what's going on in the wide receiver core for New England right now? We do not. We don't have injury updates yet for Edelman or Amidola. We thought there's a chance Edelman would play this week due to the preparation for the playoffs. He hasn't played since week 10. If he plays, though, it's going to be very limited. And I'm not, he's not a guy I'm going to throw out in championship week. Yeah, and the same goes for, I really like Martin. I think Martin could have a very good

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You like Kishon Martin. I like Kishon Martin. In the event Edelman, Amadol Dahl or gone. Correct. But I probably couldn't get myself to start him on a championship week. So it's kind of irrelevant advice. It's wait and see, look towards the future, see if Kishon Martin can do anything. He has an opportunity this game. Kishon Martin against the Dolphins or Tyler Lockett against the Cardinals? I would probably go Kishan Martin. Martin. Okay. There you go.

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So you would. You would start him if that was your boat. There are a lot of people that were starting locket in flex positions this past week, so Martin could be flexed in that situation. What about DeMonte Parker right across the field? I would play Parker over. I would as well. Kishon Martin. What about James White? Is he a must start now? James White, I believe, is a must start if you're in any kind of PPR league. Yep. And if you're flexing between Martin and White, you flex White. Yep. All right, the Ravens head to Cincinnati to take on the Bengals.

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This is another game that the Bengals are favored by seven and a half, and I think the Ravens win the game. I can't hit the button twice, but I think the Ravens are going to win the game. You're going to have two almost upsets. Andy's almost upset of the week. McCarran is banged up. The Ravens are well coached. We saw it last week. Yes, the game's in Cincinnati, and that's why the line is where it's at. I think it'll be pretty close again. You know, Ryan Mallet, got to get on that train.

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I mean, he might miss the train. But you got to get on it. As far as his alarm clock will not go off. That is correct. You know, some of these quarterback matchups, you look at two or three times to make sure you're reading it right. Mallet McCarran. Yeah. Or it could be, I'm looking it up right now. Freeman and Mettenberger. Keith winning. Keith winning, I'm seeing from... You're saying it's the third string in Cincinnati. He is looking at a depth chart here.

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Sounds like a winner. Good luck. So what we, here's one thing that's interesting about the Bengals. We saw, they came out, we talked about this yesterday, AJ McCarran came out, looked really good in the beginning, scripted out a bunch of plays. You know who else looked good with him? AJ Green. All of AJ Green's production, I believe, happened in the first half. I don't think he caught a pass in the second half. The bulk, for sure. So how confident. Now, we didn't see him get injured.

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So AJ Green this week, you're kind of rolling them out there, aren't you? I mean, the Ravens past defense is 17th in the league against fantasy wide receivers. He got hurt on the last play of the game. McCarran did. Yeah. Right. I'm talking about AJ Green. Oh, right, right, right. So AJ Green. Yeah, you start. AJ Green is a great start in this matchup for sure. Okay. What about Kamar Aiken? Clay's brother. Neh. Yeah, I mean, brother from another mother, clearly. Sure.

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I would start him. I think he's in that conversation. You know, I would rather start Kamar Aiken than Lockett this week. He is the clear number one target on their team. Eight catches, two straight weeks. Exactly. So Kamar Aiken is a guy I'm not in love with, but I would probably start him over most of those guys we just talked about. I would definitely start him over Kishan Martin. I would start him over Lockett.

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Is there anything else at the wide receiver position you guys want to discuss about this matchup? Not really. The one that sticks out to me player-wise in this game is Jeremy Hill. The Ravens have a decent pass defense, but obviously, or rush defense, but they're not as good as the Broncos that the Bengals just faced. And we have back-to-back weeks where Jeremy Hill has gotten the ball 19 times. With McCarran in and now injured a little bit.

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This is going to be – I mean, they're not trying to mask things. They're not trying to say, you know, oh, we're going to come out and confuse them with our scheme. They're saying, I'm going to take the ball, and I'm going to try to run it right up the middle. And you stop me. And you stop me. Over under in this game is 42 and a half, and I would take the under. Put it that way. So that's a dead lens itself to Jeremy Hill getting the ball a little bit more than, you know, normal.

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Yeah, and he always has the chance to punch in a touchdown or two, depending on when guys get tackled at the one. What happened to Geo? They just, honestly. Andy Dalton. Why is it? I believe that completely. But it wasn't, it wasn't just Andy Dalton. I mean, his production has really disappeared since, let's see, since the RAM game. He had a huge game against the Cardinals. Then he had a decent game.

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against the Rams. I guess basically just one 45-yard catch was his entire production. But since then, they're just, they're not using him. He's not been effective. It's a strange situation. It is a little strange, but I think it speaks again to Jeremy Hill being the guy who's going to get a ton of rushes this week. And I like Jeremy Hill this week. I would have confidence starting him in a championship matchup. Well, that's something we have done.

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said very much this week or this year. He's got some news from, where is that from? Hold on. Bleacher report. Is it breaking news? Well, no. It just talks about what we talked about earlier about Chip Kelly possibly, you know, wanting to go to the Titans. Right. With the dolphins and the Browns interested in as well. I would love that. And I will say this. If he goes, if he goes to the Titans, I saw a ton of questions on Twitter. How high does this move Marriota?

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It's going to move Marietta. Too high is the answer. He's going to be overloved, I think. He's going to be decent, but his value, I think, will shoot up more. I think all three of those quarterbacks, Mario, Johnny Mansell, if he's still in Cleveland, and then even Ryan Tannahill, all could pull off that offense well. Tannahill runs the ball well. Obviously, we know what Mario did with Chip Kelly and Oregon. And then...

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Johnny Manzell is a quarterback that can execute that offense as well. So it'd be interesting to see him go any of those places. You know, Josh Gordon's back next year. Yeah. For Cleveland. And so you mix Manzell, Gordon, and, you know, Cleveland's right behind Jacksonville on a team that wants to be my Cinderella. Year after year. Now, I'm not projecting it next year like I was in the past with Cleveland, but I want to see those teams have some success and get back into the mix. And...

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Some of the pieces are there, some aren't, but we saw Cleveland succeed a lot with Josh Gordon. Chip Kelly going to Tennessee would be fantastic, I think. I mean, it's the situation of Mario... We've got a defense, it's okay. Well, but I'm saying the best part for me of Marriota where you think he's going to be overhyped, probably. He probably will be overhyped, but the nice part is it's not like Sam Bradford this year. He doesn't have to learn it. He played with Chip Kelly.

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And he is, he's young, and he has the tools, and we've seen, I think he's a better, more accurate pastor than what we've seen out of San Bradford this year. We saw more out of Mariotta's arm, in my opinion. Now, let's go and get into the last matchup. Before that, we need to really quickly talk about Buck Allen. Yes. Oh, I'm sorry. What do you make about Buck Allen? He's been great, high baseline, and then doesn't show up or fumbles and get.

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gets benched. You know, I had said last game that after that fumble against Kansas City, he was going to come back, have a good game against Pittsburgh. He did. He had five catches. He also had, how many carries on the ground? 18. I hate him this week. You hate him this week? Because of the Bengals only? Hate him. He's in Cincinnati. Hate him. I think he's still got a decent enough baseline. Yeah, I would still play him. That baseline, the weeks before.

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The last two was... Well, he got benched in Kansas City because he fumbled. So, yeah, and the week before against Seattle, he had a terrible game. If the potential to be fumbling and benched exists in his repertoire along with the low games, I hate is too strong a word because of the dump-off passes we saw with Mallet last week. I don't love it. Okay, I don't like the matchup. That'd be fair. I don't like to match it, but I would still play him. Over who?

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Let's go back to that Carlos Williams well. I would start Carlos Williams. I would, depending on your scoring format. But if you're in half or full, I'm going to play Buck Allen over Carlos. Yeah, I would as well. Because I think the Jets are a worse matchup here. You want a water bet Buck in our format? All right.

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Waterbed. Okay. Someone is rooting for Carlos Williams, which stinks too, because I really hope the Jets win this week. Sorry, Bill's fans. I just, I like the Jets. I like the players and the people there. I've got an affinity for Todd Bowles and I want him to make the player. What do you got against all the people that live in Buffalo and then their team? It snows there. Yeah, it doesn't snow for the Jets. Oh, I was just throwing something out. No, I love, I actually really like Buffalo Bills fans. They make great wings.

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